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Miller - $3,970,000 was what he earned in 2020 (Erving comp) Schofiled - $1,500,000 '' '' (Elfein comp) These signing are on par when you look at guaranteed money / length. 2M guaranteed per for Elfien a former 3rd rounder, and 8M over TBD as the details are pending on Erving a former 1st round selection by CLE. Considering coach Rhule has OL coaching chops at the NFL level, I'm willing to see this play out. Reed wasn't even an FA signing during the traditional period, so naturally he'd make less.

You have to replace the depth we lost, neither Miller, or Schofield had high merits and played well, as bad as people here mock the OL they finished middle of the pack last season even with all of the injuries. We don't have the cap to sign a top tier FA on the OL, the price is too high, so the thing both these guys add is the fact they can both plug and play anywhere on the OL. Elfein - G or C Erving - T, G, and C These are value signings, and allow us to BPA in the draft is needed in case an OL prospect we like is not there.

Going back and reading these old scouting reports can be funny... https://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2017pmahomes.php https://medium.com/sportsraid/the-nfl-draft-scouting-reports-patrick-mahomes-blew-away-bb0871f5808 https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article224076765.html The point being no one ''truly'' knows what's going to happen a lot of it is based off of preference, Cam had a similar ill regard around him when we had the #1 overall pick. In most cases the team does their homework on these guys, and to be fair, when we talk about Lance, he possesses a lot of traits that translate to the NFL, will he need time, it's possible, you don't know until you have them in meetings, practice, etc. And considering TB's contract and dead money he may be here to be that bridge QB for a guy like Lance who may need some time. But IMO, you draft traits that can't be taught (athleticism to change the game, and arm talent, dudes don't get clocked by GPS at 20/21+ MPH by accident)

Or maybe go watch some film...they even covered the pro style aspect when Wentz was coming out of that school as well. Do some homework, just because a former player comments, doesn't mean it's always backed by research. There are plenty of terrible takes from former players in the media.

He talking out his a**, NDSU runs a pro style drop back passing game, lazy analysis. However, with Lance's skill set they can DO MORE THAN TAHT. Hell even LSU, ran the RPO, and option offense with Burrow. Hell, if he watched a Panther's game he'd see we did that with Teddy too. Jones isn't a franchise QB, he's more of a system fit than Lance since he is limited athletically. And if we were to draft a guy like Jones, you may as well just keep TB who is better than Jones.

If somehow they make it work with tier cap, hats off to them.

Fun times, Brian Burns' brother calling out #91 on twitter...

No, that is all.

This Mac Jones hype has got to stop...he's not better than Hurts, or Tua -- please stop. End PSA

Is it the determining factor, probably not. However, it is well documented he was in support of it. The argument for Teddy over Cam made sense, UNTIL you turn on tape. Problem is the tape on Cam was injury riddled for 18 & 19. I think most educated fans knew it was a bad move, but transition wise for the team Teddy's contract isn't detrimental and the first thing I thought was 3 years, means he's gone after 2 years. It's a lot easier for a rookie QB to replace Teddy, than it would be to have replaced Cam. This was the best way to lose games, while winning some. Teddy even in NO was limited in those starts as a passer, NO just had a much more complimentary roster. I mean imagine a healthy Cam with our guys on offense now and behind what was actually one of the better Panther OL when all the ''starters'' started.

Rebuilding the backend

Faith in New GM, +1

ST guys are not considered starters in the mainstream setting. Even if he's the ''starting'' snapper.

Or they do neither and take the BPA at OL / WR, let's include all three options ''triple-edge sword''. Their OL is old and they may be able to take Sewell / Slater at that spot. They're WR room is old as well Jackson / Jeffrey (Goodwin opt out) -- Jalen Reagor about the only bright spot at that position for them (maybe Fulgham as well) -- Waddle / Chase / Smith all have a chance to be there as well. So while I'm not saying they won't take a QB / or trade back, they don't have to do those things either.

But we got one more morale win, I understand the coach / player perspective on ''winning'' meaningless games. Personally I think they just wanted to beat Ron, as we clearly sat it down the rest of the way IMO. I think they were already prepared to do what is needed to bring in a different QB via trade / draft day (trading up if necessary). My question is what does this do to PHI's cap considering the guaranteed money?

Remembers hating this move, still hates this move. Cannot believe we actually did it, only saving grace is it's easier to come on after TB vs Cam. TB was the antithesis of Cam...

You Wilson nut huggers don't seem to get it, you're not DRAFTING THE SCHOOL the young man plays at, you are drafting the player, stats, D1, 2 etc. is great to argue about, but at the end of the day does the young man have NFL talent. Lance does, anyone that breaks the film down can attest, he's going to have the ability to survive behind a weak OL, and similar to Fields not only can he make all the throws, he can be a featured part of the run game. Wilson is talented, but you're not drawing up designed runs for him. With a weaker OL the offense will need layers, when you have to worry about a mobile QB that can finish runs, CMC, and Robby, and DJ as well that opens up the offense and alleviates pressure on the OL with the right calls by the OC. Josh Allen is as big as Cam almost (6'5 / 237), and Fields (6'3 / 228), and Lance (6'4 / 226 ) are right there as well, they are built to take NFL hits / sacks. That part of the game is inevitable, Wilson is built closer to Teddy Bridgewater at 6'3 under 210, that's a big difference when you consider a players availability. When guys play at lower levels you want to see the DOMINATE the competition like Chinn did at a small school, and like Lance did at NDSU. Fields then Lance are my preferences whether by trade or one being available at #8. Wilson is talented, but for me he's too small. Even Brady is listed at 6'4 / 225. You cannot be thin back there taking these hits.

In a trade up scenario give me Fields, has an NFL ready frame (Wilson is built similar to Teddy), has the big arm, and elite athleticism. Should allow for more offensive variety allowing pressure to be taken off of what is likely to be a below average OL next year with all the holes we have.

No real difference than Josh Allen out of a smaller school in Wyoming, and he was 7th overall...Baker and Donald went ahead of him, then Rosen at 10. That's when you have to believe you have the staff in place to 1) develop, and 2) put real weapons, and OL around a young QB talent to let him mature. If we could keep our picks, and Lance was available at 8 I'd be happy, his stock would be higher if he'd had a 2020 season. Elite athleticism, and arm talent to go with our full slate of picks allows us to trade back in the subsequent rounds with more opportunities to land some quality rookies.

Considering we were willing to shop #8 and then some for Stafford, I think this regime will do all it can to trade up and draft the next face of the franchise. #3, or #5 since a trade with ATL at #4 is out of the question. I still can't see NYJ taking a QB at #2, Darnold was billed highly and NYJ has been a dumpster fire since he's been there from a coaching perspective, with some knock it out the prospects available if I'm the NYJ I'm inclined to pick a stud (Sewell / Smith / Chase), or trade back and accumulate more picks inside the top 10-15 if a partner is available since they have a franchise capable yet to be proven QB on the roster with three years left at rookie pay.

Don't want any of them, Fields, or Lance are my preference. They have star+ potential, and elite NFL athleticism to go with their arm talent. Considering we will be building the OL over a year or so, a guy that can escape and make plays off schedule is a must.