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I actually think he'd be a great change of pace back to Chuba and Dowdle. But they rarely give him run on the offense. Dude had one attempted punt return in college. One. And I don't think he'd returned a kickoff since his sophomore year. That's not a guy you pick in the 4th to primarily be a returner. Not when your safeties, ILB, Edge and WRs were bottom of the league and you already had a RB room predicted to be one of the best in the NFL. Just another WTF moment to me.

Like when is the Huddle (collectively) gonna acknowledge that? I want BY to succeed because he's Carolina's QB, but I am NOT a BY supporter (in a vacuum). I didn't even want them to move up for a QB in 2023. I knew the team wasn't ready for a rookie QB, and that was with DJ Moore. Roger, he played at Alabama with really good college talent. But the level of his college WRs compared to every WR this team has marched out there not named TMac is ridiculously sad! He had about 4 WRs from college that would be the #1 WR since coming to Carolina. Adam Thielen is your best option?! WTAF! And you're digging on the kid because he isn't putting up numbers? Just doesn't make sense to me. And coming into this season saying he had no excuses? That didn't age well. Not one bit.

Yeah, they still seem to have WTF moments in drafts. Brooks and Legette in 2024 were legit WTF moments, particularly with who was still on the board for both of those picks. Now granted there was only one real WTF moment in 2025 in my opinion with Etienne. But there were legit playmaking safeties and WRs still on the board and they picked a guy that would be 3rd on the depth chart at a position of strength. I would argue a LB, Safety, Edge or WR would have made more sense than Etienne. And then they don't even give him carries.

Nah, that was Moehrig out there knocking their aases out!

Great job Ice! Good to see the one play where BB3 pushed the pocket. What do you think about his play? I feel like he gives up on a lot of plays before the whistle. Are you seeing him fight through double teams?

What in the hell is Rozeboom doing there? Why didn't he just shoot the gap under the double team?!

First 2 games are fool's gold - good and bad. Games 3 and 4 give you a better picture. By the end of game 5 you should have a good idea of who you are.

Last week, the QB finished strong. Ended up with 300+ yards and 3 TDs. That wasn't good enough because it was against a "soft zone" defense, and he "failed when it mattered". This week, he made the plays he needed to and allowed the defense to dominate without taking chances. Now he didn't pass for enough yards for you. Some of you can't see how you look for the negatives. I can find negatives for every player on every team in every game. Just mindboggling to me that you're a fan of a team you don't even want to see win - unless it's on your terms. Just enjoy the win. Geez.

So the Panthers beat a division rival 30-0 and you guys are on here to show how bad Bryce Young is?! So you don't really want Carolina to win. You want them to win the way you think they should win. With who you want them to win with. Do you have any idea how goofy this ish is?

Defense dominated from like the 3rd drive. Going pass happy against a team of speed rushers would have been the only way to give them momentum and open the door to a possible comeback. This ain't a BY thing, it's a football thing. No team is ratcheting up the pass plays in yesterday's scenario - from middle school to the pros.

Hopefully XL has a BY reset when he comes back.

Gotta say, I didn't see this coming at all. Particularly not the way it happened

PTSD is a real thing sir

Fug you bro. But that was funny

Just watched ATL against Tampa Bay. They gone kill us. They're literally built to beat us where we're weakest. Damn!!!

Ok. You're right. Let's just hope every team plays Bryce in "prevent" the rest of the season. Peace out.

Just my opinion, so take it for what it's worth. I think Bryce decides who he's throwing to before the snap too often instead of reading what he sees post snap. Now alot of that is trying to influence the safety, but if the safety doesn't bite, he gets stuck and it turns into Bryce trying to make a play off schedule as the other options are gone. Cam did the same thing when Kelvin and Smitty were in the game. Bryce sees the field. He just gets a little stubborn sometimes. And that's when he gets himself into trouble. That and he doesn't trust guys to make plays on 3rd down. Instead of throwing to the open guy and letting them get the remaining 3-5 yards for the first, he'll wait until he can throw a guy to the markers. I don't think those physical limitations that keep being brought up is that real for him. Well... until he gets tackled and fumbles the ball at an alarming rate. But he has a strong enough arm, sees the field, and doesn't get injured by regular hits.

