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QB-3 Cam Newton Derek Anderson Joe Webb I think Webb is the future back up when Anderson finally retires, I really like the way this QB back-up situation has played out. HB-4 Jonathan Stewart Cameron Artis-Payne Jordan Todman Fozzy Whittaker (Wegher to practice squad) I really think he’s more talented than Fozzy at the 4th spot, but with the concerns of picking up the blitz he’s likely looking at a practice squad designation. FB-1 Mike Tolbert WR-6 Devin Funchess Ted Ginn Jr. Jarrett Boykin Corey Brown Jerricho Cotchery Bersin or Player via cut (Byrd-practice squad), with so little experience I just can’t see Boykin not making the team, aside from Cotchery, and Ginn he’s the only receiver on the roster with a decently impressive resume. I’ve never been sold on Brown and the pre-season hasn’t helped that. TE-3 Greg Olsen Ed Dickson Brandon Williams If Simonsen is eligible I think he hits the PS, Williams coming back with three years under his belt gets the nod especially with his special teams back ground. OL-9 Michael Oher Andrew Norwell Ryan Kalil Trai Turner Mike Remmers Darryl Williams Amini Silatolu Chris Scott Nate Chandler No need to keep Folkerts as Remmers is being groomed as the back up, with Williams starting by the mid-point of the season. 26 Offensive Players DL-8 Charles Johnson Star Lotulelei Kawaan Short Kony Ealy Wes Horton Mario Addison Kyle Love Dwan Edwards Rakim Cox I think keeping a 5th DT is over-blown as people over react a bit to the Star injury, but I do think we keep a 5th DE. LB-6 Luke Kuechly Thomas Davis Shaq Thompson A.J. Klein David Mayo Adarius Glanton I really can’t see us moving Mayo to the PS, I don’t think any draft picks under DG have not made the 53, why start now? DB-5 Josh Norman Charles Tillman Bene Benwikere Teddy Williams T.J. Heath Melvin White is the odd man out IMO, sub par last year, and doesn’t seem to be making plays consistently in the pre-season. We keep 5 with Colin Jones’ ability to back up the nickel. S-4 Kurt Coleman Roman Harper Trey Boston Colin Jones Not much to see here aside from a guy like Marlowe hitting the PS. 24 Defensive players Special Teams-3 Graham Gano Brad Nortman J.J. Janson One of the best units in the NFL, and over looked by many.

Team Facebook issued a post saying the ''initial'' diagnosis is a knee sprain heading to Charlotte for an MRI. For additional reference- http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Panthers-await-word-on-extent-of-Benjamin-injury/2a0bd9e1-f304-4eb5-8f84-fafbca145187

Ok so Brown made a team with Avant, Cotchery, and Bersin as I believe we only kept 5 receivers last year. Of that group Brown, Cotchery and Bersin are left, out of this group only Brown offers the potential for play making ability. Last year Bersin was the 2nd big receiver of the group, drafting Funchess makes him more expendable. Byrd offers more bang for your buck in one to two plays a game vs Cotchery or Bersin in three or four. I mean we were so bad off last year at receiver overall tha we had Cotchery in the pistol as the pitch option....now replace him with Byrd, and put Brown or Ginn back in at that slot position and that is a recipe to really for the defense to choose vs that set. Or even as a bottom of the roster guy I'd rather see a young player continuing to develop vs average players like Bersin, or Cotchery if it came down to those three for a final spot as I don't think Byrd will be hidden on the PS after the pre-season begins.

I think I’d like to see Byrd win the KR spot, with Lee replacing Brockel, and as far as Marlowe is concerned I can live with Harper, and Coleman splitting duties at strong safety, while Marlowe develops on the PS.

We still discussing Ace''who the F is that'' Sanders....

Ace Sanders- http://www.nfl.com/player/acesanders/2540267/profile Ted Ginn- http://www.nfl.com/player/tedginn/2507166/profile I think my favorite is when Huddler’s just make sh** up, better than Ginn, good lord. Ace has a career avg. of 9.5 yards per catch, and has ‘0’ touchdowns in his career. Even Ginn’s worst year is better than that. Ace had just 55 yards last year….55. Ginn’s career long beats Sanders 12 game total. I don’t know why people are so quick to hate on Ginn, and some other players here, but Ginn had his ‘BEST’ year with Carolina in 2013 from a receiving touchdowns stand point, and arguably overall, and we were happy to have him back as a needed deep threat, and returner. You sure you're a Panther fan dang...

