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these are just 40 times? maybe I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying. All those players were better prospects than the players you listed.

but where are the videos?!

Recency bias, all of those latter guys would go behind the first rounders. Pearsall played the majority of his snaps from the slot.

there’s not going to be any “1st round talents” sitting around in the 3rd and there’s a substantial drop off from the second level to the third Lot of guys being overvalued by the outside world

it’s football not the marshal service, players say things like this every draft season

there’s this angle as well, saying something like this has no downside for him and could yield real benefits, but you’re not going to convince people whose in depth draft evaluations have already made decisions

we’re questioning his intelligence now lol? people get so emotionally invested in these draft picks and if they don’t like the prospect things get weirdly personal players say things like this every season its normal

you seldom need “immediate contributors” in the draft and when you do you’re much further along in a build than this team is that’s not why the draft exists

unnamed sources lol why you are sitting on this forum each day obsessively mashing the refresh button if you aren’t giving any credence to any of the prominent insiders that make this forum go? We’ve seen you do it. lets go ahead and mark this post as a delineation point in which you no longer comment on anything that any of the local best reporters have to say, if only so we do not have to endure you pretending to filter out what you want to believe from what you do not want to believe as anything approaching an objective standard Frank Reich wanted Bryce young. That’s backed by the only credible reporting we’ve gotten on the matter. Unnamed sources are now insider journalism works. If you want to masquerade in the fairy tale of your confirmation bias you’re welcome to but you’re going to get challenged on it when you try to spread the misinformation publicly

we’ve heard pretty definitively from outside sources with insider access that Frank Reich was a primary battery behind selecting young your can stick your fingers in your ears and ignore that and peddle conspiracy theories on here but until the individual in question has legitimate counter sourcing then it’s just conspiracy whining to be ignored

Reich had no clue how to draw an offense up for a QB he wanted to draft? this is a pretty terrible post

so here’s the league model: build a veteran offense and once that’s ready to go and is eating your money you get a bunch of first contract guys on defense theres a reason they signed a bunch of veterans on defense this offseason-because once this team is presumably ready to go all in over the next season or two-you can field a competitive team with a well paid offense and cheap athletic rookies who can fly all over the field on defense. anyways the point is that you’ve got to go offense heavy this draft. I’m not worried about defense in this draft. Maybe one guy in the first four picks. Edit: obviously these guys would receive rookie contracts now but would be much closer to reupping in the process overall a couple seasons from now. The big money will likely be thrown at offensive guys in free agency as you saw this past FA period.

it doesn’t even really make sense, Young made heavy use of an explosive vertical threat at Alabama and having one on the field loosens things underneath.

is this meant to be a joke about how the panthers always get plundered in trades? dropping 16 spots for some developmental piece is laughable

It’s better value at a more significant position at a position of need in a good range that will have guys available who got pushed down

he’s explosive out of his breaks, he has a skill set you don’t typically get your hands on in the second round, he uses his head to sell fakes, he has explosiveness to create lots of separation after a misstep. were in the second round, all these guys have knocks against him but he has first round value and offers a tool that you don’t typically find in the second. Getting a Jaylen waddle type dynamo for the QB who played with him.

I’m not really sure where the “he was so great as a rookie” narrative came from. If cj Henderson didn’t exist he would’ve been the goat of that second Tampa game in which he had a number of key whiffs. obviously as a rookie you overlook it but then he was horrid last season. Hes physically talented and the option always exists to kick him inside (or does it?) but I have concerns. He was a key conduit for how bad the line and the offense was last season.

I’m starting to gravitate to Worthy a bit.

without really getting into the weeds on Leggette, the argument that they JUST drafted a H/W/S guy and thus don’t need another one is pretty bad

I mean i thought it was pretty clear from the verbiage I used that I wasn’t laying down hard science but, as you have noted “top 30 at position” seems like a pretty loose definition of success, as does someone’s mere presence on an nfl roster I'm not the type to overrate later picks needing to be stars but I’d define a late first/early second rounder as someone I really want to be a real quality starter

I wasn’t talking about us.

the hit ratio on these high second (and late first) edge types feels like it’s awful, I’ve become really leery of it

the guys 25-40 are generally all really similar, having two picks in that range isn’t too bad and the team is in a position where they are going to have to make up ground on this rebuild, so I probably wouldn’t implode if they turned it down. but an extra 1 to bandage the 2 were missing next season is probably more value in any case I don’t think anyone is actually offering a future 1 for anybody in this class

With 39 in hand a future 1 would be hard to turn down

That’s great but until it’s more commonplace then you’re gonna have a latent advantage for teams that tamper illegally versus teams that don’t. “Legal tampering wasn’t designed to combat tampering, it was acknowledging that you couldn’t fight it and you were forcing the idea of a fair opportunity also I think staying home isn’t quite the same.