TheMaulClaw

I don't think there is a great coach that is available right now. I would say Payton but the Saints want too much and Tepper is only looking for yesmen. The better question I would go with would be who I can I deal with? If I have to chose between Reich and Wilks I'd probably go Wilks. It's not that I think he would take us to greater heights then Reich but because he earned the opportunity. Smaller learning curve for the players with Wilks, conversely Wilks also has more familiarity with our players. The players love him. Also we got a chance to see improvement with Wilks at the helm. Reich, we know nothing. I would reluctantly take Reich if Wilks didn't find a new DC and OC. I just feel like we all know what's going to happen if we hire Reich. We are going to end up with Carr. We need a coach who can deliver a big time game plan in big games and I just don't think it's out there right now. I know I probably would have explored Harbaugh a bit more.

If we are just trying to get to the playoffs and then lose then you are right. Great hire.

No it's because he has mediocre results as an HC. We also just watched the Colts do the same thing at QB we have done except on steroids.

No to Reich please. No retreads with a history of bad veteran qbs.

I'm leery of your opinion. Turning down a vaccination isn't forcing yourself onto anybody. He never condemned anyone who believed in the vaccination. How did he force himself into the politics of Covid? It looked like he was dragged into it because the powers that be didn't like his view. In retrospect he wasn't wrong. I got the vac for work but it was a hard decision for me and I'm not sure it made any difference in the end whether I did or didn't.

I like Aaron. He keeps it real. God forbid if a man is honest about how he feels. There is nothing he has said that's indicated he isn't a decent guy. All he has done is have is own opinion, while going out of is way to let people know that it's okay if they don't agree. Most of the hate towards him is politically motivated, it's not real world.

We are going to have a ton of money to spend by this time next year.

I understand politically why this would be the move. I believe in the political motivation of being paid off of merit and not because of prejudice. However, If I performed admirably at a job that I had to fill in for and they decided to give me a shot after I wasn't intended to be the hire, I would be under more scrutiny and there would be less guarantees. Conversation may go like this. "We're going to give you a shot at this because you performed over expectation on an interim basis. We know what the statistics are on interim coach full time hires. We want to protect ourselves if we see a decline in production. We're going to give you an opportunity to make the playoffs this year and if that happens we will look at a long term extension, if not we may go another route. Sound fair?" I think it's fair to offer an unproven commodity a smaller deal when you are offering the opportunity of a lifetime to that person that they would otherwise not receive. The reason I use the term "otherwise" is more of an observation on offensive coaches being hired rather then an aging defensive backs coaches. I don't think Wilks has enough a body of work as a HC or DC to really warrant contention in a normal year. Now he did a great job as an interim, which is why he may get the job, but it's very risky and if Steve stagnates this coming season we will need to let him go. I want the team to have an exit strategy if Wilks is the hire and he doesn't perform.

That's true but ultimately we have a good foundation built with a ton of cap space coming up. I never felt that under Hurney. Also not sure if it's fair to have his time here associated with Rhule.

I'd like to see us address TE, WR, and CB in the first two rounds. I wouldn't mind moving back for Jalin Hyatt and then moving up to get a legit TE.

It's one a few times where I was joking and serious at the same time.

I wish we could get Cooter on our staff.

I think what Sean is doing right now is genius. Regardless of where Payton lands what's happening is fascinating. He is low key warring with the Saints. First he comes out and says he is worth a mid to late first rounder. A totally fair assessment. Something that is good for the Saints but doesn't handicap his future team. He also says the Saints would receive less compensation if he sits out another year. This is also true. This was a thinly veiled threat to the Saints. It communicated that he would sit out and they would get nothing if they tried to play with him. The Saints in a counterattack said that Payton would be worth multiple picks because they know his value. This was the Saints attempt to mitigate loss of value, protect potential draft compensation, and a signal to other teams that they would be playing hardball. All the teams that Payton have interviewed with were also in contact with the Saints regarding compensation negotiations. The Saints asked for a premium and all the organizations have balked. The potential teams know that the longer Payton doesn't have a deal done the Saints will walk back their trade price and accept less compensation. We have even heard pro Saints media try to make the argument that the compensation would be the same next year....lol. Now it is leaking that Payton is considering returning to tv. This is the final warning shot at the Saints. I expect the Saints to be more motivated to come to an agreement the longer this goes on. Teams are being diligent conducting interviews while the Saints come back down to earth with what they are asking. The teams know they all aren't going to end up with Payton so they are developing their contingency plans. Payton and is agent are gradually caring around a crying toddler (the Saints) and slowly but surely he is making them eat their broccoli. Payton tried to signal for a fair return for the Saints (and for all sides) but the latest developments seem to indicated that now he is pissed at the Saints as more cutthroat negotiating tactics seem to be taking shape. If this keeps going he may come to Carolina just to drag them twice a year.

Did we try hiring someone who we thought was the Burrow whisperer before?

I don't really care who wins your debate, but people pushing all their chips in with Corral blows my mind. Dude was a 3rd round pick, didn't look good in preseason action, and was injured for the year. Guy can barely take a snap from under center. No plans should be made centered around Corral as the future of the franchise. I think you give him a window with an opportunity to be pleasantly surprise the organization, but he isn't the future. Maybe the future backup.

I think that Fitterer is our GM this time around which is why our process is different. Fitterer knows he has to get this right.

I want to be happy for CMC. I really do. I find the 49ers more annoying now. CMC got treated with kid gloves here. He never played. I almost felt like certain players were expected to play with more injuries then CMC was while he was here.

Not only that. He showed immense class regarding the Hamlin situation. Such a stark contrast from Watson.

And then you see the Bengals go to 2 straight Superbowls winning one with debatably the best QB in the league on a rookie deal.

Bengals are a monster. Hope they bring down the whole thing. Perennial underdogs. Plus it will punish the Browns. Which is an organization that annoys me.

Well obviously two 1sts is a bit much. What I'm talking about here is whether he is interested. Payton was probably right in what he said on Cowherd about compensation. This is the Saints response to keep the negotiating bar high. It's just a negotiating tactic at this point.

Well he should right now. Out of the Texans or Broncos, you'd prefer Denver too. He hasn't met with us yet. That's happening on Monday. We will see what happens then. How can he like us best when he hasn't interviewed yet?

This is true but they should not be giving Brees all the credit for what Payton did either.

Doesn't change the fact that the Chargers lost faith in Brees whether it was performance based or injury based. It is still safe to say that Brees went on to have a long healthy career. He didn't miss many games. Payton managed that perfectly.

So I believe I can answer this partly. Remember when we had Cam? Remember how we didn't protect Cam? Remember that bad Oline? Remember how our offense was based around Cam's ability to withstand punishment? Ron Rivera did that. Remember Brees early in his career? Couldn't pass a physical. Small and undersized player without much speed. A former 1st round pick who couldn't perform with the Chargers and got traded after just a few years. How long of career did Brees have under Payton? Do you think Brees is a HOFer if he stayed with the Chargers? He had LT and Antonio Gates in their prime yet was traded after the Chargers thought he wasn't good enough. Could it be that Payton devised a system around the strengths of Brees predicated on getting the ball out quickly. Payton put together a solid Oline, always had a good running game. Always had a decent defense. This could mean nothing, or it may mean that Brees had Payton, not Payton had Brees.