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That is the mark of a demanding perfectionist if you want me to be honest. Is that what you want to be? That’s who you are? This is why I would not discuss Rhule blah blah with you early in the year. It wouldn’t be a discussion it would be a lecture, or a point scoring exercise. For what freaking purpose? So you can feel good about yourself, that you were smart enough to find JR’s every fault? Like with Hurney (but not Gettleman) every damn thread his name came up People know what is true btw. They know what you have showed them. It is all there. Imma stop now. Just saying when the discussion veers a certain way, you might look to self scout.

What the hell do yo7 want from people? He brought a team to this NFL no man’s land split between teams 100s of miles apart in different directions. I had an impression you were old enough to remember all of that. I don’t really sweat the NFL now, it is a distraction, but it was the best thing that happened in the Carolinas since they split into two states in my book. And the second year, we are where? Man I hated that I worked in Atlanta those first two years because the only games I could see were vs Atlanta and because we were in the NFCW a SF game or two. because SF was the poo then. There were many good times. Many. The team never had a stretch like the Entire Tepper Era has been. Granted the Cam contract year coming and his injuries hamstrung us as far as planning but damn, JR had noth8ng like this.bHe was a former player. Take the generation gap out of it (which I understand is particularly hard for some people), and yep he meddled. Hurney was not that bad all by himself. Neither was any other GM. 90% of NFL owners meddle. It’s their toy and their right, but it makes it hard to judge a GM. All of that taken, the thing with the sons, deciding not to leave the team to them, is when things started declining but we had Cam in his good years for a lot of that. Still, add it up. And in closing, I did not say the best, great, etc. I will stand on pretty good though. He was a guy that answered every fan letter, in cursive! Ask me how I know. Whatever else people say he was, he was this guy too. Was *I* ever frustrated with, and by him? What do you think? In case you guess wrong, hell yes. Cheap in a lot of ways. Stubborn. Old fashioned. Same stuff people say about most old folks ha ha. But we are having this discussion as a direct result of his work. Tepper has a long way to go. I wish he would go a long way away. Oh well lol. And I am gonna put a preemptive statement just in case because ai know how people are: my Tepper opinions have zero to do with JR being forced to sell. I am not that obsessed. In summary: JR=pretty good most of his tenure, I would have preferred that whatever his crime was, was put out there for us to see, Tepper can’t carry his shoeshine kit as we used to say. So far. Maybe Tepper’s arc will take a different trajectory and will begin to ascend. We can only hope.

Familiar behavior, the negotiations are underway now, but I thought Tepper was in concert with the leanings of the DOJ. Why would they go against him?

And I guess those parameters allow a player to be called Pro Bowl, if they make it a single time and never again. Counts the same as a perennial pro bowler.

They have really put out some ugly football, all year. Lots of it.

You could be right. And I wasn’t there to know if he did or didn’t say whatever he is alleged to have said. Which is really my point. If I am gonna condemn a guy who did so much for the football fans in our area, and was a pretty good owner for a while before things kind of went wrong, if I am gonna condemn him I want to know the facts and make that decision myself.

Yes actually, shamefully, he did. I have zero respect for him. edit: as far as JR, sorry. I have been sexually harassed at work too by a gay supervisors at 20 years old. You dea”with it or quit and get a different job. Way of the world. as far as the racial stuff, I am still waiting to hear what he said, exactly, and to whom. Not defending it but how can you defend or condemn if you do not have the details?

And Goodell burned the tapes.

I am looking for the play I saw him loafing like hell on, on Sunday. For a balanced POV.

(Edit: this is for the offensive HC people) I just had a football epiphany: we need to hire Tom Brady to coach the Panthers. Let Leftwich coordinate. Or not. Doesn’t matter who really. Just get him someone he can work with. Brady is about the ultimate competitor. I have never posted anything praising Brady in my life trust me I hate the Patriots and their ‘way’ and all of it. But I watched him drive TB for the late win against LA and that guy knows offensive football. He is a man amongst boys on the field as far as understanding the game in real time. You want clock management and 2 minute efficiency to the finest degree, not HC buffoonery? I think that is your man. Everything he does on the field seems purposeful. Thinking a tstep ahead. I think he may be at a crossroads and if he jumps the football lifer way it could be the right time to move. He can’t play forever. He knows it. If he doesn’t go back with Giselle it ain’t like there are no hot female football fans in the Carolinas but I digress. If he doesn’t give up the football life he probably can’t go back to his marriage. If there is a window there when this transition is in process we need to stick our heads through it and get with him. Okay I am nuts right? I’d do it if I had the chance.

Yeah man there was some loafing that stood out to me. I hope the particular player I am thinking of got his ass reamed, Wilkes ain’t calling their names to the world but you have to think that is getting addressed one on one. That is one thing I like about Wilkes it seems like he will fall on the sword for his guys, old school style. There is something to that. I think we knew our LBs were basically crap compared to what we have seen over the years but it’s still hard watching it. And the sorry tackling. It is worse every year in the National Football League. I left Flag out but they are pushing it

Hey don’t stir it up on my account. I am just a low level fan with some time to kill trying to stay out of the real world. Foreman did a killer job last year and I was real surprised that the Panthers signed him. Pleasantly. But I am no analyst. I rewatch the free replays as I can find them.

Everything is whacked out on the Carolina Panthers 2022 football team. You have no idea what you will see from week to week. It makes it hard to know where the slack is. I don’t think it is Foreman being not good. If you saw him with Tenn last year you wouldn’t be up in his stuff about it. The offense is out of synch. Still.

Rhule. To get good NFL veteran coaches, you need to know some, first of all. Then, they need to know you and have enough respect to throw in with you. I think maybe he was lacking there. That is a big reason probably why retreads do well, they would be able to pull a staff.

You want to attract the top coach? The person who is seen as the most desirable hire? That list of draft picks over 2023-25 would be as good as anything. Better than money, when the money is equal.

I am gonna say with the team selling and turmoil already there I think that keeps Rivera safe, someone has to watch over the zoo. Team is sold they are all out the door.

Walker played good the last couple of weeks. Today he looked like the worst day Mayfield had. Horrible. No, you can’t have your guy break that far down on a given day. The defense, just wow though. Nope. Not those linebackers. Clean house.

You made an effective counter to my argument. 2 wins.

I have said multiple times, never waffled, they should have taken the trade. If that is a weak argument I presented, it was the best I could do playing devil!s advocate. I don’t know why you wouldn’t do that trade.

So, I can see where there are reasons to hold your own, mostly because it would devastate the locker room, I have a feeling. You get the rep of instability as a place to sign. That sort of thing. That is the only way I could argue against it. Someone else pointed out the potential of holding high picks. Use one 1st, roll the other one over into more futures. Rinse and repeat. When those picks come into play in 24 and 25 Burns better have torn it up and stayed healthy for two years.

If the Rams really offered that, we really screwed up.

I think Wilkes needs to show me why he should Not be coach going forward. Because I like what I am seeing from him myself.

He was hitting guys in stride. On a number of throws. They didn’t have to wait, reach back, sky for it, that was getting my attention.

Lame jokes. The effort is appreciated though. If not Bezos, who?

It was probably a waivers type thing. I don’t know the fine points but there is an order, and the 1st team in that order gets 1st option on waived players. When they do make a claim I think they go to the end of the line. A waved player must clear waivers with no claims made to become a FA. I’m not real clear on the rest of it. But there is more to it.