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Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
I personally don't make predictions as much as I inform about someone else's, so I never predicted KB, Cam or anyone. What I did do is support both of them as possible picks, and I have always supported them as players (even with all their imperfections) and especially as young men. I was happy as hell when we picked KB, because at that moment I knew that it was between him and Marquise Lee, and i was 75 percent sure that he was going to pick Lee. And I will tell you this too: i would almost bet money that most of the people who didn't want us to draft Cam didn't want us to draft KB either. -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
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The using of Cotchery as a slot guy thing is a stretch. But let's say that I agree with you for argument's sake, have you considered that the only reason that we have not opened up the offense is because we don't have another legitimate threat at WR that will take it to the house on any given play? Furthermore, I don't see how you can say with any surety that the next receiver that we more than likely draft, pick up or whatever will only be the third best receiver. You don't know that. Lastly, Olsen is not a receiver. The most effective way to use him is when there is another legitimate threat on the field, as that receiver can draw attention away from Olsen (and possibly even KB), and allow him to put in work underneath. There is a massive whole, and there has been a massive hole since Moose left for Chicago.
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Cotchery does not suck, the way that we were misusing him sucks. By all rights, he should have been our WR3. The only reason that I am giving Shula the benefit of the doubt is because Cotchery was the closest thing to a WR2 that we had. Or, let me put it another way for magnus, he was playing the second fiddle, when he should have been playing in the slot.
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Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
Benjamin's drop rate at FSU his senior year was over 9 percent, so I find it a little curious that you added .2 percent to Perriman. Anyway, through his first pro season, Benjamin's drop rate was 13.1 percent according to PFF. It didn't kill us, and hopefully he will get better. Hopefully Perriman will get better if G-man puts his card in. As noted by Gil Brandt, he didn't have any drops at his pro day, nor in the Bitcoin Bowl where he torched NCSU for 138 yards. -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well, I remember people talking the same way about Kelvin Benjamin this time last year, so... -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
No one will mistake Kelvin Benjamin for having the third best hands on this team. Oh, yeah, at WR. -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
Perriman and Hill are a lazy man's comparison. Hill did nothing until his senior year in school, was only a vertical threat, and not a natural hands catcher. He never had the natural fluidity that Perriman has displayed, nor the pure explosiveness and reported chemistry that Perriman had with his two quarterbacks. -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
The only ones worth watching are when they play the SEC... -
Maine's 2015 Mock Draft (Comp. Picks Included)
top dawg replied to OnlyPantherFaninMaine's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't put too much stock in mocks, but I do appreciate the work and information. I also appreciate a mock that is within the realm of possibility, and not overly optimistic. Nice work! Now, I will say that I would rather have Ray Drew than Za'Darius Smith. Drew is big, powerful and athletic, and is likely going to be a better pro in a 4-3 defense than he was at Georgia with arguably meager playing time and use as a space eater. He is just going to have to be coached up at the position, as he basically only uses a bull rush and puts the opposition "on roller skates", as opposed to being an adept edge rusher. But Drew has talent, and he has the juice to become a big problem for the opposition in the pros with good coaching. http://draftbreakdown.com/memberarticles/prospect-spotlight-georgia-dl-ray-drew/ -
As you said, it's interesting because it reflects someone's thinking...or laziness. It would appear that they don't know the team as well as we do---the personnel or the makeup of the team. I don't think that anyone can say things with any surety until things begin to shake out at the rookie camp and/or OTAs at the very earliest. Until then it's just speculation based upon experience with said players, and stats.
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Jarrett Boykin gets much better separation, and that is reflected in his much better YAC. And that's just Jarett Boykin.
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Well, that's kind of splitting hairs. Boykin is a little heavier with a little better vertical and has a 79 inch wingspan versus Bersin's 76 inch wingspan according to strongright.com
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CB will get his chance, just like JB. It would seem like all you Charlettonians would be more excited about a hometown product. Boy, you pump up the little guy, but poo on hometown products who would arguably fit into our offense much better and are larger receivers who some of you swore that Cam needed this time last year. A few years ago, there was some excitement about that hometown kid (whose name I just can't remember) who was trying to make the squad and made a couple of plays during preseason. These days, you just talk down about guys before they can even get on the damned team and compete. Seems to me that some of you should take the emotion out of it---because it's not like any of the guys have been here long enough, or contributed in any appreciable way to have earned such loyalty---and concern yourselves with what's going to make the team better. I have provided valid reasons as to why I believe what I believe regarding CB, but from his supporters all I hear is he is a fan favorite that has some potential. All I am saying is that he is going to have to compete for my loyalty, just like the other receivers on the team (including on the practice squad), and looking at what I've seen I wouldn't bet the house on him to make the squad, much less be our WR3. At this point, he is no better than Boykin, Hill, Mucas or any of them as far as I'm concerned, but if he takes a spot and kicks them to the curb I will accept it, just like I did last season. You didn't hear me say too much about Brown during the season when he was screwing up the main job that he had. This is the offseason---the time for evaluation and upgrades---so Brown is fair game, and his stats and overall game are suspect when it comes to some of his peers. He arguably is expendable now that we've signed Ginn, and don't let us draft someone like Ty Montgomery, Phillip Dorsett or Tre McBride...
