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I think it was Robby in last night's interview that comped him with Demaryius Thomas.

Robby is still highly undervalued on the Huddle. Say what you want, but he is.

And we got one.

We need more of this! Huddlers on the ground, and ultimately giving observations is one of my favorite things during the offseason.

I'm like three months younger than you, and I am not an old man, yet. I respect celebrities for their values, or not, but don't assign them any more human value than anyone else for the most part.

I respect Zylstra. He does his job when he's put into the situation. That being said, I can't see dumping Bayless for Zylstra, Kirkwood or David Moore. I've called it; now let's see if I'm right.

That's an old man's opinion. These people aren't paid millions in certain cases for nothing. I will concede that not every social media personality is a celebrity, but some of them certainly are. Perhaps it's more appropriate to refer to Grier as an "internet celebrity" (which has a its own wiki) or "social media celebrity" but it's basically semantics. Tell some of these millennials that Jake Paul and Logan Paul aren't celebrities, and they'll laugh in your face. Tell some of these tweens and teen girls, much less young women, that Amber Scholl isn't a celebrity, and you're likely to get some snarky remarks.

Well, nobody's perfect. At least he was on the bench by season's end.

He didn't hate saying it.

40 time is somewhat overrated. At the very least it is not always indicative of a receiver's potential impact upon the game. Keenan Allen and Jarvis Landry had very slow 40 times for receivers

I doubt they'll let him go to the practice squad so he can be poached by another team. For all his supposed limitations, the kid just knows how to make plays.

Well, I think you just proved what I said. As for overreaction, it seems like you were overreacting by giving me the other day, when I made a largely benign comment about Darnold, bit that didn't stop you.

The article plainly states that he has scores of IG and YT followers. This just happened and is being reported accordingly. I'm just surprised that the Huddle didn't know that Will had a famous brother. If nothing else, it would provide fodder for offhanded humor.

Apparently he's a social media star gone rogue. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz.com/2021/07/31/vine-star-influencer-hayes-grier-arrested-robbery-assault-brain-damage-phone/ I had no idea though. He's reportedly worth $4 mil, a mil more than Will. Just one of those things that may interest a few of you, or not.

He could've said a number of things. We've heard rhetoric, the cat and mouse game, and the spin of nothingness before. But, I believe that's beside the point. The point is is that he was fully on board, and his anecdotes and enthusiasm for Bridgewater were palpable. Hey, you can believe that Rhule is some powerless puppet that has no say-so whatsoever, but I know that's not true. He's likely as powerful as any HC in the league at the moment. He had more power than Hurney, and he likely has more power than Fitterer for the moment. Potentially franchise-handicapping moves aren't going to be made without his express nod. That's just what I believe.

And just because an HC doesn't directly or publicly deal with players and their agents on contracts, doesn't mean that they don't have considerable influence privately upon the GM and team owner.

I hear you guys, I just don't agree. Let me repeat: If Rhule did not want Teddy here, he wouldn't have been here. Maybe Hurney was ultimately responsible, notwithstanding that there's probably a few reports out there of Tepper stating his vision for a management structure and hierarchy of the team and Rhule's place in it, I'll give you that. But nothing was going down without Rhule's approval, and Rhule was an undeniably strong believer in Teddy (so much so that it probably led to such an asinine contract). Go directly to 2:06 if you want to cut through all the bull. Rhule was wrong as two left shoes.

Look. I am pro-Rhule right now. But, if you're trying to suggest to me that Rhule didn't, at the very least, rubber-stamp Bridgewater's relatively enormous contract, then I'm telling you that you're in La-La Land. I don't care about Hurney. I don't care about Brady. I don't even care about Tepper. If Rhule had said "No, sir", then the deal would NOT have taken place. And, mind you, I didn't care that we brought Teddy in, but I did very much mind the compensation, structure, and length of the deal. Rhule was a willing party to Bridgewater's rain dance, and we're still trowing Benjamins at Teddy to this day because of it. I'll give Rhule grace for such boneheaded involvement, but I'm NOT giving him a pass for it!

Yeah, people can prance around like roosters in a pen when they guess right about this or that player, but none of us know for certainty how any QB in this year's draft (or last year's, really) is going to turn out. It's not like we were sitting in the catbird seat at draft time. Burrough and Goldilocks were never realistic for us. And, crow as they might, no one knew that Herbert would come in and look as legit as he did when Taylor (or whoever it was went down), and no one knows for certainty how Wilson, Lance, Fields or Jones will play out. Moreover, no one knows how Darnold is going to play out here. Now, of course, people form their opinions based upon this and that, and someone will ultimately be right or wrong to varying degrees, but still no one can be certain. It just isn't possible. That being said, if Fields (or Jones for that matter) turns out to be in the conversation of the GOAT, or even decidedly better than Darnold--and I mean markedly or obviously--or better than a Darnold-Horn combination, then people have the right to unleash a tirade of consternation and all the criticism of Rhule and company that they want. That will actually speak to errors in judgement or management, but it still won't speak to value judgments about their desire for a franchise QB. I'll give people their time to cockadoodledoo! But that time isn't now. And it's not going to be based upon strawman fallacies, false equivalencies or any such bullsh¡t!

I was agreeing with you until the next to the last sentence. Real personnel decisions, during the draft or otherwise, aren't a Madden game. It's a situational cost-value analysis that sometimes require decisions made on the fly. One perspective is to look at which puzzle pieces will make your team better overall. You can't say that "Rhule clearly doesn't believe in having a franchise QB", based upon the FO not trading up for Herbert or passing on Fields. That's false!

Why, because he began with defense? You have to build a winner situationally, point, blank and period! You can't be so dogmatic about philosophies and theories that you miss the forest for the trees! That's how Gettleman did things. Hurney may have tried to build situationally, but he was god-awful at it on the personnel side (outside of the first round).

Well, there have been reports that draft jockeying directly related to the Saints and Panthers have been a thing! Regardless of whether you want to acknowledge it, human nature as opposed to just business, at least on their part, seems to have played a part in their dealings. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/30/saints-made-a-spite-trade-to-draft-a-fourth-quarterback/amp/ https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-stevens-payton-trolls-panthers-nfl And call it all business if you want, but if there hadn't been some serious gamesmanship on our part, then Terrace Marshall would be a Saint. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/05/08/panthers-drafted-terrace-marshall-at-no-59-after-hearing-saints-wanted-him-at-no-60/ If you think it doesn't feel good to Payton to screw us, and for us to effectively screw them, then you don't quite know how the world works. And, by the way, fug the Saints!

The way we handle Bayless, in relation to the David Moores, Kirkwoods & Zylstras of the league is going to tell us a lot about how Rhule goes about handling things compared to Rivera. Bayless isn't going to allow Rhule to give your JAG a free pass, and Panthers fans--including Huddlers--will no longer exercise mental gymnastics and waste mental energy over why throwaways from other squads are the diamonds in the rough that other teams mindlessly gifted us just because.

Nitpicking much! It's a drill in which all NFL teams do. Every play is not two seconds and a cloud of dust, particularly one that requires the long ball.

You may be forgetting him, but I most certainly am not. He was making legitimate-yes, legit noise in last year's camp, just a continuation--the beginning of a transition--of his college production. Like last camp, knock on wood, Injury is the only thing that will stop him in his tracks. Otherwise, he will make this team. Mark it!