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For those of you who actually think things through before posting, let me just say that when considering the context of trade proposals, don't think of everything in a vacuum! Just like the Rams paid the Lions to take Jared Goff's contract, we might have to pay--to a lesser degree obviously--for someone to take Teddy's contract. I don't know who needed to hear this, but when you're considering the fine points of a trade, remember this! That is all!

Yeah, I heard those rumors too. If some players thought that, they were too pussified to come forward. Miami arguably mishandled Tua. They probably should have let him sit and learn for the entire year. Like I said, he was rehabbing from a significant injury--in the year of Covid no less. Furthermore, no one said they could be Peyton Manning, but to say that they are definitively "awful" is what's really "pure nonsense"! Don't let the reason I even brought Manning up (both actually) just purposefully sail over your head, and put words in my mouth.

I think when you get down to it, you must ask yourself if Darnold is worth the 8th pick--at least that second!

Yep! There is something to be said for being overaggressive! And it usually ends up to something negative in regards to football.

I don't get how you can call Tua or Hurts "awful" with such a small body of work. Seriously, if a coach (some of them HoFers) had taken your attitude or approach, then Peyton Manning, Troy Aikmen and John Elway would've been gone! Phil Simms and Eli Manning would've also been toast. I'm also old enough to have seen Terry Bradshaw and Dan Fouts in their primes. I was too young to remember their rookie seasons through an analytical or contextual prism, but they were both excellent QBs who had notably poor rookie seasons. Bradshaw was awful! But, as you know, these guys got into the Hall of Fame for a reason! They ultimately turned into great players! Tua and Hurts did some notable things in college with their arms and legs. Tua came into the league injured, so he had not only to deal with the normal transition, but rehabbing. I get that this is a now-now-now generation, but damn! Let the guys get in a full season or two of games before going all Cowherd or Bayless.

Ha ha! The Howitzer was certainly missing!

LOL @ Teddy Bridgewater's "checkdown parade"

Interesting! If we don't get Watson, Tim Weaver and USA Today's Panthers Wire have a surprise for us! I think that they're ranking some guys as hypothetical potential trade targets that the Huddle is not really taking seriously. Sure, they mention Wentz and Darnold among others. And, a lot would (and could) have to happen for some of these young guys to become available, but I'd be down with giving them a shot if things just don't work out for us in the Watson soap opera or what I'll refer to as the "draftosphere". You probably want to read the article, but their top three picks for us based upon a semblance of realism and value are Tua Tagovailoa at three, Jalen Hurts at two and...(drumroll)...Gardner Minshew at one! Sounds like dark horses, right? Perhaps! Minshew might as well be on the block now, so I think he could become a reality if Fit and company decide to make it so. I'd love to get Tua. There's plenty to work with, and I wouldn't let an underwhelming rookie tour deter me leastwise from obtaining him if the price is right. Hurts' season was even more underwhelming, but you have to remember that these guys are still young and more towards the raw side of the scale. There's still something to work with though, and the price may be right for the clay that is Hurts. He hasn't been in Philly long enough to mess him up (at least I don't think...even with Pederson's stunt). With that being said, I will leave you with Tim Weaver's own words in regards to Minshew, who apparently has some advanced analytical support backing up his starter's potential. He has to be a better fit than Teddy, right? From Panthers Wire: ...Minshew has started 20 games, compiling a 7-13 record. His NFL production has been respectable if not overwhelming or eye-catching. Minshew’s posted 37 touchdowns, 11 picks, 7.2 yards per attempt and an only-0average 93.1 passer rating. Those stats can be deceiving, though. Jacksonville has fallen on hard times since their 2017 squad pushed the Patriots to the brink in the AFC Championship. They lack playmakers at too many positions to even count, which was the main reason they finished 1-15 this year and wound up with the first pick in the draft. Minshew has a strong rapport with the underrated D.J. Chark, but there’s no true WR1 on their roster. Truth is, he could have done a lot more with a receiver corps as stacked Carolina’s. Some of the advanced stats suggest Minshew’s a diamond in the rough, too. According to Pro Football Focus, he had the NFL’s third-highest passer rating against the blitz this season. In addition to being sharp against pressure, Minshew is far more accurate than his completion percentage suggests and his on-target throw % was among league leaders all year. On film, Minshew has a gorgeous deep ball and plays the position fearlessly, if a little reckless at times. His aggressive instincts are worth encouraging though, especially after the checkdown parade we just witnessed from Teddy Bridgewater. Overall, his game is still a bit raw. However, in the right situation Minshew could have a shocking breakout type of season similar to the one Josh Allen just had in Buffalo. Minshew would be a grand bargain from a contract perspective, as well. His total cap hits over the next two years come out to less than $2 million, which means Carolina could easily make room for him without having to move Bridgewater and his ill-conceived bridge QB deal. Even better, dealing for Minshew might only require one mid-round pick. Verdict: Admittedly, there are other young QBs on this list who are superior athletes with a higher ceiling. That said, Minshew has enticing qualities and has made enough flashy throws to convince us that he can be a well above-average starter in the NFL. With the right pieces around him, he might even be a Pro Bowler. Trading for Minshew is exactly the kind of low-risk, potential high-reward move that championship teams make. There may be no other player who could offer this franchise more overall value in a trade. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/lists/panthers-quarterback-trade-options-sam-darnold-jalen-hurts-gardner-minshew/