Like a poster mentioned we'd have a substantial amount of room as Johnson's CAP hit will not be 20 million next year, there's also still 12 million in dead money on this season's books, and we're still sitting on 14 million in CAP space. I know we're used to CAP hell/restrictions under the previous regime but it seems we are preparing our CAP to bring back our core young players. Now I'm no CAP/Draft expert, but I'd guess we'd do as follows: 1)Extend Luke, and Norman by next off-season 2)Extend KK in 2017 (iirc last year of 4yr rookie deal signed in 2013) 3)Exercise 5th year option on Star for the 2018 season, and work on extension I think Gettleman has expressed his desire to retain core pieces and I think all the players above fall into that category. Draft quality players, sign less expensive veterans and over-looked talent at UDFA to fill out the roster.

​May be true, BUT Silatolu's cap hit I'd imagine would be higher than Folkert's considering he was a 2nd round pick, and iirc Folkerts is a UDFA with no guaranteed money.

​2QBs 3Hbs 2FBs 6WRs 3TEs 9OL That's a total of 25 players for the offense, if we go 25 on defense, that leaves the 3 ST's spots K/P/LS. I'd like to see Byrd make it if he's been taking advantage of his opportunities. 5DEs 4DTs 6LBS 6DBs 4Ss = 25

​I think it's more can we make Brian Folkerts expendable and carry 9 OL opening a spot up elsewhere on the roster. LT-Oher, Martin LG-Norwell, Silatolu C-Kalil, Remmers RG-Turner, Scott RT-Remmers, Williams Perhaps a 6th WR, DB, or a 7th LB vs the 6 we carried last year, or a spot strictly for a ST player, or UDFA we don't want to risk on PS.

​Jawalruss Benjamin??? Lol, I'm not worried, IT'S JUNE!

​I think you're seeing that because the ball to KB is led further outside, so he uses a small leap forward to extend to make the catch. On Funchess' route the ball is put on his body, so he is able to catch it in stride and turn up the field. Ball location affects the type of attempt made on the ball, I don't know if it is, but I'm guessing that is Proehl throwing the routes, or another assistant. There are plenty of times we saw KB catch the ball and turn up field for yac.

​I still can't believe we signed Haruki Nakamura, let a lone had him starting. Good Lord, just how bad was our defensive back field for that to have even been the out come. Nakamura, Godfrey, that guy from SF (forgot his name), Sherrod Martin, who were our safeties that year as Norman was in his rookie year at the time.

I don't see us keeping 10 DB/S combined, also you listed 11 players. (7 DB's and 4 S's) ​I can see us keeping 5 DB's and 4 S's on the active roster, with guys like White or Byndom hitting the PS if eligible. My DB list looks more like- Norman, Tillman, Benwikere, Byndom/White (one will not make it IMO), and Williams. Same group of Safeties. You also cut Brandon Williams at TE, with no drafted TE's and no Brockel (per your cut) who's going to be the 3rd TE? Who would make more sense than keeping Williams? He knows the playbook, still has a lot of potential, and has some familiarity with Cam already.

I think I’d like to see the ‘’backs’’ positions shake out like- QB- Newton Anderson HB- Stewart Artis-Payne Whittaker Todman (takes spot previously occupied by Joe Webb) FB- Tolbert Ward (takes spot previously occupied by Richie Brockel) I think Joe Webb was Cam insurance last season, with the emphasis to run, and on special teams I don’t think a 3rd QB option carries the value of keeping Todman in the fold. Prior to Cam’s injury we ran with two quarterbacks to keep the extra spot open. I think we return to that formula in favor of a value at running back, kick returner, special teams coverage vs inactive or DNP 3rd quarterback. No offense to Webb as he looked serviceable last pre-season, I just think the team is healthier, and improved across the board in too many areas for him to survive the final cut as I think he’ll make it that far.

