Navy_football

Agree the Panthers receivers are generally better at being possession receivers, sans the XL drops. But Patriots receivers are absolutely better at YAC. Douglas, Boutte, Hunter and Bourne have all been better at making defenders miss in the open field than anyone on this team. Our receivers absolutely suck at that. So I guess it's just preference. And it really doesn't matter what you're trying to do, or how hard you're trying to make a guy miss. Stop falling down or running out of bounds after the catch and make a friggin play! Thielen is great as a possession guy. I admit that. He's arguably one of the best in that role right now. And agree Coker and Sanders give more YAC effort, but they don't get enough opportunities for it to really matter on Sundays. Panthers need more explosive plays period. Unfortunately Canales and Young can't trust anyone but a slow possession receiver to provide them. That's not good.

Panthers have a much better oline, but the Patriots have better receivers. When the Panthers oline has a bad game, it's over. There isn't anyone on the team to save them. When the Patriots oline holds, there are plays to be made and guys to make them. Panthers receivers are happy just making the catch. They ain't trying to make a big play.

If a running back is actually BPA after the 3rd round, then yes it's time to draft running back.

That sounds good in theory, but I don't believe a QB makes a WR better than he is. A good one can help him reach his potential but not necessarily surpass it. If he ain't a playmaker, a QB ain't gonna make him one. However, a good WR can help QBs look better than they really are though. Bryce is not Brock Purdy. Bryce Young is actually most dangerous when the play breaks down. As for Cam in 2015 - his 5th year in the NFL. No QB has ever done more with less. That's not a fair comparison for Bryce Young. He isn't built that way. Cam could lead the team in rushing yards and TDs, rushing attempts, and passing. Heck if he ran a couple of routes a game, he probably would have led the team in receiving too. All he ever needed was average protection and a couple of speed guys to stretch the defense. How friggin hard was that? Hurney and Rivera suck A$$ for what they did to him - truly a generational talent that flamed out in his prime ala Bo Jackson.

Now that would be disappointing. Not saying you're wrong, but disappointing nonetheless.

Right. My point was that stats were data points, sort of like the combine. They are both objective, but only chapters in a bigger story. I have no idea how he came up with those rankings but they obviously weren't only stats focused. Likely opinion based after watching film.

Obvious he isn't focused solely on stats here. They don't tell the full story. Just another reference point. Kind of like the combine.

Or the deep ball against the Saints that the DB took from him. Or the possible game winning TD pass against the Eagles that he dropped. I remember another deep pass down the left sideline that he dropped as well - just can't remember the team. Look, I think XL is a rookie with the yips. He has to get out of his head and just play. It happens. But it's inaccurate to blame his issues on the QB. Bryce had to overcome his own issues early in his career as well. XL seems to have the work ethic to overcome and regain his confidence.

You mean our own Taysom Hill? Sign me up.

I don't even think it needs to be a WR1 or X type. Just a guy or two that can consistently catch the ball, and make people miss and gain yards after the catch. That or get a guy in FA like Higgins or Wilson. It really looks like JT gets open regularly, but Bryce tends to force to Thielen on those plays instead now. It feels like JT got alot more looks from Bryce before Thielen came back.

I'm not 100% sure what that means, but a couple of YAC receivers is greatly needed - for whoever ends up being the QB.

Agree they didn't have a stud runner, but Curtis, DJ and Robbie is a fast group. They all are YAC playmakers. Robbie was a legitimate "stretch the defense" deep threat.

I can see that a little. However we have to remember Teddy had Robby Anderson, DJ Moore, Curtis Samuel and a young Christian McCaffrey. I just need to see Bryce with a playmaking receiver or two before I make final judgment. Not that Thielen isn't good, but he's a possession receiver that will sneak one by you if you're not paying attention.

I agree with your opinion. Add in that he's only been a playcaller one year before coming to Carolina. Maybe he wanted to take a hands on approach with Bryce's development by being the primary voice in his ear, instead of like last season where several coaches were telling Bryce several different things. I think Canales is growing as a HC and an OC. All while trying to develop a second year QB. Particularly an anomaly like Bryce. Tall task for anyone, but I think he is/will figure it out.

And #2s that would be our #1. And we out here beating our chests over a slot receiver that can't RAC.