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Look at him in that meme looking a lot like a weasel.

Yeah, when you think about it Payton sounded pretty stupid, and like the asshole that he is. It's hard to believe that some people are cosigning it...Not!

Tell me all that when Wilson is in Canton.

Geno Wilson has not and likely never will look like Russell Wilson in his prime. Let's not conveniently forget the fact that Wilson is 34 years old. It's very understandable if his play has diminished, but I think it's kind of foolish to throw dirt on him because of one bad season.

They lost a Super Bowl calling a dumb play. They likely wouldn't have been in either without Russell Wilson. Don't be a hater, give Russ his much-deserved props.

It's just more likely that no one wants to meet his demands is all. It's already been established that he's a great coach, but he comes with a certain amount of baggage. Too bad for us that there wasn't a meeting of the minds, but there's always more than one way to get to where you want to go. Honestly, this is not news in regards to us; that ship sailed the week before last. It's looking like Ben Johnson is the choice.

I might be tempted to do it, but only if there was a new franchise in its place. I wouldn't, like, go back to rooting for Washington for example (or in my case, the Steelers). I might not even switch if the new franchise was the Charlotte Cheetahs as opposed to the Carolina Cheetahs for example. I take pride---I don't know why---in my birthplace and how it's represented. But I'm more a Triangle guy than a Charlotte guy. My peeps hail from Raleigh mostly, but I do have ties with extended family in South Carolina (including the Rock Hill area ironically).

I have way too much paraphernalia to start all over just because the owner changes, or the coach changes, or the team loses. I might not be as mentally imvolved depending upon the situation, but I'm not jumping ship just because things aren't going my way.

No.

Perhaps, but I'm surely not basing it on 2022 and their different situations. Plenty may, but I can't do that without being disingenuous.

I mean, I thought most coaches did this type of thing, but I could be wrong.

Russ has had an excellent career with one bad year. I doubt that he's done, but even if he is, he's in his mid-thrities.

We offered him a four year deal worth 156 million dollars. That's really nowhere in the vicinity of what the Browns offered. It was reported that it was all but a done deal when the Browns swooped in at the last moment and gave him a better contract. Again, I don't blame us for balking.

I can respect that.

Would you like me to post what Google says it means? I know what it means. What we were offering for Watson was a lot, but it wasn't some earth shattering contract, plain and simple. It wasn't setting any fianancial precedents. It was simply a big contract. The Browns gave him an unprecedented financial contract that will hamstring them for many many years to come if they made the wrong deal. Three first round picks is a lot for an unproven rookie, particularly one as raw as Lance. It was truly unprecedented. That being said, they made the deal, and they obviously either got lucky, or their scouting department and coaches are smart enough to work around Lance's situation. It appears that "betting the farm" was mitigated by their smart decision-making.

Sure, I get what you're saying. If he's super smart then perhaps the risk of getting hurt will be mitigated, but he's going to get hit (just like Russ has gotten hit plenty). But, remember, Russ really isn't a small guy. He has a certain amount of constitution to him. Don't get me wrong, if we trade up for either, I won't be crying. I'll just deal with it as it comes. You gotta pay to play in some circumstances. If you want to roll with the big dogs, you have to be willing to come off the porch.

Well, it's like I always say: the Devil is in the details. Watson's contract was unprecedented. What made it so was the amount of guaranteed money. The repercussions could last at least four more years, but probably more. I'm not saying that we won't trade up. That's going to depend upon how much they believe in an unproven rookie. But even if we do trade up, we're probably not going to set any precedents in draft compensation for said player.

You're totally discounting how the person is naturally built and their weight. Corral is naturally 20 pounds or more bigger than Young. Baker and even Kyler Murray are shorter QBs, but they're not really small guys. Young is a small guy.

I don't believe that we're going to trade up for Stroud or Young, and I don't believe that they're going to magical be available at nine. There are too many QB-needy teams at the top of the draft. Tepper has basically alluded to the fact that he wants to be more responsible with draft compensation, and doling it out based on all these unproven question marks isn't something that I think we'll have an appetite for.

No we were not. I am absolutely correct. The actual term is to "bet the farm," and that means that you're risking everything.

Are you sure about that? That's not the way I've seen this phrase used. It basically means that you're doing something that may be ill-advised. The correct term us actually "betting the farm," and we all know that that's not necessarily what you should be doing. You can look it up, but to "bet the farm" means to risk everything.

I don't really believe that they did from what I remember. Even still, the garuantees is really what the contract is or isn't about, and I can't blame Tepper and company for balking.

Tje reason Watson is not a Panther is because we refused to trade the farm for him. Cleveland arguably did, but we'll see how i t works out for them. I'm certainly not going to base the success or failure of the contract based on a rusty Watson and six games.

Yes, but you must understand that sending a trade package does not equal to "trading the farm." If you want a proven veteran in any league, you're going to have to pay them, and sometimes that's a lot. That doesn't have to mean that you're laying waste to everything and everyone else. Mahomes' contract was unheard of at one point in time, but as you can see, they're moving right along.

If you're going where I think you're going with this statement, you have to realize that the Panthers didn't "try and trade the farm for Watson," and that's why he's not here.