Navy_football

I really think Bryce has been given so much time due to what they've put around him. In a vacuum, he hasn't been good enough. But I think we tend to be overly judgemental with him because he's our QB. Every fan base does it. You see every mistake, not just the highlights/lowlights. I've listened to Cowboys fans crap on Dak and Ravens fans crap on Lamar. How many WRs from Bryce's rookie season are still making plays today? Probably a few starting olinemen from that year are out of the league too. Hell even his HC is out of the NFL and his OC is a TE coach right now. How many WRs from last season, Bryce's second year (other than the rookies) are making plays in the NFL today? And now in his third year, he's been passing to rookies and second year players. And the only one that was highly touted was TMac. Heck Coker wasn't even drafted, and he's easily been the second best receiver on the team. And let's not even get started on how bad the defense has been. When a team is constantly playing from behind, and/or being ran off the field (time of possession), it greatly impacts the offense's chemistry and playcalling. Look at the young QBs that are playing well right now. All of those teams have great defenses. Houston, Denver, Patriots, Cleveland, even the Saints defense has been on a bit of a tear recently. I agree he needs to be more consistent. But to be fair, so does his supporting cast. He had some horrible fumbles early in the season. I beat him up over that just like everyone else. But we wouldn't have said that if it was Stafford. We would have rightly blamed it on the oline for allowing jail breaks when they weren't even outnumbered on blitzes, and to top it off he was throwing to a bunch of young receivers. He killed teams for blitzing him the end of last season. I don't think he forgot what to do. I think his receivers didn't know what to do. They were all young and new, other than XL, and DCs exploited that. The team is developing right now. And amazingly Bryce is playing better. Funny how that works. Let's just enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. Getting there is half the fun, and the team is actually ahead of schedule.

Nah, 2 great routes/adjustments with 2 great passes. Forbes is their best corner and has been playing very well this season, for a team widely considered to be a super bowl contender and arguably the best team in NFL. Leaving your best man corner on an island with Coker and TMac isn't a mistake. The outcome didn't work out for them in those plays but on paper it should have. If anything, he shouldn't have been beaten deep for TDs by either of them. He's a first round CB that ran a 4.35 at the combine at 6 feet tall. He's not just a guy. He's their Jaycee Horn.

Nah man. Bryce is what he's shown to be. Inconsistent. Once that's conquered, then he'll graduate to good.

Or as a coaching staff. Canales literally benched him 2 games into his tenure. I think this coddling narrative is a little overblown. And how good is a FA that's sitting at home not on a team, or being waived in the offseason? Probably not as good as we're thinking.

Well... I think it improves your chances of being better early on. But where you go has always been the biggest factor. Coaching and good team mates make a huge difference. And that's with any position.

Right. If a no brainer falls in their laps, then you have to pull the trigger. I'm just thinking this FO has been picking starters in the first 4 rounds - unless they're injured of course. A starting FS/ILB/TE is more important than a backup QB right now. Build the team and then get the QB.

I mean this dude was a rookie. He was ruined his first game.

That oline was a friggin joke and his receivers were bad his rookie season. Think thay drafted Andre Johnson and some more offensive players his second year and things got a little better. Then Andre Johnson started getting injured, and it went back to weekly beat downs.

Yeah but Dak is a top 10ish QB. Bryce has been a bottom 5 QB. They are not remotely the same. You have to go in there with some kind of justification for what you're demanding. He has the team record for passing, and he's been attributed to a lot of GWDs. But Dan can easily come back with every other stat. He ain't getting that kind of money from any team right now. And agree a 5th round QB makes sense for development.

Just looked it up. It was 76 his first season! He was sacked over 200 times in his first 60 games with Houston! That's pretty brutal man. And in his case, quality is even worse than quantity. He had a few hits where he was absolutely demolished. I remember feeling sorry for that dude. He took a beating almost every game.

Bryce Young absolutely could not demand top QB money. There is no friggin way he'd go into Dan's office asking to be paid like Mahomes. I'm not even worried about that. Thinking 30-35 if they extended him now. But I would not do that now. He'll play next year after thay pick up his 5th year option. He's not delusional.

Carr was actually a great prospect. He had it all. Houston broke him. So bad that he NEVER recovered. Honestly always felt that's what was going on with our #1 pick QB. Hopefully he's finally getting his confidence back now. Hopefully.

We've had at least 4. Carr Cam Baker Bryce

Has it really come to that? Bryce lovers vs Bryce haters? I don't love him or hate him so what am I? Is there an Independent party?

I don't know man. He definitely have a great block for Corum to get into the endzone Sunday. But agree, he's been much better lately as the entire defense has.

So similar to Cam, where he just couldn't make throws that came with ease in the past. Body gave out on him. Mind was willing, but...

He played left guard next to Ickey in college. He's much more comfortable there and appears a competent NFL player on that side.

That fact that he had a bad game wasn't the issue. Coming off Tommy John and imploding is why he shouldn't have been extended.

Thirded...

Hahaha. I think they do want him to be successful but it's more like the Steph Curry effect. They want normal humans to think they can actually be NFL players.

You're right. I remember 2 years ago a bunch of Cowboys fans were complaining about Dak. Same with Ravens fans and Lamar. Like they legit wanted to replace them. I just sat there like... huh?!

Actually appears that you're trying way too hard to discredit any thing positive Bryce Young does. Just said the same stats would be fine for the award if it was by another player, but because it's Bryce it isn't good enough. He was hidden all game sans a few plays. Come on. You have to see what you're doing. Nobody here is saying Bryce is the guy yet. He's put up some absolute stinkers. But he's improving and if he has a good game, then he has a good game. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. Everything is either a bad game or comes with a caveat to you. What did you think about his 450 yards game against ATL? Gonna go out on a limb here and guess you'll say he only plays well against ATL and most of his yards were from YAC. Unreal...

If Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes had the same stats with the same throws on 4th down, would you have the same opinion?

That was Carolina vs Atlanta in the last game of the season last year. Went all out to spoil the Falcons

Didn't they split with the Saints and Falcons last year? It can happen.