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What does that have to do with all the people that have moved from NY to NC really pre and especially post pandemic? My point is that you are trying to act like there aren't reasons why Mike Williams (or anyone) wouldn't chose NC or Charlotte over NY or NYC. That's obviously not the case in his case (or he wouldn't have given us the chance to match) or the case for the thousands of New Yorkers that have moved here since 2019. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.qcnews.com/news/local-news/study-charlotte-among-fastest-growing-cities-new-yorkers-top-list-of-new-residents-coming-in/amp/

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-york-state-population-2023 I live in the real world, dude.

While I belive that he wasn't the best value and that we had a number, let me just say that we don't appear to be in lose-now mode either.

I know that prices are rising like crazy in Charlotte and all over Carolina, but the cost of living in NYC is crazy. Why do you think that there are so many New Yorkers migrating down here? And ,believe it or not, some people don't want to live in NYC. And, Aaron Rodgers might be just an old, broken down QB coming off an Achilles injury. Some people aren't attracted to that. And Bryce still has some cachet with the players. Not everyone believes it was mostly his fault that we bombed last season. So much for resting your case.

Yes, I know that a tweet was posted in the Williams thread, but this is something that doesn't need to be buried---hell, the thread title was old news--- for several reasons. "Rumors have surfaced that Mike Williams, despite being open to a visit with them, did not receive a matching offer from the Carolina Panthers" https://clutchpoints.com/nfl-rumors-panthers-shocking-mike-williams-decision-prior-to-jets-deal First, In general, it indicates that the FO is at least being thoughtful about it's decisions (and not necessarily willing to pay top dollar for guys that have a notorious injury history and so-so results). Secondly, I'd say that they're expressly considering that some of the receivers that may be available to us may simply have more of an impact, if not immediately, in 2024 than Williams or some other guy in free agency. Third, I'd say that this would probably lends itself to more of a possibility of double dipping at receiver at 33 and 39. Lastly, it may be a sign of Morgan putting the brakes on Canales getting everything on his wish list (David Moore was likely a condiderable fallback), in order to keep that money for Jadeveon Clowney. I mean, I'm being more speculative here, but who was more important to hand to the Jets, Williams or Clowney? Ejiro has to get some love too. Morgan may make it happen. Oh yeah, and so much for nobody wanting to come to Charlotte... Those are my thoughts. What are yours?

I believe that what Smitty has to say will be respected, but that it will be one point of evaluation among several. Unlike some, I may give him more credence (especially as it pertains to his analysis), and suspect that some on the Panthers will too, but I don't believe they're just picking who Smitty likes. All that being said, there's a lot to like about Legette. It's going to come down to why one believes that there was an explosion of productivity in what amounts to his Super Senior year, and whether one believes that Legette's traits will translate to the NFL.

I think that it's all going to depend upon pricing. If customers perceive that value is there, then maybe they'll go for it. I am somewhat interested in a DTC approach, but I'm not interested in paying a lot for content (or similar content) that is free. All of the technology advances were supposed to make things more economical for the consumer, but things like YouTube TV, Direct TV and cable in general, as well as online and wireless services, seem to be providing less value to me. As long as that's the case, I'll pay the decidedly exorbitant price for Internet only and listen to free streaming via radio apps and watch free content across social media. These cable companies and apps that provide services that I have to pay for can kick rocks. They take EVERY opportunity to raise our prices when advances in technology makes things cheaper for them. I currently feel compelled to pay Spectrum for Internet, have had Netflix since they mailed DVDs because I like their catalogue and its convenience. And that's all I personally pay for. Now of course my son pays for Amazon Prime (which allows another person in the same household to share the service). I probably would pay for Prime if I had to (but they're getting annoying with ads), and my wife has been making noise about getting Walmart+ (but apparently tips are expected which has helped me stave that off). Between Netflix, Amazon, social media and a few other sources that I'm privy to, I have plenty of content, including sports content. ESPN radio is currently free (with adds) on TuneIn and Iheart Radio. I'm not interested in paying any more than $10 per month for streaming apps, and I don't believe that I should have to pay any more than $30 for cable or cable-like streaming services that include ESPN or NFLN. Seeing that none of that is happening, they can all kick rocks. Value (and really "principle") is the name of the game for me. Oh, yeah, I also pay for PlayStation network, but with their price increases, I might kick them to the curb as well. A gaming PC and Steam seems like it may be a better value at this point.

I listen to ESPN radio basically every Monday through Friday in the mornings and sometimes afternoons. Seeing as I've cut cable years ago, I can't speak for TV.

