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A person reads the Saints Forum (after the draft), and you can't imagine why. Imagine that.

Yeah. Eason? Maybe an inside track over him. But yeah you would think Reich was very familiar with him given the Colts’ situation one year ago. Has to be.

Sucks having to wait your turn. The nerve of those other teams, taking our players. I'd never have moved to 1.1 so this redo is fruit of the poisoned tree afaic but I don't mind what they did with the day 2/3 picks they held on to. I saw and understand what happened at 39 but think Evero was for sure owed a player (so to speak, it was an obvious need), so I am not complaining about who he picked where, before they play a down. I have no clue how staying at 9 would have changed the dynamic so no rethinking it.

It really doesn’t matter who is the face out front, a different human in that job would have done what Goodell has done or would do in the future. Goodell is a smarmy corrupt dude though, it’s fine not to like him personally if that’s your bent. I don’t like him at all, so I would be bent that way.

He’s their piñata. That’s his function. Like the road manager for a band. Paid to be the asshole so everyone else can act like they are nice people.

Yep. I think keeping an open mind on Fitterer for the past. He didn’t create it, I just don’t think I can place blame on him for doing his job in the course of all that. edit: oh yeah, that. jogging stood way out to me. If CJ gets better at playing, trade his ass while the value is high.

Teams take longer these days to get the kinks out, week one is preseason essentially. Week one was always upside down a lot from how things end up too, to start with. Every year. There won’t be any good film of the D at that point they will be going off preseason and Denver Maybe we can steal a couple and hold people off until they get used to playing with each other.

I liked what Mingo had to say. Different than any guy I remember us taking, and has some Smitty type belief in himself, sounded like. Like his measureables, like his tape. I got no problem with him other than we needed a defender.

It is gonna be all about the haul they paid for the QB, and if he is worth it. These other picks are relatively small stuff compared to what was risked there. I didn’t want to do any of what they did to get a QB but if it works, it works. Definitely a wait and see, I think it will be fairly clear by December at the latest.

And it won’t be “just” Bijan. At all.

Tampa looks pretty ripe to be an underdog every week.

He has to show his value for people to appreciate it. I don’t think he has done that, but what he has shown wasn’t good. Just be honest. Without all the damned excuses. It wasn’t good at all. I was pretty surprised at how bad he looked. I don’t think that is who he is either but it is up to him to show it Now. He’ll get a chance somewhere. He would stay if he were smart, all that has to happen is they were wrong about Young. They really might be too.

I can keep up and acquaint myself with the top 40 guys at the most. Maybe I get to our 2nd round prospects but nowhere near the detail it takes. Past the obvious I really hesitate to slam a mid round pick unless future draft picks are involved. That always pisses me off regardless. Who has time to research 200 players? If I took the time I may not know what I am looking at unless it is, again, really obvious.

After what they did with the first pick, people shouldn’t expect magic. We made a hole with DJ where there wasn’t one and the picks of course. But DJ was a big hole. It really is too many holes to fill with what is left over from all that. I am going to focus on Evero wanting Johnson, and they surely owed him a player by that point. The extra risk/investment is pretty small potatoes compared to what was done for round 1, not sweating it. I really have optimism for Mingo. He has the speed he needs and more size than most that can motor like that. Plus, I think he will be a man on the field and his hands are really being underrated by some. He could be somebody.

I think they went pretty far down that offensive road to risk with the business Thursday.

First, he paid the price to get to meddle. It is his right. Whether he does it well or not, is more a question than will he meddle. Of course he is gonna meddle. He has, and will. edit: switching the D, makes it hard to give more to the O.

The thing about this is, if someone sees something that disagrees with a preconception they have arrived at, no one validates the question. There is no respect for a dissenting opinion. Everything is personalized. HATERS! I don't think I had one person respond to a specific criticism I formed from watching Young's pro day. The couple that did, were not on the "Bryce" wagon. No one that is a Bryce, just the first name (like you are a dues paying fan club member), no one rebutted. They made comments, sometimes asserting how great he was, but no one addressed the thing I posted about. That was weeks ago. It hasn't changed. I see it with others. The user tuka something something has voiced well articulated concerns that go ignored or if they are rebutted it is with I don't even know what...just different degrees of dismissive attitudes. But no engaging the points. There are excellent observations that merit discussion and consideration but he is just wasting his time, really. Like I am, doing this, I realize. Enough. Enjoy the draft.

Today and the redefining of words….. hater is a number one type example. I am anti Bryce Young. Saw what I needed to see to pass on him. Was against trading up to 1 for any one of the prospects. Once it becomes him vs a guy that throws a great ball that is more proto sized I am in. Best choice out of poorer choices for the scenario. Which is we paid the premium price, but for non true premium assets. Do the best you can with a non ideal situation. I think Young is fools good, so if I am hating on anyone it is the fervent Young worshippers who call me a hater. Long as we are straight.

Exactly what is going on, I think. The pick was made during the hiring process.

And there will be 11 of them on the field. Not three. Or two. Try this: Take nearly any one of these SEC college players that made an NFL a roster, look at their body and their game at the end of their college career, vs following just one season in the NFL. Which one do you think wins a one on one? College self or 1 year NFL vet self? I may feel okay betting on Young with a top ten pick, maybe. I’d feel really good about making it in the 20s. But I don’t make that bet at 1.1 having to pay so much extra to get the chance. When I say I don’t want Young, well arbitrarily I don’t simply because of his size, he falls outside my okay zone. But there is a chance he overcomes that and also overcomes a suspect arm (in my mind), and I would take it at the right price. 1.1 plus considerable future and current assets- is so far out of that right price range I couldn’t even really take it seriously.

Receivers def influence a QB’s stats. Stats aren’t really necessary to evaluate a guy if you watch the guy enough. Most people here watched a ton of Cam. To me Cam sort of was what he was. Top notch capability, arm strength, threw a pretty ball, all that. Not to mention his other beyond prototypical physical attributes. But claims that he lacked touch on shorter throws, are true. He struggled with that. If everyone watched him, why is it even a question? He was sort of inconsistent, trying to take something off just never looked pretty.

None! Bryce is the man!

Agree 100. I thought more of the people brought in, but let’s remember they haven’t done it yet. Can’t charge them with thinking stupidly, they have to act.

If he doesn’t he will get some Karma drafting a brand new expensive toy QB.

I considered that. There are parallels for the behavior, how it could even happen almost subconsciously. They give him the answer he wants to hear because they want to be hired. One thing I really liked about Wilks was I felt he would stand his ground, and had a strong BS radar. If he were here and behind Young I would at least think some more about taking Young seriously at 1.1. I want to trust Reich too but do not yet.