I think some of ya'll over-exaggerate the drops. Ted Ginn was considered a ''dropper'' yet many grew to love him as a play-maker, and he was a priority to re-sign but we didn't have the cap. The Jets ran Hill as their number 1/2 way before he was ready, then add in Sanchez as the QB and their west coast offense and you are not utilizing his best attribute. He may not be ideal on intermediate, and short routes, but with a QB who can lead him deep he has a chance to show out like GInn did when much wasn't expected of him, and his signing was not a fan favorite excluding his returner skill set. We've seen Bersin's best for the most part, we've yet to see Hill's, give it time, and let the pads sort it out.

​This is my stance on the 4th-6th spots as well. With Benjamin, Funchess, Olsen, Dickson, Ginn, Brown and the backs all being involved in the passing games, barring injury guys 4-6 on the depth chart won't see that much action. With that being said those last spots IMO are for developing future contributors, so to me potential ceiling should trump a ''solid'' guy. I'm not saying Hill is the next anything, I just think his future could be brighter. You can find possession receivers across the board. However Hills raw abilities are much harder to come by. If we kept Bersin around 3 years on the PS before he played, who's to think we wouldn't let Hill occupy the 5th or 6th spot to continue his development...

​Umm, where are the reports saying Hill has had stone hands in OTA's I've heard good reports on him. The reports on Boykin and some other the others haven't been as good however. 1-Benjamin 2-Funchess 3/4-Ginn/Brown (not sure who wins here yet) 5-Cotchery/Bersin (I think vet presence wins this battle) 6-Hill (if we keep 6 receivers)

​Add Philly Brown, Damiere Byrd, DeAndre Pressley, Mike Brown, and Kurt Coleman to that list, you're a few short* (see what I did there) http://www.panthers.com/team/roster.htm

The contract iirc should kick it's 1st year into gear after this one ends. So he'll play out the 5th year option, then the contract takes affect in the space that would have been the open year. Which iirc is why they call it an extension. I'm not a guru, but that is how I understand it.

I only care about 40 times from the combine/pro-days because it affects Madden ratings, if a guy can ball he can ball, Jerry Rice iirc (without double checking) was a 4.6 guy. Speed is over-rated aka combine times, it's just a filler (the combine) to give us fans something to watch, and to put top prospects in one setting for mass review by organization staffs. No position ever strictly drafted off measurable traits has succeeded on any level consistently far as I'm aware. You draft the guys who can actually play if that means you go from 4.4 to 4.5 to 4.6 that's fine, last I checked, WR's, TE's, and HB's don't run 'go patterns' all game. Boykin in this example in my humble, and unprofessional opinion brings more to the table offensively as he shows he's a hands catcher, can box out smaller DB's as he is 6'2", and can gain yac. Those are all things Brown did not show, could he improve sure, but he's not as dynamic or fast as Ginn, and he doesn't have any special traits, he's an average smaller receiver who falls down a lot and shows a knack for getting dinged up.

I think the backfield will shake out like this- 1)Stewart 2)Artis-Payne 3)Todman 1)Tolbert 2)Brockel I think Reaves and Whittaker may find themselves on the PS if eligible, I think this year we may carry six receivers vs five, and three backs vs four as we have a bit more talent at receiver than in past seasons. Tolbert allows some flexibility in the event we lose Stewart ''in-game''.

KB Funchess Ginn Boykin Cotchery Hill/Brown/Byrd I think Bird hits the practice squad, is Brown still eligible?

With the Corey Brown ''Highlight Thread'' going up, I thought I'd take a look at the newest non-drafted Panther receiver. I must say I had some familiarity with him, but just comparing the videos I saw more separation, ability to go up and fight over DB's, HANDS catching and YAC. From the Brown video, I saw body catch after body catch, a receiver who fell damn near every catch, and no real separation. He looked good as a gadget guy on the edge during the reverses and option play. But what does he really offer over Ginn who already put up better numbers in this offense in the same 3rd receiver role who has KR/PR value...and over Boykin who is a better receiver prospect? Oh and just for fun here's some Ted Ginn highlights in case you forgot what we lost in the 2014 purge, enjoy....

Steve Smith, straight up the reason I started watching the Panthers as a NC native my junior year in high school back in 2002. The GREATEST PANTHER, and my all time favorite player. Hell I still find 5'9" receivers on Madden to sign, and give the number 89 to and eventually develop into my #1 receiver lol. I tried to trade for him but the Baltimore user in our league wouldn't give him up. Hopefully we can find another player with his flair, and passion for the game. No one IMO even compares, Smitty was/is/always will be that dude! HBD!