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Could have used one of those 1st rounders unstead of trading DJ Moore to the Bears. DJ Moore would be infinitely more important to this team than Burns right now. And then could have used that 2nd rounder on an Edge, TE or IOL instead of trying to replace DJ Moore with Mingo.

Just to be clear, did he show adequate arm strength? Has he dispelled the noodle arm title or no?

Admittedly didn't watch every play. Did BY answer the arm strength questions today or are we sure he still doesn't have an NFL arm?

I really think he needs to get more targets in the passing game. Really think he'd be the best deep threat on the team. And YAC. Potentially making him the best receiver on the team.

No one knows what this young man will turn into as a pro. But wow, he's supposed to complete every pass? Has a QB ever gone 35 for 35?

Are people complaining about Bryce today? Really? Y'all are liars. You said you were rooting for him to turn the corner. You said you'd be happy if he showed anything to give you hope that he could lead the offense and be our franchise QB. Now you're finding every reason to minimize his best performance. Ridiculous...

I know hindsight is 20/20 or 50/50 or something like that, but not trading Burns last year cost the Panthers the #1 pick in the 2024 draft. That's enough by itself. But earning the #1 pick with his roster and then losing it for a situational pass rusher...

I don't know. He made some plays Sunday, but getting sealed by a WR for a TD is almost unforgivable for a DE.

Not that anyone really cares, but here's my take... Bryce is leaving a LOT of plays on the field. No doubt. Guys are open now that Zavala and whoever the other Guard was, are out of the game. Now he's hesitating due to a lack of confidence. He's forcing throws when other guys are open. He's lost his swag. That's tough for a QB. Confidence and trust are everything. That doesn't mean you should cheer for him to fail. Like it or not, he'll be the starting QB for Carolina until at least the first half of next season. At LEAST. If he doesn't get better then we have to watch a crap show offense every week. Just feels like some would rather be right about him being the wrong pick, than watching the team have success. It's ok to say he made a good play when he makes a good play. Just like it's ok to say he screwed up when he does. No need to spin everything to fit your negative objective. I didn't want a QB in the draft. Honestly didn't think any of them were worth a top 10 pick let alone what we gave up to get to #1. I still don't. But now that he's a Panther, Bryce is our guy - at least for now. Maybe I'm just hopelessly loyal. But I don't think it's a bad thing to want your guy to have success, even when he's playing his worst. I can acknowledge the guy's mistakes, but some of these takes are ridiculous. Bordering on blind hate. I come here to have meaning conversations about the team and what's going on behind the scenes - that the general public may not know or report. Hard to come in here when every post is a bashing of the same player - over and over and over and over... again.

I love Devito's fire. Not sure he can last an entire season with that style of play, but for now it's fun to watch.

To the OP's point and thread title, many of these points are absurd. This is eerily familiar to the Cam hate in the past. I don't know. Just weird.

Honestly don't think Stroud would fair much better here than Bryce Young. Maybe he'd have better accuracy on the deep balls, but with these receivers it is not a guarantee. He has struggled mightily since Tank went down and he has much better pass protection.

Not sure Dalton could last the rest of the season. He took a lot of hits against Seattle. Same WR drops as always in that game. But he was much better at getting the ball to the right read and buying himself time. He would be an upgrade over Bryce, but what's the point? We can evaluate the rest of the team with Bryce in the game. Does Bryce give the Panthers the best chance to win? - not right now.

I'm not saying Bryce shouldn't have made that completion. He should have. 100%. But I've seen every QB in the NFL miss that throw - too deep and too short. A lot of them were even more open. Saw Stroud do it a couple of weeks ago. So he missed it once - granted that may be the first time he's attemtped it all season. At least he's looking for it now. He wasn't even looking in that direction a week ago. Who else has caught a deep pass in the middle of the field like that on this team - including the Dalton game? I can't remember one. I remember a couple of sideline throws to Chark, but that's it. Honestly think playcalling has been a big problem this season. Oh and Mingo is getting better against the press. I think he'll be ok.

Now this is a fair assessment. I hate when folk just say Bryce sucks, he's not athletic, he has a weak arm - with nothing other than their opinion to justify it. Even though he's a very good running QB, overthrows WRs and has passes bounce off WRs hands and facemasks all the time. That doesn't scream weak arm talent. Now deep outs are another story. It's concerning and I've noticed it too. I've also noticed that we don't run alot of those routes so it's difficult to tell if it's scheme or QB. Don't remember a true 15yard out even with Dalton out there so there's a possibility for both. Those deep outs also require a WR that can get out of their break without a bunch of steps to collect themselves (and not fade away from the ball). Honestly, don't think that guy is on the roster. Maybe Marsette? But agree, I'd love to see Bryce dig in and fire a deep out. Just to put the defense on notice. I think him trying deep passes is promising and hopefully he starts hitting them. But those misses aren't an arm strength problem. They're more a timing issue. That deep out is very telling. Big boy throw.

agree with all. Chinn is playing out of position. he needs to put on 10-15 pounds and move up to the LB position. I could definitely see him playing more in a Luvu role rather than asking him to cover slots and TEs every play. Those two and a real thumper in the middle would be my wish for the defense. Team could scheme around the lack of a true Edge rusher with that combo. Would rather have a true edge setter at DE.

I need a woman like that in my life so I can get my ish together!

So what's your point big dog? Does he or does he not catch the friggin ball and basically/literally fall down? It happens a lot. Why? Because he gets the most targets. I didn't say he was the problem for the offense. I said he needs to be able to create some kind of YAC. And if he's the best we have, as you're seemingly implying, then that's a big reason why this offense is so bad.

He gets the most targets. He gets the most catches. He gets the most plays dialed up to get him the ball in the passing game. He's not making big plays with all those opportunities. Why can't he be held accountable like everyone else? Not expecting him to run away from 22 years old CBs. Just don't fall down when he catches the ball.

LG, so you're saying I shouldn't expect a wide receiver to run with the ball after he catches it? The situation doesn't matter. Catch the ball then try to score with it.

I'm not making excuses for Bryce. I'm just saying the #1 receiver on the team needs to stop catching the ball and falling down. Plenty of opportunities for YAC but it ain't happening.

Agree. Plays are there to be made by both and they're both falling short.

You're mostly right. Receivers really are garbage. Like worst in the league bad.

Bryce did himself no friggin favors today. He didn't look good passing, but that mofo is elusive when he runs. Again put a top LB in the NFL in the matrix. And if Theilen don't stop diving and falling for passes that hit him in the hands... jeez be a receiver!

Nah he needs an entire off-season to get this stench off his jersey.