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I mean, maybe you mean some of the off-platform stuff coming off funky angles. @CPF4LIFE I don't see a QB struggling to make any throw. What I see is some ballet out there.

Oh, you mean like these?

Young is not a big guy, and I absolutely hope that he doesn't get racked up and ragdolled by guys with bad intentions, and learns to be very judicious about taking unnecessary chances and hits. I also hope that Stroud is blooming Stroud that we saw against Georgia, because he's going to face the same guys with bad intentions, and his efficiency dropped noticeably when facing pressure. I'm not overly impressed with the Underwear Olympics, but I'll give Stroud a smiley face sticker for participating. These are my main questions regarding these guys. Size for one. Pressure for the other.

I know you're being funny, but I think Young is going to have to learn when to stop trying to extend the play. He may be the type that may make you pull your hair out sometimes by trying to do too much, but he's a really sharp kid, so I think he'll adapt to the speed of the pros relatively quickly. It's going to help him greatly that he played in a pro-style offense.

Hell, Vick had a strong arm. Unfortunately for most guys with strong arms, that's not a prerequisite to win championships in the NFL. Honestly it's probably the guys that could process in nanoseconds, read defenses, were anal about film study, had decent protection, coaching and players that made for the best QBs on a consistent basis. I believe that that's still true today.

Elway, Favre, Doug Williams, Marino, Moon: these are the guys who were known for strong arms. Don't let anyone convince you youngsters that either Manning, Brady or Brees were ever known for strong arms. It's not accurate.

I've watched this game. Indeed if you Google anyone of them and their arm strength, perhaps you'll stop deluding yourself. Neither Manning, Brady or Brees were known for their arm strength. Fancy that.

Look at most credible reports. Seriously, check them out. Most of them basically say that although he doesn't have an elite arm as far as strength that he has an arm to make every throw in the NFL. I haven't seen anyone "doubt" his arm strength. He's not Favre or Elway, but few QBs are. Anthony Richardson will come into the league with a top five arm. Most NFL arms are average to good.

Since you're making the claims. Prove it. No guy you mentioned had the strongest of arms. Not one. To say that Bryce Young does not have an arm as strong as them is simply just talk. His arm is in the same class as theirs.

Yes, he said that, but his take came from a different perspective that I fully appreciated.

My bro-in-law works in an office. They have a bunch of pens in a basket in the office with a sign above it that says "Pen Island"

Man, I never would have even made the connection (pun not intended) had you not made it for me.

Kind of hard to say that about a Heisman winner. I've heard multiple players and coaches say the exact opposite. But, you have a right to your opinion.

He's impressive. I was actually looking at the OU game where he got his start (coming in and moving the ball when Rattler couldn't). I thought that he'd be legit from them on. He hasn't disappointed.

Anyone who is being honest will acknowledge that Young's frame is the reason why he isn't the consensus number one. If he were 25 pounds heavier, there would be no question, and no credible debate.

He had to have a place to keep his Capri Suns and Lunchables.

Sure you haven't. I'm not being defensive, I just like keeping it real.

Young didn't do anything out of the ordinary, just remember that. He was the best, so he let his tape speak for itself.

Believe what you want.

It's easy to say certain things. Next Gen stats will parse out the truth, and, even better, his complete game will tell the story.

If Bryce couldn't throw it over 40 yards (legitimately, proficiently, efficiently, smoothly, etc.) I wouldn't want him. Hell, who would? He wouldn't be a round 1 draft prospect, much less a number one prospect. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that fact is just as disingenuous as the Pilgrims giving blankets to the American Indian.

It came from...the Carolina Huddle.

Oh, it's going to appear miserable due to the vocal minority, but most will approve.

He throws off platform, and does it effectively. Hell, that's one of his strengths. Most guys aren't going to lob 50 yard bombs off platform.