Frank Hollywood

Been on the fence all week. Rooting for the Seahawks hardcore on Sunday after those Kraft comments.

An equipment room guy has already been confirmed on tape taking the balls into another room. No one inflated the balls with 125 degree air. Your logic is that of a small child or woodland creature. Please stop, it's beyond sad. Throughout all this I wonder if it's even occurred once to you that they could be guilty.

Neil degrasse Tyson expanded on it and said the balls would have to be inflated with 125 degree air to lose that much pressure.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2336984-nfl-reportedly-finds-11-of-12-balls-used-in-afc-championship-were-under-inflated?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league4?is_shared=true The pats locker room attendant was seen taking the balls to another room before bringing them to the field. Quick, I need your stories to change from "atmospheric conditions" to "the attendant acted on his own". You guys keep changing your story to defend them, don't stop now.

Once again no one is claiming that they got this far by altering balls. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. BTW, it's lose, not loose.

Our problem is that we are using fact, logic and reason to argue with two people who have no interest in using them. We could hypothetically have video evidence of belicheck and Brady personally deflating the balls and they'd still argue with us.

Well you can stay on his nuts. I'm more interested in his balls.

Wrong again. I've spent years on personal reflection to be as unbiased as possible. you'd be surprised how approaching every argument or problem while being completely objective will get you much farther ahead in life. Upon this reflection I've substituted the Patriots with another team, the titans, a team I am completely indifferent to. The result (my opinion) was the same. Cheating is cheating and the team should lose draft pick/s. You admitting to being biased makes your argument even that much worse, which is saying a lot as it was pretty terrible to begin with.

So Brady says in the interview he prefers the football to be inflated to exactly 12.5 psi but couldn't tell when they wereturn deflated under 10 psi?? This says without a doubt he knew.

I can't stand Brady or the Patriots but that's crazy talk.

I think at this point it is a fair assumption to state that this was almost certainly deliberate. To pass the test an hour before and have nearly all of them deflated not long after, coupled with the fact all of the colts balls were fine.....we can also further speculate that the colts complained to the refs last game during the regular season about the pats balls being deflated. So that's twice. While it's an assumption, it's a fair one at this point to claim someone from the patriots organization is blatently cheating.

You're wasting your time. He's not interested in reaching the correct conclusion, he's only concerned with trying be right.

I can't stand the illogical Patriot aupporters in this thread. 1. The over inflated balls didn't help them win! No one is saying it did. The problem is the intention to circumvent the rules whether it affected the outcome or not. 2.Other teams have done it too! You all used this excuse in spygate. Cheating is cheating. If they found out that any team modifies the psi of the ball AFTER it is approved by refs then they should be held accountable too. If for some reason they aren't it doesn't let the team that's caught off the hook. 3.People are just hating on the Patriots because they're winners. No, we're not hating on anyone. We are tired of the classless play by this organization that has already once been caught cheating by the same head coach. We expect accountability. You can tell the biased patriot supporters because they are rolling with a different story now. First it was blown out of proportion story and there was no deflation, just whining from other fans. Then once the balls were confirmed deflated it was the weather that deflated the balls. Once that was proven false by the fact none of the colts balls were deflated their argument turned into something else. There's no winning with these clowns. If somehow they turn up proof, I hope they lose a 1st and 2nd round pick. Nothing more, nothing less.

Still on brady's nuts bro?

Where did I claim that's the reason they lost? Doesn't change the fact cheating is cheating. Not sure what the marine comment is about as if thats supposed to mean something.

If you break the rules, it's cheating. In fact I'm pretty sure that's the very definition of cheating. Now go suck off brady.

I thought it was clear last night that WR is our biggest need.

Peat commits another year. This could change things....

Well we tried, guys. Maybe next year.

Nfl.com says blackout. I'm in the williamsburg va area. Go figure... I was considering paying for Sunday ticket this season but I'll continue to stream it to avoid giving these crooks any money.

I could absolutely see it. Cam and ginn are just beginning to gel. When they finally do it's going to be a beautiful thing. I hope we offer him a new contract before the season ends, something like 3 yrs/5 mil

Ginn catches a deep ball for a td and has over 100 yards receiving.

Allow me to be the first to say that Mike Tolbert being active could be HUGE. With our poor run blocking, he could help on designed runs to D-Will, could run it himself and is also a great receiver. I hope Shula uses him like Chud should have.

They knew what they were getting with hixon though. He's also simply a better receiver than gettis.

Ugh. I wish we could cut all the AE haters from the fanbase.