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Just the fact that he took his team to three championship games along with being a national champion as well as all his other accolades like winning percentage as a pro and his penchant for upgrading programs in college to a level where they've never been (or really have no business being on) should make anyone at least satisfied for him to be their coach at the pro level. If you can look at all that and toss it out the window, or just overlook it period doesn't really seem like credible analysis to me (like there's something else that must be going on), but you are very much entitled to your opinion.

Harbaugh is a champion. Owens should've been one---he came close.

Sometimes overthinking things leads to terrible results...We should all know that by now. Harbaugh is the best option. When you're looking at him take the Chargers or the Commanders to the Super Bowl in two or three years while we're still spinning our wheels, don't say that you weren't told.

No, that doesn't exactly mean "not at all," but even if you believe that---and you want to get all technical---you can say that about anyone. That being said, you should be looking at who gives you the best chance to turn your team around, and win, based upon track record. Based upon that, Harbaugh is a better answer than anyone on the list. His results are not theoretical. He has done this on every level.

First of all, I was referring to how many see Harrison. I don't believe in sure-things coming out of college with at least some proof on the professional level. I've already said what I need to say about what I and others deem a true WR1 to be. If you don't agree, tough.

Harbaugh is as close to a sure-thing as any football coach on this planet.

So, now you're questioning whether people think that Harrison can be a generational receiver. Noted!

Trading down has everything to do with gaining draft capital AND getting Harrison whom many think can be generational (i.e., a true no. 1).

That's great. He's a good football player. We were stupid to give him up considering what we got in return. But let's not act like there aren't people who believe that the Bears should trade down and take whom many believe is a generational talent (i.e., Harrison Jr.).

There is always a "#1 in an offense," so that's effectively a non-starter as far as debate is concerned. That doesn't necessarily define a true #1. We may not agree what a true WR1 is, and there may be no definitive "right" answer, but there is a general debate as to what defines a true no. 1. I was charged with being a "hater," and not wanting my ego hurt, or not wanting to be "wrong." For me, I simply believe what I believe, and others obviously believe the same way (whether on the Huddle or not). I've offered links, definitions and explanations. It's all that I can do. My bar is set high, and I'm not going to apologize for it.

You have to put fear in opponents, so much so that you're double or triple teamed on damn near every play, and still consistently produce. You have to be able to make FU plays when the whole world knows the ball is coming to you, and yet the opposition can't do a damned thing about it because of your route running and ability to get open, even when the game is on the line. When you are a true WR1, everyone knows you're that guy, without question. No excuses about the defensive scheme, the man (or men) on the other side of you, the QB who's throwing you the ball...you affect the play of others---your teammates and the opposition---with your very presence, particularly when the game is on the line and your number is called. The opposition just doesn't respect you, they fear you.

Not true. There are plenty of people who think that there are only a handful of true ones in the league,. There are also people that consider the main receiver on a team a "one." Like I explained in my reply, it's all a matter of definition. But there aren't true WR1s just falling off trees. Moore is not a true WR1 in my opinion, and likely others' opinions also. Moore has been a good to very good receiver in spots, but has never been in the top echelon of receivers during his time in the league, or in league history. "Every team has a WR1, but there are only about six to eight true number 1 wide receivers in the NFL at any given time – and it looks like the Jaguars have one of them." https://www.google.com/amp/s/lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2023/08/18/jacksonville-jaguars-wide-receiver-calvin-ridley/amp/ ------ "I was listening to The Ringer NFL podcast and Mike Lombardi claims there are only 3-4 true #1 guys as receiving threats." ------ Over the past few months, I’ve asked coaches and evaluators around the NFL what makes a true No. 1 wideout in their minds. Some of their answers were as nuanced as the receivers themselves, but their input provided a framework for categorizing the top wideouts. “A No. 1 receiver to me is someone who can take over a game, someone you need to double-cover the whole game,” a general manager said. “Like Julio, you have to have a safety over him the whole game, and the minute you don’t, he is going to run by you and take it to the house.” Another GM thought true No. 1 receivers should be able to win matchups on the perimeter while showing enough versatility to play effectively from the slot as well. “He has very good speed, at least,” this GM said. “Not necessarily always size, but the athletic ability and explosiveness to change a game.” And a third GM said true No. 1 receivers must be able to beat zone or man coverage. “To be a No. 1,” this GM added, “you have to be able to make contested catches because we have to be able to throw the ball to you when everybody knows it’s coming.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/1262373/2019/10/09/who-are-the-nfls-true-no-1-receivers-coaches-and-evaluators-weigh-in/%3famp=1 ------ There are other articles and other opinions, but suffice it to say that the bar for a true WR1 is generally higher, not lower, for NFL types, while fans on message boards can be more generous and inclusive of second tier guys.

The Panthers better think long and hard before they pass up any QB.

Ain't got anything to do with ego. There are young receivers who thrive double-team or not. Moore just ain't one of them whether you, or anyone, admit the truth or not. Moore needs help, and always has, whether you, or anyone, admits the truth or not. And Moore is still not the route runner that superior receivers have been, whether you, or any Huddler, admits it or not. These truths do not make him an invaluable receiver, but it does mean that Jefferson, Chase, Hill, prime Kupp, prime OBJ, Smitty (prime or not), Andre Johnson, prime Mike Evans, prime Nuk, Antonio Brown...he's not.

This stream from Germany is amazing...

That should probably do it.

You can't keep not scoring if you're Washington and expect to win.

Penix has been markedly un-Penix-like tonight. Let's see if he can get surgically accurate when it matters.

Not going to get too invested in this. Fitterer was supposed to be this and that, but sucked. We won't know until whoever it is is hired and moves begin to be made.

Like I said last week: hire James Joseph Harbaugh, and all will be forgiven.

Meh. If I hated him so much, I wouldn't have drafted him in fantasy football the last couple of years. Furthermore, you can say what you want, but it's all a matter of definition, and it always was. Some of y'all throw the #1 label around so casually, I guess there are 20 in the league. Some receivers like Moore need help to maximize their impact. Some guys, like Smitty, make their impact felt regardless. Double team, even triple team him, he still ate. You will never say that about Moore. Good, not great, does not equal hate, it just means my expectations are higher than yours.

Smitty? Moore? One is great, one is good. I'll let y'all figure it out. And don't make excuses about passers, QBs, blah blah blah. That's what WR1s do: they produce on a consistent basis regardless.

I'd be unpleasantly shocked if our new staff doesn't get Bryce some real competition in here. No HC worth his salt is going to accept this job if Bryce is being forced down his throat. If Bryce is subject to legit competition, how many people think that he'll actually win?

You should include pressure rate as well. But, yeah, from the eye test alone, I think we're simply better off trading him to the highest bidder. He's not a top rusher, and that fact has shown up better than he does on every down.

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