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people not seeing Bryce’s potential start to manifest has gotten to the point where it’s a dogwhistle for whether or not that person knows what they’re looking at when watching QB play
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it really isn’t that hard to find interior line depth better than this but this team’s entire plan has centered around “Corbett will come back eventually!”
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Yeah you have a “show me the baby” contingent here who never want anything to be done, they just want the wins to roll in with the scraps the team has Its why they were so endeared to Wilks. Beating up on bad teams? Losing meaningful games? An unsustainable philosophy? Doesn’t matter. For that short window-he gave them hope that it could work.
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Yeah I mean you’re going to take L’s when you’re trying to build. You can either take them all at once or try to space them all out like we’ve done. lot of people are having a difficult time right now because their expectations were so unreasonable, I get the feeling it’s the same people who were so anti-tank last season. this would be a much better ball club had they simply accepted where they were at objectively last season and pulled the band aid.
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“One source indicated to Go Long this week that some within the Panthers organization approached Reich and the coaches about needing to innovate offensively to fully maximize Young’s skillset. (More on this later.)”
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they didn’t “finish one game out of the playoffs” they fell backwards into a contention game in the worst division in football and would’ve been humiliated by a much better Dallas team in the wild card round-as Tampa was. Wilks’ brand of play not to lose football has had its time to prove itself here through multiple coaches, and people have seen how that brand of football fares when it’s ultimately forced to compete against aggressive teams that can win through the air and score points at will. The league has passed it by and people clinging to the silly fleeting feeling of “success” they had for a few days before the Tampa game (when the team was better served losing out for a higher draft pick) are hanging onto an illusion simply because it was rightfully removed from here before it played out to it’s inevitable conclusion-again. making any determination about the QB is of course anti-intellectual at this point, especially coming off a game where he threw 3TDs in the road with no protection up front. you’re right though-they did tear down what they had. That was the point. They frightfully did not cling to the pretend illusion of “success” from the end of last season and made moves to build something more sustainable over the long term tl;dr they were never going to win the division this season and that’s on you if you had those misguided expectations and are now having to reconcile the disappointment, the point of this season was never to win. If they had committed to this season earlier than they did last season-they’d still have Moore, but they too got sucked in the whirlwind of a few pointless late season games longer than they should’ve, only made possible by how bad the NFCS was
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they would’ve been the same mediocre team they’ve been since tepper got here. Now they’ve got a #1 pick at QB and a coaching staff with at least some legitimately positive coaches. they need to move on from the GM. They shouldn’t have gutted the team’s depth with stupid trades for predictable failures like the Sam darnold experience, they shouldn’t have stripped down the offense in their attempt to get up to 1, and I fear we’re veering dangerously close to saying that drafting Ekwonu over Charles Cross because of the local kid obsession was devastating. in spite of all those mistakes there’s generally reason to be positive long term, but they’re going to have to be creative. I don’t understand why we’re never the team that comes away with one of these steal of a deals. A good player gets dealt away for next to nothing because of an unfavorable situation. We’re NEVER that team.
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Chinn plus our 2nd for their 1st (and an additional pick) is an offer I can see being tossed around. Right now our 2 is a top 35 pick. Their 1 is probably going to be 28-32. They know we’re desperate for a 1, but they know Chinn isn’t worth a one. It’s the only way to bridge that gap. I don’t know that it’s really worth it tbh. And yeah, it would be terrible to watch yet another player who was supposed to be a cornerstone go to a good team and excel. on the other hand I do think we’ll start to put it together after the bye when we’re healthier and the schedules softens, so maybe that 2 climbs up near 40-45 and the trade is more tenable. Then again, players in the 25-40 range are generally similar anyways. meh, probably still getting the short end of the stick. You can’t get so sucked into trying to get a 1 back that make stupid moves. They gave Christian mccaffrey away because they thought it was cute to effectively get all the Sam darnold picks back. Maybe if they’re willing to give us a 1 in exchange for Chinn and our 3rd I’d take this deal.
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Shenault should get more touches out of the backfield with Hubbard being the primary back on passing downs.
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the perfect commentary on the caliber of fan complaining about Young
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watching the same emotionally stunted weirdoes hop in and try to do narrative control after a pretty decent performance from Bryce has been lolworthy
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Bryce continues to settle in and look more and more comfortable. Gaining a lot of confidence in him as the future QB. Fitterer needs to go. The offensive line is horrendous, the Sanders signing was abysmal, and the team has no depth because of stupid trades like the Darnold trade that went as bad as laymen predicted they would. this could be a much better team.
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Smith didn’t get to Dallas until a season after Aikman did. Irvin was there but he was JAG for a number of seasons before finally taking off. if people would come to terms with what this season is they’d be able to evaluate this season a lot more objectively. this team will have high end offensive weaponry around the QB at some point
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we’re going to get one real possession this quarter
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They’ve been feeding Sanders hard in response to the criticism of the signing and the commentary that Hubbard had been better. Egotism.
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lol you can just feel the frustration from *certain* posters at him leading a TD drive
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I almost feel like this is the drawback of the nice guy head coach. Ian Thomas had a touchdown ball hit him in the head last Sunday, the response to that should be moving away from him, not “wow this guy is such a hard worker, let’s give him another chance to prove himself” it’s probably not that dramatic but belichick definitely isn’t finding ways to get guys the ball after they flub that big, yet we’re in a prison of nice guy coaches doing just that
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lol at calling the screen against that cover 1
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take note, there are people genuinely people forming opinions about QB play from room temp hot takes like this “The pictures man, I saw em”
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If Bryce would throw the bomb then that wouldn’t have happened
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the more you hear the play by play guys point out no one was open you’re going to see the damage control weirdoes try to find places to drop commentary like that in
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It has nothing to do with Bryce criticism, it has to do with not being an emotional weirdo whose simplistic understanding extends strictly to “THROW THE BOMB BRYCE ITS EXCITES ME I WANNA SEE THE BOMB” weird to play up some us vs them huddle demographic, especially given that it’s the same contingent of posters who rush into trying to do narrative control anytime an inconvenient bit of data like this pops up, like lol the first page is full of the same predictable posters who logged in as quickly as they could to mash SCREEN MAN ITS THE SCREENS PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN as quickly as they could like lol whose actually insecure
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lol do you have any idea how long 20+ air yards is? Teams just aren’t throwing these passes at the rate that people think they are from their espn fantasy highlight packages, especially not in the modern nfl https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38378450/nfl-death-long-passing-deep-ball-aerial-yards-negative-trend?platform=amp
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Panther Shopping for Number 1 caliber WR, Top Priority
Growl replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Kyle Bailey seems to be more and more convinced that Burns won’t be here after the trade deadline, so probably yeah unfortunate to watch this team get so close to a competitive roster then start stripping down all the talent. Should’ve included Burns instead of Moore in the Bears deal. Offense is more valuable than defense, Moore was already signed, and he actually wanted to be here.