And let's at I have 25 years left. That would be at least 20% of it down the toilet.

Just accept the fact that there are probably five less years out of how many years I have left on this earth that the Panthers can realistically win a championship!

First, I'd like to congratulate Teddy. He's a good human being! That's not to be taken lightly these days. Now, to answer your question, everyone doesn't hate high character players or coaches. The NFL is a results-driven league at the end of the day, and if players or coaches can't find ways to win--snatch victory out of the jaws of defeat, as opposed to snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, they'll eventually be replaced, and this is particularly true as it pertains to the quarterback! You can't expect a QB to be loved for his play on the field when he's 0-8 on game-winning or game-tying drives. Teddy isn't some inexperienced rookie, sophomore or junior pro! He has to win at least two or three of those games (and I'm being generous)! You can't miss wide open reads, miss players in the end zone, throw the ball too late into the route--essentially helping to close the window for your own open man and limit production--and generally play scared. Those are the things that I don't like about Teddy the QB! But, I like Teddy the man.

So, you're saying that Trubisky isn't a problem? I've seen him play a little, and I'm not sure that he's a legit starter, much less a franchise QB! I distinctly remember his accuracy being all over the place. I'll give him some benefit of doubt for a suboptimal receiving corps, but he's still been sketchy on his reads and with his accuracy. He may be too far gone now.

They had Anthony Miller, rookie Darnell Mooney who looks to be legit, and Allen Robinson. Not to mention Jimmy Graham. That's a serviceable corps for anyone. Trubisky has problems that may or may not be able to be fixed: "Trubisky still struggles with basic aspects of pro quarterbacking. He doesn’t consistently see open receivers, trust clean pockets, or keep his eyes dowfield amid a pass rush." -Danny Heifetz of The Ringer

Good luck wit dat!

Well, with the bad contracts and Luke retiring, it's not surprising.

If a QB is your guy, you have to get him, whether it's top 10 or top 32. I realize that there are opportunity costs in perhaps losing out on a day-one sure-thing at another position, but if you believe that a potential QB is a surefire starter on day one, in a half of a season or a season, you can't play draft games, you get him!

I'll trust the people who get paid to make those decisions. If they draft him in the top 10, I'm good with it! I'm also good with it If they don't. All of these guys are a risk.

It looks like guys just running their mouths.

I've seen Lance make some throws in tight windows that should've been caught. Yes, he is raw, but I suspect that his numbers will skyrocket with his development and better weapons and protection.

That's true! Like I said, it's to be expected. I think Fields did just fine, BTW.

Football-related questions for a QB, or any football player really, is not some unheard of thing. It's to be expected.

Perhaps for some people.

I will say too that it's not like these guys are giving speeches. They're basically just answering a bunch of questions in regards to the game.

Good luck! I'm still waiting on a Christmas gift that was mailed on December 13th. It's showing up in Albany NY, and that's where it's been.

Football Outsiders has him at 20 if it makes you feel better.