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That's fair and where I am right now too. Losing for draft picks and to justify releasing players is not ok.

Dang! A third of the votes would rather lose than have BY come back. I don't think this is a fan forum anymore. Really thought there were only a few guys here that cheered for him to fail. 36% is crazy work!

I agree. And as for the QB. He needs to stick around until they find his replacement, or hopefully he shows more consistency game to game and play to play.

Didn't Carolina beat them without Jaycee and Moehrig last time? Adding Hunt and Moore to the offense will help ALOT. Particularly if Moore is taking XL's snaps.

Show me how defenses are playing the Panthers to stop the run and force the QB to beat them. They don't usually have more than 7 or 8 players within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, and 7 in the box. That's actually pretty common. They play Nickel and Dime on passing downs and a lot of zone. Daring a QB to beat you is running mostly man with run fit blitzes that stifle the run or pressure the QB if he's passing. That's usually when Bryce will take a shot deep, particularly on 3rd or 4th down.

I think a smoke is a screen play. Everyone but the primary receiver is usually blocking. I'm talking line your receiver out wide and run a quick slant. Not a dig or an out. That guy shouldn't get to the middle of the field before getting the ball. If so, it's too late and you're likely gonna get him killed. Especially if the defense is in zone.

Yeah Strato... that's just not true. It may appear that way. But guys are running routes to the sticks on 3rd and manageable. Canales also will abandon the run if it's not working, like in Seattle. He probably should have mixed up the downs he called run plays. Teams tend to stack the box on 1st down agaist Carolina more than other downs. I think that's more understanding playcalling tendencies than anything else.

Yeah, I wouldn't crown a 26 years old rookie too fast though. He played well late in the season but that second year could be tough now that they have film on him.

Quick slants only then, with the outside receiver. Though I disagree that he can't (or doesn't like to) throw to the middle of the field.

I really disagree that Canales calls a conservative game early. I used to think the same thing but watched a couple of games a little closer and came to the conclusion that Bryce PLAYS conservative early. Maybe he needs to get into a rhythm or something. I don't know. If he does, then give him some easy completions - slants and screens. If it's just an MO thing, then take away anything short and make him launch it early.

You beat me to it.

Swole Bones!!!

Haruki Nakamara - not sure of spelling. I just sounded it out.

There needs to be more speed on the offense. Bryce Young is good enough I guess, if you give him the type of receivers and TEs he needs to be successful. He needs YAC guys. Not possession receivers. He just isn't that type of QB. The best thing that could have happened for this team in 2015 was Kelvin Benjamin getting injured. Cam was one of the only QBs in the NFL that could get it to Ginn. Kelvin would have slowed down the offense.

Looks like the entire offensive line is pass blocking. That was a flea flicker by design. He just slipped trying to do too much.

I agree he's way too inconsistent right now. I even said he isn't a franchise QB because of it. This whole back and forth is because someone said they could tell Bryce wasn't gonna be a good pro based on how he played in college. And that ain't true. This whole arm issue, not throwing deep and too small to pass over the middle was not an issue in college. Dude was the truth. Obviously all great college players don't become great pros. But in my opinion that's usually either a guy that doesn't have a good work ethic, does dumb stuff outside of football or goes to the wrong team.

Frank? Stop. Context freaking matters. Bryce threw for 400 yards,3 TDs, no INTs to beat Georgia in the SEC championship game like a month earlier that season. Metchie tore his ACL in that game and didn't play in the final game. Then Jamison Williams hurt his knee in the 1st quarter of that final game. Dude still played his tail off against a defense that would have 5 first round draft picks! 5 first round draft picks! With neither of his 2 big targets. 365 yards, 1 TD and 2 picks against that defense with 3rd level receivers is not a bad game. Yes he got in a shootout and lost against an offense with George Pickens, Ladd McConkey, Adonia Mitchell, Darnell Washington and Brock frigging Bowers. All without his top 2 guys, his only 2 guys, Metchie and Williams. Context matters. Name another receiver on that Bama team. And remember, this is before Gibbs.

Roger that. Bryce Young wasn't that good at Bama. He actually passed for all of those yards and TDs, and won a Heisman because of Metchie, Williams, and then Gibbs his junior year - even though he's a running back. Beating out CJ Stroud for the Heisman with Njigba, Olave, Marvin Harrison, Egbuka, Garrett Wilson, and Treveyon Henderson. Come on. I am not defending today's Bryce Young. He's playing bad football now, but that doesn't mean he wasn't balling at Bama. Added: Happy New Year gents! May all your QB dreams come true in 2026.

You mean the running back? Of course. Edit: And he wasn't there in 2021.

I mean I ain't trying to die on the Bryce Young hill, but this is a crazy statement. Who were Mac and Tua's receivers? Devonta Smith won a frigging Heisman! WRs don't mean everything but they matter.

Is that what it is? He's had it too easy for you? Lol! I never said BY is playing well. At least not consistently enough to be a franchise QB. That still doesn't take away what he did in college. He can play. He just isn't, so it doesn't matter if he can or not.

He definitely had talent around him. But they weren't the only reason he won the Heisman. I mean he is the only QB to ever win it at Bama - with the same number of 5 star players and coaches. I remember watching games and thinking this lil mofo is a baller. Still didn't want him. Because the team wasn't ready for a 1st round rookie QB. Bottom line - Bama Bryce was a friggin baller. Carolina Bryce is NOT.

Frank what are you even talking about? He was the #1 QB in his high school class and the #2 overall recruit. Why would he be at a smaller school? Dude threw for dang near 5000 yards his sophomore season at Alabama with Jamison Williams and John Metchie. Good players but more speed than skilled. Maybe that's this dude's problem. Panthers keep bringing in big body WRs, but maybe he needs wiry fast guys instead. CJ Stroud threw for over 4000 that season too. Care to look at his receivers?

So you seriously think Bryce was bad in college and his receivers made him look good? Oh wow.