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Pauline doubles down: “Cross won’t fall past 6”
Growl replied to FuFuLamePoo's topic in Carolina Panthers
and #11 is a much more reasonable spot for a guard, and #13 for a center, were gonna be dominating so much TOP these next few seasons hopefully the league changes the rules to structure playoff seeding by that kind of thing -
Pauline doubles down: “Cross won’t fall past 6”
Growl replied to FuFuLamePoo's topic in Carolina Panthers
sounds like some team trying to push the better OTs down the board panthers will probably slurp down the hype though -
Matt rhule fundamentally doesn’t understand that offensive selections are more valuable than defensive ones, he’s a huddler level talent scout whose board is divvied up on the basest of “safest player available”…. and Dave tepper put him with total control over the roster honestly not sure which is a bigger loser
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not really, because the draft doesn’t really operate in this brain meltingly simplistic manner
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my post and this comment aren’t exclusive
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and they will fail again, as they have, over and over. this board may undervalue the QB position but NFL teams do not. You aren’t trading into the #1 to select the only kind of QB that people on this forum are comfortable with.
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honestly if the team passes on a QB again because they think they can just go “get their guy” next offseason, I’ll be actively pulling for them to miss out. tepper and fitterer being forced to choke down the humble pie would be better for the long term health of the team, it’s the same arrogance that led to them being humiliated by Watson (and stafford, and others) over and over. this delusion that they can just have their cake and eat it too, that when the time comes they can just go do whatever they want, and they might as well draft a “safe” CB or OT or X or Y, it’s been the bedrock of their humiliation for a while now. if the thought process is “wow cj stroud, that’s it, I’ve decided, HE is OUR GUY, CJ Stroud is a panther everyone, let’s just be patient and PREPARE THE ROSTER” then I will earnestly be hoping cj stroud goes one pick ahead of them to the Falcons and that this team is imprisoned in the stench of their own self made failure because they will absolutely deserve it. At some point you have to stop wallowing in the delusion and the ego and you have to play the hand your dealt, it doesn’t matter what jimmy blogposter says about QB X-you have to join us back in reality and make decisions from that foundation.
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honestly props to robbie he could’ve waited for the team to inevitably settle in on whichever journeyman bum they talked themselves into this offseason so as to avoid making the big swing yet again, demanded a trade after the fact and made the organization look bad in the process or he could actually fight for the heart and future of the team by trying to prevent it from happening to begin with
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ELLIS L. WILLIAMS Of the OBSERVER on Jimmy G
Growl replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
It would be the exact same mistake. The resources given up are of secondary concern to how many times those loser staff and this loser organization can hitch their wagon to a loser journeyman QB chasing dreams of a .500 season. At some point you actually have to try to be great. i honestly suspect rhule desires a QB like garroppolo because he is what he is: an average player with average personality and average value and average ability who can be thoroughly indoctrinated into the Rhule mold. He won’t complain when he only throws 11 passes in a game, he won’t dance in the endzone, he won’t threaten Rhule’s authority by virtue of being a big personality with big stardom. he’s small and average, and that’s exactly what rhule and his dated view on the QB position wants -
ELLIS L. WILLIAMS Of the OBSERVER on Jimmy G
Growl replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’m honestly curious how many times an nfl team could make the same mistake in a row -
it’s so generic I honestly assumed it was just a placeholder for whatever they plan to put there until OP provided context
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late in the 4th of a must win game, panthers down by 4, need a stop, the crowd erupts into a magnanimous back and forth cheer to attempt energize the defense and save the season ”THE” ”BRAND” ”THE” ”BRAND” ”THE” ”BRAND” and that’s another New Orleans Saints third down conversion
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if you’re dropping from 6th to middle of the pack it better be for multiple ones, and you never ever pass up your choice of QBs when you have a need at the position. but there’s too much (erroneous) glorification of how Seattle got by during fitterer’s tenure that I’m inclined to believe he thinks it’s a good approach seattles been amongst the worst drafting teams in the league
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they’re going to get cute, move down, and take Ridder or some fourth wave guy because “when I was in Seattle we got Wilson in the 3rd round” and pat themselves on the back for picking up a couple pointless picks and being ‘smarter’ than everyone else
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I assumed you had considered the Ravens center as being one of the centerpieces of their class, he only received a one year deal as I recall
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signing good players to a one year deal is not an ideal lol
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Matt rhule was never going to try and build a winner with just guys he was familiar with, it is commonplace for new coaches to do this and it always lasts in the range of a season or so. Ron Rivera brought in guys he was familiar with from San Diego, and like 93% of the Bills roster was at one point former Carolina panthers the guys you are referring to are interior linemen, they are almost certainly versatile. one year contracts are not ideal looking for a team looking to build sustained success with quality players, the panthers didn’t sign these proven guys to short term deals because they wanted to evaluate them, and it’s just as easily likely that the short contract came from the players’ camp-an attempt to get a Hassan reddick like contract next season, and much like Reddick, the panthers will likely lose them at the height of their value.
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what is the OP even trying to say people come up with these weird ideals and then work backwards, and they can completely flip depending the context how does “we’re signing good free agents” even reconcile with “tepper isn’t letting rhule mortgage our future!” most of these contracts are for one season
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Sam Darnold told Jets they were “making a mistake” by trading him
Growl replied to WarPanthers89's topic in Carolina Panthers
why are we locking all the threads loaded with people with bad QB takes? there are still posters who haven’t learned anything and have the same awful opinions. at least let their track record stand out so newer posters dont mistakenly believe that their opinions are worthwhile -
hey buddy you finally manage to recover from that beatdown the tiger king gave your titans
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Oh wow man do I have to Base These Decisions in Reality with Facts and Logic? do you have any other sacred wisdom/generic internet cliches substituted for arguments to share with us the Reality and the Facts are that a divisional rival appears to be out maneuvering the panthers for “another Sam darnold” (like lol why do I really doubt that you have some kind of meaningful on field comparison to make between the two)
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the window for the panthers to screw around, “prepare the roster,” and wait for the ideal prospect to suspiciously fall to them is closed. the future of the division is very much slipping out of their fingers right now. They need a legitimate option at QB and they need one now, and it doesn’t really matter what grade Henry Huddler gave to So and So in his Ultimate Mock 14.0
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that stupid urine stained franchise has made, or tried to make, like a dozen moves over the last like 7 years just to specifically screw us. i don’t get how anyone could sit back and be like “haha I hope they get a franchise QB! Well be just fine with our DOMINATE olines!”