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Ever since Tepper signed the papers, this has been going downhill every year. Little worse, each season. The ONLY time this team was any fun to watch, for me, since Tepper came in was with Wilks coaching it.

I think Ekwanu has some kind of hearing problem. The missing of play calls, all the false starts, makes me think he needs his hearing checked.

Pretty low to me, after the last 6 years. Tepper has turned this into an expansion team.

Without him going too, it is pointless.

I mean, his middle names alone give it up: David Hoover Dyson Tepper.

Stroud clearly has the arm.

I'll go do something I enjoy that I used to always skip to watch the Panthers game, and watch a streamed replay later. I try to avoid the scoreboards but I'll watch even If I know the final.

I think yes he for sure got the pick he wanted made, made. Starts with the coach interviews, where he found who would and who might not be in alignment with his preferred path.

Well, we’re getting into the part of the year where the rubber meets the road. The preseason is over, the kinks are supposed to be worked out. They have had, under the old system, 4 preseason games and the opener. 5 games. No one ever really know what to think of teams after the opener. Division winners sometimes lose big week one. The true identity of a team emerges in the next few weeks. In our case, so far, the team looks really bad offensively and decent defensively but lost key players. Overall, based on the little we have to go on I believe they fall short of last year’s team. Consider it entertainment, because I don’t know what else we are going to get out of it. Dalton, this week. Damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. That is sort of entertaining.

Damn, that is not gonna help his OROY chances one bit.

It is more like an expansion team if you think about it.

I am gonna say Gettleman was the worst simply because I feel like fewer of his mistakes were because of doing what his boss told him to do. They were his mistakes. These others… they listen to the bosses more. Pretty sure. I went with Hurney because no way I could choose Fitterer over him. It is q moot question anyway, they left D) none of the above, off the poll.

That is a marketing win right there. The Oakland Panthers. In that city.

See this is fishy. They wouldn’t show anything in preseason, to keep people in the dark about all this great stuff they had up their sleeves. edit: but there is nothing up there going by the first two games. So what were they protecting? Why claim that? Etc…

Why do you insist on using the word “vitriol” to characterize questioning arm strength, athleticism, you know… football things? Are people calling him a shrimp? A midget? On here ridiculing him for his haircut or something? That is vitriolic, I am not seeing any of that. And really if it is here it is so isolated you could personally police it as opposed to lumping every person with skepticism or negativity concerning the team’s future with this player, in with simple name callers. I got vitriol for people who want to make me expressing my opinions about football in a civil way, personal. I admit that. No call for it.

What do y’all reckon Tepper’s life expectancy is. BigKat you are gonna be like the 107 year old Red Sox or Cubs fan by the time they win something.

Maybe they had a WR revolt and want some deep targets. Which Frank wont call with his baby in the game yet. Because he doesn’t think the OL will protect him on longer developing routes? Okay I know that is a stretch but I am suspicious of the reasons we shorten/compress the field in the passing game. Dalton, come one down.

Most of that is me. I feel that. I dont get why people are calling criticism “vitriol” at Bryce Young. If I have any of that is if for the idiots that crowned him before the takes an NFL snap and they did it starting well before the draft. And they gloat that him being picked is affirmation of their football intelligence and just crow more. Any criticism of the pick, the player, they go straight for the fan card. Unless you praise it all, you are not a fan. Or you are stupid because you don’t follow the ‘smart’ crowd (don’t share their opinion). And I oretty much think they are stupid, for being so homery and close minded they won’t even legitimately consider the objections to the player (again, not the person). This is the type of stuff you get if you speak on it: No your eyes didn’t see a lack of velocity, everybody says his arm is plenty good for the NFL. That’s what the attitude is towards a question if his arm strength. Same with the athleticism questions. SEC is as good as the NFL that is proof enough. He did it there against NFL players! (prevailing attitude of Young supporters in an argument, who never seem to consider there are far more non NFL players on the field in probably every one of those games). I have not called him a bust, I am not sure he will be one. I think if he can learn how to time his throws and can survive the abuse he can be an average starter, maybe, which isn’t chopped liver. The thing that was so crazy or objectionable to me is the value they assigned to him, because I adamantly believe he is not the type of player that you give that up for. He will have to prove that before I accept it, so Super Bowl, consistent playoffs, deep into them, etc). I think he was a late 1st gamble at best. He could succeed generally IOW have a career but I just cant see a career profile commensurate with the currency used on him.

To the above post, people hear that preseason the offense looks horrible because they are afraid of showing anything. Season comes, what were they afraid of? Nothing to see. Nothing at all to see really. Hey nj up there, Fox mailed 2010 in, in a hissy fit tantrum type of reaction to not getting an extension and realizing he was on the way out. Had he had integrity and quit, he keeps respect. He stayed and treaded water and dgaf basically.

Yeah I was gonna say on Campen, I haven't researched his employment history but situations where having to change jobs is the outcome are not always the same. It is not always because the employee isn't doing a good job though sure, that could have been in the mix too. He got hired again every time, in the NFL so he must be doing okay at least. The players like him, the OL last year came together nicely. And fwiw I am not one rating them top five or anything like a lot of people were, but there was steady progress. As I believe there will be this season. Specific to here and now I can’t see where he is a source of any dysfunction or issues, and there are injuries here early hampering the development of cohesion and some young players. Bigger fish to fry in the repair of this team afaic. I don’t know enough about him to make a claim on anything but I looked at the hiring of Brown with some questioning type of reactions, like it was weird that a Running Back is brought in to develop a QB offense. Like, what has he done? I couldn’t immediately see why he was a ‘great get’. Not that he isn’t but I am not sure he called plays in LA and he was a RB and where/how does that fit in here with all the other hires which are QB passing game focused. I guess I just didn’t immediately understand him in that role. Still feel unclear. Which. makes me curious as to why people are clamoring for him to call the plays. Someone want to correct the info here and say what play calling experience and QB expertise he possesses?

Pie for the incisive boil it down to the bottom line. You don’t fix the team without fixing that first. Tepper has to have his security clearance pulled and we will get him on the “need to know” list. edit: I think Fitterer is okay enough if the football people are in charge. There is no way to assess his responsibility level for the problems that were created through personnel and contract missteps. The execution of a course of action? Yep he owns that but if the course wasn’t his doing, I don’t think I punish him for another’s bad thinking.

1 for 3. Wilks was a keeper. Supposed to be a little humorous but probably pisses someone off. Heh hope not.

I respect and appreciate Shaq Thompson. He has been a great Panther that had to live in the shadow of some pretty tough acts. Is judged alongside TD and Luke, where at the same time nearly every guy that comes through for the next 20 years will have a tough job measuring up to them.

Crap. Won't allow an edit, but I guess I read 1.4 as 1.8. Not with my glasses on! Time for new ones. Sorry. That is nothing.

Campen does, and we are in year two there.