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And don't get me wrong @Ricky Spanish I get what You're saying, but you're essentially speaking in absolutes, like it's a sin to invest in a QB while you have a QB. I don't agree with that notion.

I disagree. You draft the BPA. If he happens to be a QB, then sobeit. You shouldn't willy-nilly skip potentially talented signal callers because you're "not a QB away." You should build as the players come. Moreover, Young arguably regressed towards the end of the season, not got better.

Even if I believe that Young can be a starter, is his ceiling that of the first overall pick? If the answer is "no," we're wasting time IMO. We're hoping that in a perfect world that we'll be able to build a team around him and drop someone else in to get the job done. That rarely works as planned.

With the hiring of Dan Morgan and Dave Canales, we have been put on notice that the priority now is to "fix" Bryce Young. Well, that begs the question, "Can Bryce Young be fixed?" Well I have another question? Considering Young's historically bad season, shouldn't we at least consider drafting another QB if one happens to fall, or even keep our minds open to some Bryce Young insurance on day three when some undeveloped talent is available? BPA shouldn't take a backseat when Young is driving the bus. Look, I get that "fixing" Young would be the absolutely best case scenario. I am skeptical it can happen based on what I've seen of his physical limitations, questionable mechanics and shockingly---and I say "shockingly" because he was billed as a processing savant---terrible decision-making. And I'd add that I have never seen a a Panthers QB with such a lack of pocket presence and a lack of self awareness about one's escape-ability from that pocket in my life. Some believe that we have to invest another entire season into "fixing" Young simply because we invested a king's ransom to move up to acquire him. I do not believe that he should be the defacto starter. I believe that he should have some legitimate competition with the caveat that it's young competition (pun not intended). If he beats out a young blood, then fine. But I hardly see it as a given, given Young's deficiencies, if the competition is real and not a dog and pony show designed for optics. I just am not ready to voluntarily hand the reins back to Bryce, I don't care how much we spent on him. He needs some competition, and we need some insurance---an extra shot of hope (or just extra shots)---after the worst season and team in franchise history. I get allowing the tank to take place naturally, and grinning and bearing 2024 to get to 2025 and all that, but I just can't cosign and accept another awful season without at least making an attempt to obtain some more draft picks and get a QB with potential to push Bryce to higher heights, or to the bench. We'd be in a better position for 2025 if that were to happen as well.

Sure, we could've hired "that bear," for example, so you're kinda stating the obvious. Neither Morgan or Canales got any interview requests anywhere else. Of course they weren't the only ones that we could get, but they were likely the best we were going to get considering the situation. Tepper's desire to fix Bryce, ergo Morgan's desire to fix Bryce, ergo Canales's desire to fix Bryce, is arguably the best thing that could happen to the Panthers moving forward...if Bryce can be fixed, which some people don't believe, or at least are highly skeptical of. That, along with the other obvious parts of this train wreck were never going to be attractive to the most attractive candidates. It was already reported that the Panthers were concerned with the optics of the situation and didn't want to look like abject idiots whom everyone was turning down. I don't necessarily believe that Morgan and Canales were our first choices at their respective positions, but I believe that both may have been the only higher profile guys with real and/or perceived talent that still makes Tepper look good, or at least look like he knows what the hell he's doing. So it was a win-win...at least for now. Realistically and optically, Tepper made lemonade out of lemons regarding these hires. Now, media and fans can't necessarily say that Tepper is doubling down on bad decisions. My thing is, we'll really find out if it was all a farce the day that we have to move on from Bryce (if that day comes of course). That's the day that we'll really learn if Tepper has learned his lesson.

Some are suggesting that Campen and Tabor are gone due to treachery that occurred during Reich's short tenure. Everyone gets their comeuppance.

If I have to report to my Supervisor's boss, I've likely fuged up in a notable way. Just saying. Thank goodness I basically only see him twice a year, at the stupid annual meeting and at the end of year luncheon.

Well, Tepper has put the easter eggs out in the open for all us little kids.

Now that makes more sense, though I still don't necessarily love it.

I'm really not buying the Tepper tax thing with an unproven rookie HC that couldn't even smell an interview anywhere else. Moreover, since when does Tepper care about a "cheap rate?" Nah, I ain't buying it.

Yeah, it seems like he would've learned. Why not a three to four year contract?

Is it the fan base? I guess it's good even if it's just for the team.

The long-ass contract makes me more apprehensive. He better be a young savant.

Who are we kidding? Canales should just be happy getting a shot. That extraordinary ling contract for a brand new, untested, inexperienced HC has Morgan's fingerprints all over it. I don't know if that's good or bad.

I hope that Canales didn't make any promises other than, "I'll give it the old college try." If Tepper fires Canales for not being able to fix Bryce, that would really be unfair to the HC and the fans. At least Canales would have a payday. Fans would have absolutely nothing instead of another wasted year of our lives.

I think people are trying to create imaginary narratives about Mingo in order to be gratuitously negative. Mingo's rookie year wasn't great but it wasn't terrible (which is a miracle considering the circumstances). He just needs to keep developing. He can probably be an effective chain mover.

I agree fundamentally, but you gotta know what happens in FA and the draft to a great extent leads to what they do on the field. Not to mention that what was done in FA and especially the draft (including dealing picks" is the main reason why we are where we are right now: the worst team in the NFL.

I'll give you "most in shape."