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You take the QB, it's been made clear that TB isn't it, and the 2022 QB class is limited, we are likely not picking inside the top 10 again next off-season. You take the QB while he's there, we're going to have substantial cap space after this season.

In a normal FA period you can't pay all those guys what the woudl normally cost: AB - Minimum contract after he ruined his own value Fournette - Minimum contract after he pulled a Moss in JAX and got released Suh - Aging vet at less than premium Gronk - at a respectable rate after a trade of a 4th TB12 - at 25M, which is substantially less than the current QB ''re-sign'' market value which is 35M+ for ''franchise QB's''

Ian Thomas was solid when he replaced Olsen in 2018 as a rookie, Teddy, or this offense just don't feature TE usage. https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/4045305/ian-thomas Then 2019 Olsen returns, and Cam is hurt all year, and in 2020 he's the 5th option if that with a QB that doesn't look past the sticks hardly.

Playing versus a team with no OL wins championships

That's how they rig it...

Because Teddy can't lead receivers on the vertical route...even Robbie voiced it in his final presser, and I paraphrase ''hopefully we can do more with me DOWN THE FIELD''. Go look it up when you get time.

Because there are no tackle reserves in the NFL. Think about how long even Byron Bell hung around after being cut. It's a real lack of talent, so damn near anyone with ''tackle experience'' is considered for a roster. It's why I can see the trade up for Little, maybe he has busted but he had high grades from pretty much all scouting sources, and the thing is if he'd worked out that's a solid tackle on a rookie deal. We haven't HAD the cap to pay a upper tier T, so that was the only move we had, and the guy Buffalo got is a pure RT, not a left. IMO, we should have taken Ford, and moved Moton to LT as he played that in college as well. It's why we traded for Okung, one to get away from Trai's 2 remaining years versus Okung's 1 remaining year opening more cap sooner, and he was actually a quality LT. He was just injured all damn year.

Lol, Chiefs didn't overlook the OL, they had THREE STARTERS out due to injury. Depth at the OL is nigh impossible to cover that many injuries on any team since quality OL that aren't being paid are scarce. It was a fortunate matchup for TB, and one any seasoned football fan could see before the game started, similar to our defense in 2013 with the Hardy / Johnson duo, sit on the short routes, and let the front eat. That's what TB did, because the injuries allowed them too.

You can't do well in the redzone if the QB doesn't throw it into the endzone...

Our 1st, and a day 2 or 3 pick is not the farm. I wasn't a fan of that, but it's hard to argue he wouldn't be better THIS year than who we would get at 8 if a QB.

Josh Allen was boom or bust, many at the time felt similar about Mahomes (10th overall), you can't hit a homerun if you don't swing the bat! Give me potential and upside with + athleticism, and let the coaches do what they are paid millions to do!

Then pay him over TB if they can't do better than a TB quality QB. Doubt there is a huge market for him, could even see a return to NE as the main option aside from staying in IND. Just don't see them trading for TB.

Doubt it, they still have Jacoby Brissett who people could argue is better than TB or at the very least a lateral move, and they took Jacob Eason last year. If they make a QB move it's for a clear upgrade.

While still on the hook for TB's dead money so this makes no sense. Even when it came to Stafford, no one is trading for TB to lessen his hit on the books. Makes sense to draft a QB whether we trade up, or at #8 if Lance is there, and have the rookie sit for a 1/4 or 1/2 of the season; and then let them play it out. TB's cap hit after 2021 is 5M dead money, if we move on from him this off-season it's 20M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/teddy-bridgewater-14441/ We don't have the cap to waste on that amount of dead money after what we just went through this past off-season and jettisoning veterans and taking the cap hits.

So now that the Stafford domino has fallen, is this still viable or will a guy like Lance be there at #8...

No.

Jones is like every other ALA QB, product of the environment. And for those acting like mobile / athletic QBs can't deliver the ball that is just an ignorant perspective. Lance, Fields, can deliver from the pocket, the athleticism and mobility is just a + I don't want a 1-dimensional QB, outside of Brady / Brees / Rodgers, the most successful teams have a guy that can move and extend plays at a high level + turn the corner on a defense. (Mahomes, Jackson, WIlson, Tannehill, many forget he was WR)

I can't lie, these decisions are both sus, you HAD Cam who is better than Stafford, who can't even be compared to TB, and you come full circle willing to give up #8 on a QB older than Cam with just as much wear and tear WHO HAS NEVER WON A POST-SEAON GAME...after cutting a QB who was less expensive than both of these two... Rams saved us from ourselves, you never shop hungry, I'm ok with trading up for a QB since the salary of a rookie QB is that valuable IF you get the pick right, I see no point in a kings ransom for DW if we lose top picks for several years and are on the hook with a 35+M QB, and no cap flexibility to bring in quality free agents. I feel like that point is over-looked by so many.

I want a young QB, and that contract, use that additional cap over the next 3 years to field the best team possible.

7th rounder had a failed career...

Yet none of us made it to the NFL, and we post on the Huddle, and we reference someone who at least made it to the pros as a failed career...sheesh. He comes across as vocal, and doesn't share popular opinions, and supports the shiii out of his little bro, no different than UNQUALIFIED people on here / twitter. I see no difference outside the credentials that we don't have.

It wasn't acquiring him, it was the cost for a QB older than Cam, with an injury history even if he's been relatively healthy lately. Most would rather take / trade up for one of the young talented QBs in this class, versus having a band-aid / premium money tied up in Stafford. We have several holes, and eventually paying 35+ M to a QB with no OL, and no free agency money, and no draft picks is not a situation people looking at those items can get behind 100%. At the least when you trade up for a QB, you have 5 years of a talented QB at an extremely modest premium. So with the absence of the picks you traded, you have CAP to plug holes with higher quality free agents. To me, that approach makes more sense; that's not a lack of IQ, that's looking at the ramifications of what that trade would lead too....could we sign Moton, could we field a competent OL to protect a less mobile QB, etc.

With Goff's contract they'd have to draft OL or a receiver I'd wager. Defense seems like they had decent pieces.

Stafford is a good QB with 3-5 years on a playoff ready team, we have playoff ''potential'' but we are not playoff ready. We also do not have the cap to extend Stafford as he is going to want an increase in pay considering he's in the low 20's from an annual compensation standpoint. Trading for Watson, or Stafford is more than the loss of picks, it will also be a loss of substantial cap space, and we already have some of our own higher end guys to pay over the next 1-3 years. Moton, Moore, Burns, all of those contracts are either here or on the horizon and they won't be cheap, not to mention the holes we will need to fill in free agency; OL / DL / LB / DB depth. Makes more sense to trade up if needed, or draft the QB at 8 and have a talent at QB on a rookies pay scale allowing you to keep the bulk of the team strong for the next 5 years since 1st round picks have a 5th year team option.