Navy_football

I think that pick will be very telling, coupled with FA moves. Are they truly trying to develop a young QB, or are they in win-now mode? A vet WR and/or TE is essential - along with a strong oline. But will they bring in a young receiving threat to grow with our new QB as well? If they draft a pass rusher or a LB in the second, I think they're more in the win-now mode.

I think Moore can easily be replaced with a better WR. He's more than a WR though, similar to Deebo Samuel. Ultimately would take 2 players to match or upgrade what he brings to the table. A pure WR to me is more if a Hopkins/Diggs. Can beat the press, great route runner, and exceptional hands. Most WRs now are just athletes, and are weak on the technical aspects of the position.

I remember having a conversation about football after church and brought up Steve Smith. Not one person even knew who he was. This was in 2007 or 2008 when he was arguably the best WR in the NFL.

You sir are correct. Got caught up in my Super Bowl rant. Forgot they didn't even make it to the Super Bowl, because that QB they gave up so much to get... was injured. They're still a strong team though and could have gone if Brock didn't get hurt.

Sir... The Eagles didn't even win with the QB they went up to get. As a matter of fact, Wentz missed the entire playoffs. That team was stacked - especially their defense. The Rams went with a proven vet they knew could get them over the hump. That team was stacked - especially their defense. The 49ers just went to the Super Bowl with Mr. Irrelevant. The very last player (not just QB) picked in the draft - as a rookie. That team was stacked - especially their defense. But the Panthers should give up a bunch of 1st and 2nd round picks to get a QB. Like no other positions matter.

Good teams that were a QB away. That is not Carolina - yet.

I honestly wouldn't mind giving up a bit to get a good young QB. Just not too excited about giving up the haul needed to get to #1. There are good QBs that won't be picked by #9. If these coaches are as good as advertised, then shouldn't need to give up so much for competent play at the position.

No you drive a car that you didn't have to take out a second mortgage to buy. Might not be a Porsche but doesn't have to be a run down crappy car.

Or they pick 3 other positions of need and become a better TEAM this year. Then another good player next year. But... they also pick a QB they didn't have to mortgage the rest of the TEAM for. Because they're such great coaches, they don't need the #1 pick to get a good QB that'll work for a really good team - see San Francisco.

then I'm sure your family would hope you weren't driving a brand new Porsche that you purchased with a home equity loan and you skimped on auto insurance

So what happens if they give up tons of draft capital to go get a QB, and he fails? Or he gets injured? Or a key position (to help him develop) gets injured? Plus as of right now, you'd be bringing a young QB to a team without a strong receiving corp (who's the #2 or the slot?), TE group (Tremble and Thomas are not legit receiving threats), and questions at the RB position (are they going to overpay Foreman or just roll with Hubbard). What about o-line depth?

This would be foolish in my opinion. This team needs a lot. They are NOT a QB away. This draft would allow the team to easily come away with upgraded starters at (at least) 3 of the following: WR, TE, LB or Edge. If a QB you love falls to you at #9, then take him. Play the hand you're dealt. And another thing... y'all killing me with this "next year's first is only worth a second" crap. This team literally tried to trade Cam Newton for Jimmy Clausen in 2010. You don't trade away first rounders unless your team is set. Otherwise you could be trading a top 10 pick next year.

That would be me sir. .... That would be me.

He!! at this rate, they might pull Ozzie Newsome on to the team.

Walked right into that one

I hear you, but... Rhule was a hot name for many pundits. He failed miserably because he wasn't qualified and didn't bring in the staff to help lift him in his deficiencies. But Rhule wasn't a "head scratcher-destined to fail" hire. He was highly sought after. Tepper's willingness to think outside the box and open his checkbook gave me hope. That's all I really look for in an owner. Be willing to pay guys that know what they're doing to run the team. New owner figuring out how to get the right guys in place. The previous owner would never!

I think they're the most likely options. If either is signed then a QB will definitely be drafted this season.

If he's still on the board after the 4th pick, you go get him.

I'd be ok with an athletic Drew Brees

I voted to get Carr and draft BPA. I want to draft BPA and get a vet QB - doesn't have to be Carr.

I see what you did there.

I agree. But that's what any team would offer, right? Unless some team with multiple firsts this year wanted to move up. Not sure about that, but generally speaking teams offer future first and second round picks. The Panthers would have had a ton of them.

Any 1sts the team could offer would be this year's and then future ones. We could have given up the 9th pick, our second, the Ram's second, and the Ram's first next season. And still would have had a second this year, and a first next year, and 2 firsts in 2024. Along with our franchise QB (we'd hope).

So 4 firsts and a second?! Being sarcastic... Burns was never worth what the Rams were willing to give up for him. But those 2 firsts and a second would've made it possible to move up and still have significant draft capital left over. The team drastically overvalued their guy.

Who was the last team that won a Super Bowl with a QB they gave up multiple 1sts plus more picks to draft?