Well, injuries are a part of it, and always have been, so you shouldn't talk in absolutes. Like, Brady came in when Bledsoe was injured also, and so many others.

Did Brock Purdy have to sit for years?

I'm just refraining from doing it unless one of the top 4 would fall which I really can't see happening. Too many teams may target receivers, including a few late, like Pittsburgh, Detroit and Baltimore I wouldn't put it past Houston to draft another receiver either.

I was thinking an upgraded version of Cooper Kupp.

The length of time it took him to break out is a concern, but on the other side of the coin is that he did break out once given the opportunity, and not in a small way. Not sure how you can't see him as a game breaker or playmaker; from what I've read, it's hard not to see him as exactly that. One draft profile (or two) that I read explicitly said that Legette is a big play waiting to happen, and one play away from winning the game. Moreover, I said that Tee Higgins made 50-50 balls more like 70-30 Well, Legette has that trait right now (on an off note, someone actually used my "70-30" term in one of their draft profiles or articles on Legette, but I believe I used it on the Huddle first). Legette is a bully ball demigod. The only reason I don't call him a jump ball god yet is because he isn't in the NFL. It's just something to think about. I don't know what we're going to do, but I know that Kiper's latest mock has Detroit taking Legette in the first. I do know that if he's somehow there at 65, someone needs to break their ankle getting the card to the podium.

Not that you have to take Kiper's word, but remember that he has relationships with plenty of scouts and plenty of execs. https://www.si.com/college/southcarolina/football/xavier-legette-projected-as-a-first-rounder-by-mel-kiper-jr

I don't know how "major" it is.

I don't particularly go by NFL.com because the info is dated (at least a lot of the time, and I've seen a year old before). I would also say that X has strengths that would at least lead to a floor that's higher than many. One scout said that his ceiling was second to none.

The team right ahead of us might want him...X and Pat might be an eventual problem.

I've looked at his catches. He absolutely does get open, even on some of the jump ball catches. Those aren't easy. But he's more than a jump ball guy. And this is not to say that he doesn't need polish, but he can absolutely get open. He just needs more consistency and to be coached up.

Some guys are just gamers. X strikes me as a gamer. I'll take a bully ball catcher. Honestly, that's Tee Higgins' calling card.

There are even more questions regarding Coleman's ability to be an X considering his lack of speed. I'm not going to post his strengths and weaknesses here (from the 33rd team which I find are critical, but probably fair), but he has more questions as to whether his traits will translate to the pros. https://www.the33rdteam.com/keon-coleman-nfl-draft-2024-combine-results-scouting-report-for-florida-state-wr/

Some of the things you say may have merit, but it seems as though you're making it sound worse than it is. "Short arms and small hands," but yet X is still a bully at the catch point. Scouts do tend to question his lateral agility, but not his speed or quickness really. https://www.profootballnetwork.com/xavier-legette-draft-scouting-report-2024/ I think that the next draft profile which is fairly recent is about as critical as I've seen, and it may be fair. So I will list what they said verbatim here: Strengths Thick, muscular frame with a strong lower half. He played with physical and competitive components to his game. Location versatility in South Carolina’s offense. He lined up outside and the slot, including snaps at boundary X. Excellent straight-line speed with acceleration to run after catch and burst to run away from defense on short throws. Good size, body control and hands to highpoint the ball and make contested catches on the sideline. Overall, he caught the ball effectively through contact. He maintained control of the ball with excellent balance. Routes in which he showed an understanding of how to use his vertical stem and strong body to create separation. There were times when Legette showed some sense of route running detail — something to build on. Weaknesses Little stiff and straight-line linear in his overall movement. He's tight-hipped without much looseness in his cuts. Change of direction is not a strength. At times, it limits his ability to make quick explosive cuts at the top of the route stem. Needs refinement work vs. press coverage. He comes off the line too upright, which limits short-area quickness. Did not see much detail or refinement in his route running. He relied on size and speed without needed technique. https://www.the33rdteam.com/xavier-legette-nfl-draft-2024-combine-results-scouting-report-for-south-carolina-wr/ He's certainly not the perfect receiver, but who is that's going to be available at 33? However I did read something that said his ceiling is really high. He's going to have to be polished---coached up, but talent shouldn't be an issue. I like how the 33rd basically intimated near the end of their analysis, that it would be smart to put him on routes that would "minimize his tight core" and "maximize his linear speed," and of course that's something that Seattle seems to have done with D.K. Metcalf. It would seem that X is best fit to be an X receiver.

It was essentially unavoidable, but you got me.

I mean, he ain't never been all that, but we need a plus pass rusher bad.

Only the game ones.