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Nothing but the best for him. Glad we drafted him, loved watching him play when a lot of Panthers football was just so damn bad. Special player.

One came from Mississippi...he was likely crazy already, and the 17 Winters in Green Bay did his brain no favors....not to mention the drugs and concussions. The other from California, so also likely to be crazy, and gets to spend 15 years in the same place doing the same thing, but with different drugs. I'd go completely out of my mind as well.

Not so sure. Some states have laws where if you are present during a death, while committing a crime, or said death was a result of said crime, you an be prosecuted for much larger offenses. Not saying that will happen, but I've seen it before.

Really sad man. Ruggs, now this? Fast cars and young men don't mix. Throw in women and alcohol...and of weee mayne.

My hunch, everyone in the top 15 had their PI's calling that DA's office and police dept...bet they have sources in each of the big school cities departments. Not saying they knew, but I bet they had heard there was more to the story.

These guys cannot get out of their own way. What an idiot.

Apparently you don't understand what the word excuse means. Nor do you have good reading comprehension. I certainly don't know what a stan is, and am fine with that. Tannehill does not suck, he's better than any QB we've fielded in about 8 seasons.

We know he regresses when he doesn't have a creative play caller or a decently designed offense...like most QB's out there in that situation. What we don't know yet, is how he would fare under a well designed offense with creative caller. Not saying that he can, but I'm not going to blame him getting figured out solely on him.

I'll trust this staff. If we sit patiently and take a QB, I'm fine with Sam here pencilled in as the starter at a decent price. I'm not off the Carr wagon if he's willing to sign either short term, or middle of the pack starter money, if not, see ya. Sam, Corral, Levis/AR in the room with Caldwell, Reich, Brown and McCown would be fine. Not ideal, but we are building, not built. I actually like Sam a lot, he's been through hell as an NFL player, and just keeps saying and doing the right things. Would love to see him put it together ala Tannehill, but that's a TALL ask.

Agreed. If they get to 4, the smart thing is to draft a QB. Sit him for a year and let Love start. If Love goes nuts, you have him for year 5 and the tag, year 5 to solidify his playing ability, or cut him after year 4 and let the rook take over for the next 4 years. The Packers are one of the very few teams who REALLY plan for their next QB. Smart, as it's the most important ingredient to baking this cake.

IMO, you need to treat him the same way that you would treat most "injury likely" QB's. Treat him like Lamar, Vick (mis treated), RG III, etc....hell, even Cam. Get a good vet backup that can get you through 4-6 games per year, build the team specifically to that QB's strengths, plan on getting 5 years out of your 1st round selection, maybe 6 with a tag, and move on. I'm coming around to the fact that getting a 10 year starter in the NFL these days is a total and complete crap shoot. May be smarter to go for the 4-5 year player, and start over again....if they turn into a 10 year starter like Allen, maybe you continue on with him. That's how I'd handle Young.

Watched him at State, then in the pros. Just a total badass. One of my favorites to watch. Glad he's on our side.

Yup, agreed. If it's a rapid fire decision, pre determined prior to the ball coming out....he's fine. Need a 5 or a 7 step drop, and to get to your 2nd or 3rd option after the first slips or is being covered well.....In steps the Sam we all know and love.

McCown, Reich, Caldwell.

Played football from 6 or so through high school. Played at a program that wins a LOT of NC titles...weightlifting class was mandatory if you were on the football team. You were the talk of the town, and everyone knows your name. The two a days don't seem as bad because all your buddies are out there with you going through it together. Then the pain comes. It starts hurting to play football, instead of it being fun. Saturdays were hard to get off the couch....Dr. visits, surgeries, pins and casts start popping up. Pain pills....and this is a 15 year old kid here... Week long football camps during the Summers at different D1 colleges...concussions. Lots of them, probably more than 10 or so that I can recall. I really really hope my son isn't interested. Looking back, I wish I had never picked up that football.

His "instincts" look off, because he doesn't have quarterbacking instincts....he didn't play enough. What I see is a guy who knows what he's looking at, or at least has a good idea of what he's looking at, but if the play isn't executed precisely, and isn't defended as he assumed it would....he's not real good after that. I think that as athletes, it's good to play multiple sports...but as a starting college or NFL QB? Probably best to dial that in solely for a few years leading into D1 if you are that good. Just a position that coaches have made very tough to succeed at.

The teams already know he's small, the "sliding" in the draft has likely already happened. Meaning, he's likely higher on Mel's board than teams' boards. We shall see though.

Icky pick was great, the rest? We shall see. Not a lot of drafted players after the top 40 or so make any impact as a rookie.

Seems like it. Personally, I'd just prefer to try to be the Packers, Steelers, Ravens, etc....learn how to win consistently and take your shots when you get close. Just frustrating.

1st goal. Win the division. 2nd goal. Host a home playoff game. 3rd goal. Win game. 4th goal. Host second home playoff game. 5th goal. Go to Super Bowl. 6th goal. Win the Lombardi. You have to get to goal 1 to have a decent shot at goal 3, 4 or 5. The idea is to keep getting chances to catch fire and get healthy at the same time. I'm All In on winning an Owl, but I'm more interested in consistency and controlling our division so we can get more shots.

No, but the same can be said currently for a 4/3. We will need a nose, and a 5 tech, as well as another pass rusher. YGM may be able to play, but he's not shown enough yet to be a starter. Smith, if he can play, could be that guy, or he may be able to hold the middle. Not sure if he's good, or just a good athlete yet. Need one more safety, and some depth for the line. Burns could absolutely eat in a 3/4.

If this coaching staff and FO love him, take him at 9, no issues there. However, he will need a year of sitting, and likely more. Fine by me, invest in the future....but you need to win now, and we will need a good Vet if we go this route. Rivers sat for 2 years, Rodgers sat for 3.

Ya gotta get to the dance...that's all that matters. I'm ready for a QB that consistently get to the playoffs, period, end of story. Carr does that. One player does not a Super Bowl team make, even the very best of the very best only get a shot or two at the Owl...we need to take more shots. If you want to go trade for Mahommes, Herbert, Allen or Burrow...I'm all in. Trade it all. Moving up in the draft to take Stroud, sitting at 9 and grabbing AR....doesn't guarantee you anything other than a 1st round QB on your roster. Which is great...but that doesn't mean he's good, or will consistently get you to the playoffs....or beyond...but adding Carr does. We need to win, and soon.

Carr strikes me as Rivers, but 9 years younger. Been successful despite the franchises that drafted them. Tough, love football, never throw teammates under the bus, etc....just good guys who play football. I'd love to get Carr and pair him with Corral and a rook. Dreams.

Oh yea. At 9, I'd want a QB first....after followed by whichever....OLB/pass rush, WR, or trade back some.