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I wish that I could embed the radio podcast, but I can't. That being said, Greg Cosell is always worth a listen. I think he talks the jargon of evaluators (and mirrors some of the points @Vergesays). FWIW, I'll give you an idea (in my words). Traits are not everything as to what constitutes a QB who will make the transition from college to the pros successfully, but they are highly important. "Secondary reaction ability" is nearly a necessity in today's franchise QB. Here are some admittedly selective "cliff notes". [Basically, listen to the interview!] Lawrence should develop into a quality NFL QB. Joe Burrow is obviously not as strong, but was slightly more advanced coming out last year than Lawrence this year. Zach Wilson is clear number 2. Has great pocket efficiency and is a good distributor. Good feel for the passing game. Has that legit "playmaking movement dimension" Justin Fields "scares me a little bit" in the words of a QB coach he talked with. Issues with "recognition, with vision and elimination and isolation from the pocket...He needs things to be clean and defined to be consistently successful..." Lance has a "...strong live arm, excellent athleticism. There's a "twitch and explosiveness" to his game passing and running. "He's got a lot of traits!" Mac Jones was a good executioner and distributor in his offense. He's a "bad athlete" and has "almost no ability to play outside structure whatsoever..." Kyle Trask "is a backup!" Start at 9:08 https://www.radio.com/podcasts/ross-tucker-football-podcast-nfl-podcast-20962/greg-cosell-top-6-college-quarterbacks-357315296
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I don't know about that. He didn't hit him from behind, and the contact was literally within Greenway's breastplate.
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I don't think that you can measure the success of a blockbuster trade only by championships. It takes many moving parts to win a championship. I mean, if we trade for Watson and we end up a perennial contender, consistently in the playoffs for the next decade, would that really be a failure if we don't win the big one? Trading is supposed to ultimately improve your team and put it in a position to win championships. Whether or not you win one depends on other factors, like how close you are to winning a championship and where do you fall along the spectrum. There are different expectations for each trade. No one is expecting the Panthers with Watson to win a championship any time soon. Many people expect Stafford to be the final piece to get the Rams over the hump and consider anything less as a failure.
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I doubt he's returning. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/02/22/kawann-short-has-heard-from-a-few-teams-since-being-released/
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I like Zylstra as depth, but I'd think that we'd be more likely to consider Omar Bayless as insurance. We surely didn't leave him on the vine. He did enough last year in camp to make an impression and ensure his spot for another offseason.
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In my opinion, the only decision that's really haunting the team is the amount and length of Teddy's contract. I can't blame that fully on Hurney. Rhule, Brady and even Tepper have to bear some responsibility for that. We can debate about anything else, but I'm just attributing it to the business of football, and there will hardly be any long term effects, other than perhaps being beholden to Teddy one year too long, and even that might go away.
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Screw Squatson, Give Me Your Case for Wilson
top dawg replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
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FWIW, I hope this rumor is real. I'd surely take my chances with Jimmy G before Teddy B. At least Garropolo is not afraid to push the ball down the field. Better yet, if it is part of a pathway to Watson, I'm all-in!
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Screw Squatson, Give Me Your Case for Wilson
top dawg replied to RumHam's topic in Carolina Panthers
He more likely wants the sh¡t stop being beat out of him because he's had turnstile protection for the lion's share of his career. -
And my point still stands that a year and a half is not unreasonable to get your bearings from such a monumental transition and undertaking. They're both gone now, and Tepper hasn't even owned the team three years! We have a coach who's been around for more than a year, and a new GM. We're obviously trying to find a franchise-level QB, and we're changing the culture in Charlotte. And, not trying to be a total homer, but they look like pretty good hires so far (admittedly based on a limited, but promising track record)--all in under three years. I can't really complain about that too much.
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The man bought the team in July, and it took him some time to get his bearings. He admitted that he had to get the lay of the land, and learn what it was to be a full owner of a franchise (which I'm sure he is still doing). Building a perennial contender takes time! Like I said before, scorched earth is not always the best policy. Hindsight is always 20/20, but in the real world, you should be figuring out what the hell you're doing before you do it. A year and a half to get the bigger picture and devise a plan is not really that long of a time on a relative basis.
