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You know who else doesn't run QB sneaks? Mahomes and Lamar. They use TEs. We could do that too if they're concerned about his size. But... I do recall Bryce running a QB sneak against Green Bay and getting a couple of yards out of it. He can do it. They just don't.

I think a lot of it has to do with Bryce's past play that folk can't let go at this point. He used to hold the ball forever and just take sacks. Now the oline was bad but more than a few were on him. I judge him game to game, play to play, with no expectations. But he hasn't really been a sitting duck since his rookie season and maybe a little before the benching. Earlier this season he took sacks and fumbled the ball way too often. But he wasn't just sitting back there like a statue. He just didn't know when to give up on plays.

I wouldn't go that far. I think the defense should get the lion's share. But in their defense there were some very questionable calls that extended drives. But giving up those 3rd and longs were back breakers. Bryce isn't asked to carry the team. He's asked to make his 4 or 5 big plays, usually towards the end of games. That's how you win with this version of Bryce. I think he made more than that yesterday. I thought he did a good job of manipulating the pocket and escaping when he had to. He just didn't get the help he needed to win the game. I'm not saying that's always the case. But it was yesterday. I think. I plan to watch the All-22 today. The eye in the sky don't lie.

Oh you old too!

Yep

Ok. That was funny. Still doesn't change anything. But that made me chuckle. I actually agree. Just not on that play.

None. What QB never gets sacked? Especially when their LT gets beaten in 2 seconds?

Frank! The highest paid contract on the oline isn't even playing! They couldn't move the LOS in the run game and constantly allowed pressure against the pass. I don't care how much they're paid. Remember we paid a guy at LT who was the Center's brother. He was the highest paid lineman on the team, offense and defense, and he was the worst. Shough played really well in my opinion. Particularly for a rookie. But if you didn't see him get bailed out of a ton of bad passes by his receivers, then I don't know what to tell you either. I don't mind disagreeing. Have a wonderful day as well.

Not holding your 1st round LT to the same standard is equally as embarrassingly foolish. Like what QB in the league avoids every rush like that? Every time? That's not realistic. In the same game, Shough got caught up in the trash a lot more than that. And the rush wasn't nearly as fast.

No sir! I call it when he makes a bad play or has a bad game over all. That is not on the QB. He avoided that same pressure the play before and after, but expecting your QB to be superman and hide other players getting beaten that badly that fast is not realistic. For any QB.

Lef tackle is the BLIND side for right handed QBs. That's why they get paid so much. If your LT is getting dog walked into the QB in 2 seconds, that is not the QB's fault. Geez people. You would only say that about Bryce Young. Truth is Chase was beating Ickey like a drum all game - against the run and the pass. It wasn't speed rushes either. He overpowered him all day. Bryce basically escaped multiple sacks throughout the game. Dalton would have gone down at least 7 or 8 times yesterday, including that play.

TMac I'm sorry. He's pretty good. He's not good. Coker is good. He really is a smart, tough and reliable receiver. His only real negative is a lack of top end speed. If that dude had XL's physical ability, he'd be one of the best in the league. TMac is young. He's probably not what he was billed to be yet, but we've seen flashes. He'll be better than all of them in a year or two. He lacks true WR1 speed, but his ability to make tough catches is why he went before Egbuka and Luther. Unfortunately he really hasn't made a lot of tough catches when given the opportunity. I'd say Coker has just as many wow receptions as TMac, with a 1/4 of the targets. He has great instincts (that can't really be taught) but loses focus on catches way too much. 2 big drops yesterday. XL is a step above Mingo right now. He is not a natural receiver. I really hope the light turns on for him. His potential is through the roof. JT Sanders will likely be better in a season or two, but he ain't there yet. Not tough or reliable. Evans lacks athleticism. Tremble is the best of that group and he's an unreliable target as well. But I love his CRAZY when the ball is in his hands. He is who he is at this point. Yesterday's game was a really good example of where our receivers are compared to other teams. The little things like working back to the ball, high pointing intermediate passes with strong hands, catching in traffic, beating tight coverage. The Saints receivers probably saved 2 INTs yesterday on late and badly placed passes from Shough. So yes, he has all the confidence in the world to let it rip. I'll watch the All-22, but I'm thinking (like most every game) Bryce isn't confident in his receivers to make plays or bail him out on tight coverage throws. But at least he is taking deep shots now. Honestly think it's time to get Jimmy Horn in the game. We need some juice on the field in a big big way.

Not me. I have never thought this team had legit NFL caliber weapons. I think they have potential, but right now we probably have the worst WRs and TEs in the NFL. Sorry, just facts.

Team doesn't have real playmakers except for Coker. And his big plays are based on mismatches most of the time. We don't have that guy at WR, RB or TE. We have a bunch of big possession receivers and TEs. Unfortunately only one of them can catch consistently. It's time for Jimmy Horn to get more plays. He needs to be developed. Just take the lumps for 4-5 weeks, but he needs to get on the field.

So what game have we played where our WRs and TEs were better than our opponents?