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I was just fixing to post that if the 49ers thought like some of these guys, they likely wouldn't have been where they were last year or this year. The NIners DID NOT put all of their eggs in one basket, and they're one game away from the Super Bowl AGAIN.

Mingo's drop percentage was 2.4 percent (TMJ: 3% in 2023) according to playerprofiler.com. of course Mingo's catch percentage was low because of all the garbage throws that came his way. Catch rate is hardly a legit stat without context. Furthermore his "True Catch Rate" was 91.5 percent. You are busy comparing rookie campaigns, but fail to acknowledge that TMJ has had many more opportunities to get on the field over three years, but hasn't impressed enough to do so. He was even allowed to cast lines to other clubs, but he obviously didn't get any bites. Moreover, he had better QB play than rookie Mingo (as hard as that is to believe).

We're also not going to win many games next year. Ha ha.

I disagree. Some of you act like a first round pick is the only pick in the draft the produces a franchise QB. Not true. Secondly, it's going to take patience and swings to fill holes regardless, and the lack of a franchise QB is the largest hole that you can have, so you should hardly put all your eggs in one basket.

Hell, there are only two jobs left that I know of ('Hawks and Commanders).

Et tu...of all the people who have been critical from the beginning...They're not going to allow some retread to start over Young at the beginning of the year, unless they've already decided that there's no hope. That being the case, Young won't even feel pushed. No, he needs to feel the pressure---someone who could legitimately take his job from the start of training camp.

I'll give you that. I'll still say that Young didn't do anyone any favors (not even himself).

Young was historically bad this season. I don't believe that would've been the case had we drafted another, but to be fair we'll never know (even though we know). Now how you know that a Bo Nix, Penix or Rattler would be no better Young this season, I simply don't know. I think that you're guessing at best or projecting at worse (due to suffering through Young's terrible season). I don't think I'm better than any of y'all, but I do wholeheartedly believe that the FO can do better by all of us, and not subject us to horrendous QB play by default by skipping on a more talented signal caller.

In that same vein, it is my contention that Bryce played so horribly---admitedly coaching could've been have been a part of it---that he's making the receivers look like they were playing horribly as well. People were trying to talk poo about Mingo---Mingo, a rookie. Mingo didn't look as bad as any other rookie WR trying to figure things out. And I know damned well that Chark didn't go from looking like a pro-level receiver in Jacksonville and a pro-level receiver in Detroit to Charlotte and just turn to sh¡t. I think that our receiving group suffered due to Bryce's reticence to throw the ball on time, that's if he was able to see over the line or maneuver in a manner consistent with hitting them in such a manner where they could catch the ball, but aalso hit them in a manner that could help them their productivity.

Sure, it's good to hear about player support, but at the end of the day, how much "radical change" do you need to play the game at a high level? I guess that my age is showing, but playing O-line is playing O-line (not that he was really speaking to O-line play necessarily), and we need more talent along the O-line. At the end of the day, I still believe that football is about talent acquisition and doing the things fundamental to your position better than the other guy. That goes for coaches and players. I also still believe in smash-mouth football and using the run to set up the pass and the pass to set up the run.

That's not a plan B, that's a hope and a prayer.

The 2025 draft class is looking suspect.

I can't blame you, but I can't lie to myself, I'm gonna watch it.

I would agree if I wasn't able to look at Young in a vacuum...bad mechanics, questionable power, weak-ish velocity, so-so athleticism, terrible pocket presence and awful decision-making. I'm not gonna lie, it looks like we were sold a bill of goods. Him being a rookie, to me, is his only saving grace.

I don't look as an old Band-Aid as insurance, just a backup to Nowhere. We're not going to really achieve anything awesome by letting a retread lead a team that's in the process of trying to rebuild and establish a franchise QB.

But y'all are just assuming that a high pick in 2025 is going to get it done, while skipping an ultimately more talented guy in 2024. Don't be surprised if it isn't 2026 or 27 until we draft someone that's worth a damn, and that's if we aren't in QB purgatory and likely have to spend draft capital and important players to move up again.

I can appreciate that...I really can...but if Nix is the BPA on day two or three, or Rattler is the BPA on day three, if it were up to me we'd really be doubling down on the QB position.

Bryce out there throwing off his back foot and trying to escape the pocket like Cam without the power and athleticism. He's throwing what amounts to wounded ducks and getting downed by finger tackles. And I used to criticize Cam for his decision-making...Boy I was jumping out the frying pan into the fire and just didn't know it.

Look, I know that you're probably right about an investment in a QB (hence the title), but I still don't like it.

They were train wrecks waiting to happen, and they did. Personally, I thought that the Darnold deal was awful. I also wasn't too keen on trading draft capital to get to one (and said so). Tepper talked about spending resources willy-nilly---like there was going to be a paradigm shift in regards to the way we handled dealing away draft picks once he fired Rhule. Then, what does he do? He goes out and not only spends draft capital, but throws in our most talented receiver to boot.

Why does everything have to be "freak out" with you? If course we must wait to see what they're going to do, but in the meantime I'm discussing things that I'd like them to do. Imagine that.

Personally, I wouldn't think that anyone can come in here and win immediately. More than two games though, and look better than Bryce doing it, or push him to look better doing it, would be good enough for me.

I understand, though I will say that the situations are different. For me, the only legitimate investment we've made in trying to acquire a franchise QB is Young---maybe Corral depending on your perspective. The rest weren't really investments per se, but Band-Aids. On an off note, I still wouldn't want any of those Band-Aids.

Building an offense and acquiring another prospect at QB aren't mutually exclusive. They just aren't.