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We have gotten used to mediocrity since the glory days of Smith, Moose and Proehl. Wake up, Huddle! Snap out if it! It's OK to raise your expectations, even amid a downgraded version of Foxball. I mean that Ritz must taste mighty good to someone who has been relegated to eating bread and water behind bars somewhere in an ISIL prison, but it is still a damned cracker.
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Your continually bringing David Gettis up is lame because I never had a "love affair" with Gettis, I only thought that he should make the team above the likes of some of the other scrubs that are now gone, based upon his preseason productivity. That's it. But let me play into your lame game. My undying love for David Gettis was a lesson in why I see the light. I have seen the light! No longer will I blindly accept, with a smile on my face and open arms, a JAG at wide receiver. Top Dawg has learnt his lesson. Now in regards to DMo, the story hasn't been completed, but even if he washes out of the league, it won't be due to just talent alone. More knowledgeable men than I about football (e.g., Bill Polian) have rated Denarius Moore pretty highly in regards to the available free agents in 2015. Unfortunately I am not privy to the scuttlebutt between GMs and other league insiders, so I can't speak to those other concerns, only to say that maybe his work ethic and focus may be a big problem. That being said, I will live, and I still have trust in my eyes when it comes to a receiver's physical abilities. As for Corey Brown, I don't think that I am shitting on him as much as I am just peeling back the scales of the fallacy-based fascination that he is so much better than other prospects that we can draft, or even some that are already on the team. Now look at my answer to MV%doe below for more entertainment. Perhaps you will see why I believe that Boykin, whom people are already intimating will be just a camp body--that is, shitting on him---has a better opportunity to make the squad than Brown. That's funny because I've been trying to figure out if people who are so in love with Brown watched the games also. I mean he was active for 13 games and produced 296 yards and two TDs with a paltry 2.7 YAC average. I mean, really come on and be true about the situation, that's about as pedestrian as it gets when I put him on a scale with his peers. I mean, just think, Donte Moncrief played in 16 games as a WR3/4 produced 444 yards 3 TDs and an astounding 6.7 YAC average all while being roughly 40 pounds bigger and 3 inches taller. I calculated his YAC myself and didn't believe it, so I went to get confirmation. Another WR3, Davante Adams, produced 446 yards in 16 games and 3 TDs with somewhere around 4.8 YAC. Of course he is also more of the prototypical size that teams covet. And these are just a couple. I could have added Allen Robinson and Jarvis Landry for example, but I don't want to pile on. Consequently, Jarrett Boykin has a much higher YAC as well, but he wasn't really used for all intents and purposes in his rookie season or last year, but during 2013 his YAC was 5.3. That went along with his 681 yards and 3 TDs. Again, he is a big, strong receiver that fits nicely with a big, strong QB that sometimes sails a few balls high. So yes I watched all the Panthers games, as well as some other people's games. And not only going from my eye test, which I trust, even for the games I didn't see my suspicions and beliefs regarding Corey Brown being not as good as some of his peers in a similar position (much less other receivers in the game) are borne out by the stats.
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Big Frank is watching. He is a forgotten man not only in the Huddle, but in the general media. If he stays clean, then he can and will positively make his presence known. I have been thinking about this for two days. Watch what I am saying.
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Go Dawgs! Sick 'em!
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Ogbuehi
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I am calling it now. Boykin > Brown.
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Looks like someone else has that idea as well. "The Panthers aren't likely to complain about being able to swipe Boykin for one year, though they'll be hoping to get the 2013 version. He gives Cam Newton another big weapon at 6'2" and 218 pounds to pair with Kelvin Benjamin on the outside. If Boykin can stay healthy and Benjamin can display better hands than he had as a rookie, the Panthers may have one of the best young receiving duos in football next year. The fact that they aren't paying big money for either only adds to the appeal of what this tandem could become." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2411560-jarrett-boykin-to-panthers-latest-contract-details-comments-and-reaction
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Damn! I don't see any pussy right there. Get it? I win!
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Any pick that has the potential to add quality depth or be an upgrade, I am all for. I am sure that G-man and Matsko saw something they can work with, so it's all good.
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With Boykin's special teams abilities and upside to be a poor man's Boldin--if he can hang onto the ball, I see him making the roster. Not to mention his ability to be a large red zone threat.