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I fully expect Shaq to be gone by next season, as well as Ian Thomas. If we're lucky, Teddy.
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I mean, I'm sure there is some correlation, but that probably can be said of any position. I just don't intellectually believe that just because you pay a productive RB that it guarantees you to not compete for championships on a consistent basis. I don't believe that you can look at this with tunnel vision. In a macro sense, you should be looking at your puzzle pieces each year and determining what it's going to take to compete.
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Tepper already explained that he had to get his bearings. I don't know what else you want from him. People will whine about Marty Hurney.
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Suppose CMC is part of the deal for Watson
top dawg replied to DaveThePanther2008's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't think Bonnafon is that guy, and I don't believe they do either. CMC has short area quicks and vision and respectable long speed. He can juke players out of their shoes, and it shows up in his first and second level route running on passing routes. Most backs just can't do that. -
I wouldn't give up Chinn.
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To me, that means British Broadcasting Corporation. I guess I'm getting old, because I don't know what else it means. I imagine that it has something to do with XXX though.
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Was last season really "miserable"? I'd say that we were supposed to be dead in the water, but showed enough signs of life that we'll be as good as new--even better--by no later than 2023. In the fall, what are realistic expectations for winning? What is the W-L threshold that will make you feel that the season isn't "miserable"? I don't believe anyone can really answer that question right now. But I'll take a win in the offseason. Unlike some apparently, I can't say that we've ever won an offseason! Last offseason may have been the closest to it. I do know that it's going to take winning more offseasons to get more wins during the regular season--and having two consecutive winning seasons--and ultimately championship seasons.
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You can't win with sh¡t! As for our talent, I think we are and will be a much more talented team because we have better leadership. If 2020 didn't show you anything else, it should've shown you that Rhule and company can get guys to play above their pay grade. I know that so many if y'all are stuck on the first round, but we don't need first round picks to keep the ship moving in the right direction. The Rams should have shown you that also.
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We're making moves that actually make sense! We're cutting dead weight on the field by releasing Boston who really had no upside at all and wished him well. We're cutting dead weight off the field by restructuring Paradis who had a resurgence of sorts as a serviceable center, especially as the quality of the play beside him improved. We dropped KK who wasn't living up to his contract for injuries, age or whatever reason, and are even willing to bring him back at a better cap number (which makes sense, but admittedly the Devil is in the details). We're getting younger, and we're obviiusly letting some young guys get in and take their shot, just like we did with Joe Charlton who hit some bumps but stuck it out and ultimately shined. Just the fact that we actually let competition ultimately send some aging vets to the bench is a far cry from the rhetorical competition we had under the previous regime. I think things will only get better. Sure, it won't be perfect, but new leadership ain't just gonna sit by and accept mediocrity, much less bad play from season to season, or even game to game (it seems). It appears that we aren't going to live in upsidedown contractural-cap purgatory either. Whatever we decide to do, Fitterer looks to be keen at keeping our cap in good health, not only with the literal numbers and contractural structures, but by churning a certain part of the roster (not only the "bottom" part per se) with young talent. Call me a homer or simply premature, but I feel good about the direction we're going. The only wildcard I can think of is Tepper. I don't know that he's the classic meddler as much as he is a keeper of his hand on the pulse of his football team. But, we will see. He's a smart dude who appears to have put smart dudes and adept football minds around him. I can't fault him for any of that. All in all, it's a different, but good and interesting time to be a Panthers football fan. Keep pounding!
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I don't know. But, if you look at what he did last season with Will Fuller and basically nobody, it gets your mouth to watering at what he could do with more weapons. FWIW, I doubt that the cap clearing was all about Watson. We have to get some new pieces in here, especially on the O-line (LB, safety, TE...).
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I'm going to miss Boston about as much as I miss AC in the winter.