You do realize that first play was at 9:16 and they scored a TD before the 2 minute warning. 7 minutes is not a super long drive to come out with a TD. Longer developing plays is what helped get Carolina in the situation they were in. So you're suggesting they should have kept calling the same plays that weren't working? Are you suggesting Bryce keep throwing the same passes that weren't being completed? They were not in soft zone coverage. For comparison, this is Carolina's first defensive alignment in the 3rd quarter, and that's with only 1 WR on the field. Cardinals were in a normal alignment/depth to stop run or pass. Not a soft zone to give underneath passes to TEs/RBs only. The LBs would likely be closer to 10 yards deep and the DBs more like 15-20 yards in that scenario.

Agree he needs to clean up the costly turnovers. My opinion is that he's pretty good other than that. But that's kind of a big deal, so absolutely needs to minimize that stuff or he can't succeed. I don't beat up a QB because he occasionally doesn't see a guy come open. Every QB does that - occasionally.

Yes, that was the first TD pass to Renfrow in the right corner. Here's the presnap defense on the TD pass.

I don't know if they did or didn't. I do know they weren't giving up everything underneath.

Roger that. So 3rd quarter and on? No poster has framed it that way either. All I've heard was all of his yards were garbage time stats. Would it help if I showed the presnap defensive alignments starting in the 3rd quarter? Again, not trying to argue or show anyone up. Just trying to inform. For the record, this is the first offensive play in the 3rd quarter. Only 1 defender 10+ yards deep. 8 defenders are within 5 yards of the LOS. That is nobody's prevent formation, giving up everything underneath to TEs and RBs. I can do the entire drive if you want. Let me know. Here's 3rd down of that drive. Press with 7 on the LOS.

If Bryce protects the ball, we have a chance. If not, it gets ugly. Our Safeties are an absolute problem in coverage, so the offense will need to score - a lot. Our run defense is actually not that bad right now. Especially if Evero pulls Nick Scott after missing the tackle on the the first big run from Bijan. Ransom is a tackling machine. Neither seems great in coverage so at least put the strong tackler in the game.

Right! They really didn't send more than the front 4/5 the whole game. The first 2 times they did, and Carolina was passing, were BIG plays for them. Agree. I only mentioned the TD plays because they're scoring plays, and they tend to carry more weight. The main point is they were not sitting back in soft zone with everyone 20 yards back for 3+ quarters. They ran a lot of man and every completion wasn't a gimme. There were some tight window anticipation throws. He avoided pressure and made good throws - some were caught, some weren't. The bigger concern is he needs to take care of the dang ball. This isn't the Bryce we saw his rookie year or the first 2 games last year. That guy was afraid to throw the ball in a tight window or down the field.

I don't think they changed as much as you think between the INT and the final sack (immediate pressure with 4 linemen). They definitely stopped blitzing as much, if a blitz means rushing more than the front 4/5. They definitely did some exotic packages where they sent LBs/DBs and dropped linemen into coverage though. The fumble and INT were both blitzes. And yes they were successful. And yes, I agreed with Bryce not taking care of the ball. Really not many answers on those plays - just take the sack and live another play (unless you're Lamar). Which he didn't do. And no, you can't run prevent on the goal line. What's prevent defense to you? Alignment, personnel, cushion, etc.? Just curious. My reply was to the post that they sat back in some soft zone the whole game - until the end, when it mattered. That's not true. They blitzed, they disguised coverages and blitzers, they pressed, they bailed, they covered the flats, all of that. Not trying to argue. Just trying to inform. Actually they only blitzed once on the final drive, and the DB got away with a bad hold on Tremayne. Otherwise looked like it would have been a completion for a first down. The Cardinals' final drive defense looked a lot like the rest of the game. I know it's easy to get upset after a lose (I'm guilty), but Mondays are when cooler heads prevail. Right? Emotions can make us seem like we don't know what we're talking about. The Huddle isn't supposed to be that. I always saw it as a place to go discuss the Carolina Panthers with more than the casual fan, and their emotionally charged opinions. I can get that at the local grocery store, where they don't know anything about NC/SC, let alone the Panthers.