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You don't bench him. He needs all the seasoning that he can get. Benching him would probably be the worst thing that we could do

Because he's an experienced vet that was always an excellent route runner and has seamlessly transitioned to the slot.

I never said that a WR1 will be out there that I'm willing to pay for (I actually said the opposite), but if an opportunity arises to get Bryce some help, and it provides good value---the key point, then we can't dismiss it out of hand just because our season is over.

There is no point in which you should say "no" to a good value, season over or not. Every transaction is about value. Moreover, if the goal is to ultimately give Bryce Young a legit weapon to aid in his development, there are worse ideas.

Didn't you already say that? Keep in mind that Smith was going to apologize to Jeudy for referring to him as JAG. Jeudy may be overrated based upon his draft position and expectations, but he isn't without talent. Michael Irving and Keyshaun Johnson even alluded to his talent, early career injuries and QB situation, making a parallel with 89's career. I will admit that reports about his work ethic is concerning, but I don't think that anyone can deny his talent and the relative cheap cost of his acquisition.

I don't believe this. We'll get at least a first. Young effective edge rushers aren't a dime a dozen. We'll get at least a first and a second if not two firsts.

I simply have lost faith in Fitt's deal evaluation. And if Tepper is driving this, it's just a continuation of foolishness due to his impatience. We're always trying to rob Peter to pay Paul instead of having some fiscal responsibility as it pertains to draft capital.

I totally agree, but...what I will say is that it's all about value. If we could get a good to great value, then you think about pulling the trigger. But that's not likely to happen at all, and Higgins isn't the player I'd think of that will be a huge difference maker in the long term. I'd much rather keep our assets, and possibly draft a receiver.

Higgins is fine, but I don't see him as changing much. He's a 50-50 ball master, but he's not an elite route runner. I'm hoping that Mingo could develop into the beast of a 50-50 catch guy. I would like an elite route runner. Don't get me wrong, I'll take Higgins, but not at the exorbitant price that he may command.

I agree, but how many young WRs, assuming they are a WR1 or have WR1 potential, are really out there? I don't know if they've talked to Detroit or Houston, but I like the thought of Jameson Williams and John Metchie with Young back together again.

I don't think it's a matter of being told how to deal with losing. Everyone has a right to say their piece, but at the end of the day the Huddle is a football discussion board, not a beat-a-dead-horse board.

But it can help clean up the place, and steer it in the right direction. Moderation, by it's very nature, is supposed to be about keeping things in the middle. It's about trying to steer people from the extremes towards the center. That way, people can express their opinions without being subjected to sheer clownery.

Good points, and food for thought. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, but when you run in the pile, run in the pile, then throw a screen, it's not too difficult for the other team to figure you out. If you don't take shots down the field, that just compresses the field because the defense doesn't have to worry about players getting behind them. Also, I realize that Brown helped develop the playbook, but it has not been fully opened for Bryce. @WUnderhill pointed out in another thread that Dalton asked Reich to make sure that he had more deep balls when they were installing the plan of attack against the Seahawks. Dalton would have never done that if the playbook had been wide open. Moreover, just because Brown helped to design the playbook doesn't mean that the plays that Reich chose to use were being used effectively. Play calling is such a chess game and plays should be strategic and deployed at the right time to have the greatest effect and bring about the desired results. One of my big problems with Reich is that I just don't think that he knows how to counter on the fly. Situationally, he just doesn't seem to know what he's doing with the plays or the personnel. Admittedly, he has probably jaundiced my opinion of his play calling this season, but there is something about "putting players into a position to succeed" that rings true in coaching, otherwise NFL types wouldn't say it. Again, just so you know I'm not trying to be dismissive, I thought your points are good and something to consider.

I agree, but are we really going to act like Bryce doesn't have ample velocity on his throws? He has zipped the ball in a few times, including last game where he zipped one to Hurst. From my perspective Bryce's problems stem from learning the speed of the game, lack of adequate protection and inept play calling. I think that he's gradually learning the speed of the game, as is evidenced by baby steps in improvement from one game to the next. Hopefully the line will gel and Brown will call plays that play not only to Young's strengths, but his supporting cast's.

Butter fingers Moreau. LOL

It's more like you sharing in mine. Neither Ridley, D.J. Moore have been consistent enough to help my team but for a week or two. Jerry Jeudy simply sucks. I also lost Nick Chubb, and Joe Burrow has been highly inconsistent himself. At this point I'm just throwing poo against the wall to see if it sticks.

The Jags are gonna fool around and lose.

First of all, no one said Jeudy was anything special, but that he has potential on paper, is still young and has not even hit his prime, and is highly affordable. Secondly, Adams is not a spring chicken anymore, and is looking for greatness, as well as those huge pay checks. Why would he want to come here?

Not exactly, but it's because Jeff Bezos had the money and power and influence to make it so.

Goldilocks has only targeted Ridley one time. What the hell? Less than a minute left in the 3rd. I was sold a bill of goods by fantasy analysts.

Just as soon as we trade him he's going to turn into a man of steel. The football gods hate us. On an off note, that makes me think that we might want to put Burns in some bubble wrap.

I can appreciate that. I failed to mention Bryce, but he is perhaps a "problem" too, but he's still learning as well: not only is he learning the speed of the game--what he can and cannot do, but I truly believe that he's still learning the receivers (as strange as that may sound). I think that all of it's just fuging with the chemistry of them all. Hopefully some things will start to smooth out and gel with the play calling by our OC and we'll see more chemistry. I can't promise it, but that's the hope...

I really can't say our receivers are bad. I've seen Chark look very good in Jacksonville and in Detroit once he got on the field. What has been the difference here? Play calling? Lack of a true WR1? Probably both. As for Mingo, he's a rookie. I don't see where people are really being fair about him. I think the lack of a 1 is slowing him down as well (along with play calling). I'm not going to limit him this early, but for me his upside was never going to be about separation, but about winning the 50-50 balls with his physicality. If you think about it, that's exactly what Tee Higgins does because he's not an elite separator either (kind of like Alshon Jeffrey). At the end of the day, it's much too early to be labelling him (as JAG or anything really). He's a rookie that needs to learn and grow.

Not quite sure why there seems to be a mood of devaluing Burns here, but I suspect that the proof will be in the pudding very soon.

Thielen is the best slot receiver in the game. He's a different kind of threat--he won't be killing you on the outside--but he's still a legit threat.