TheMaulClaw

Possible but not actual. Let's see them win a playoff series before we mention them in the same breath.

Any why are the Hornets being included? Don't disrespect the Canes like that.

Agreed, but we don't need to reach either. I have no problem trading back assuming we get the number 1 pick. We need to do what Chicago did to us.

I saw it but I didn't think scoring was a problem. I watched the game and didn't come away thinking our quarterback was the reason we lost. I came away from the game thinking if we had a defense we would probably be in contention for the division. Which is why I say let's start building a team and not focusing on going all in on a quarterback every year.

I agree, but we do have influence on the media here and the type of stories they put out, which in turn affect tepper

I definitely thought that would have been a good idea.

I've watched this organization and this fanbase going crazy over the past few years, destroying everything that stands in the path of drafting the next Patrick Mahomes. In this period of time we've traded our best players, traded our best picks, and fired our coaches all in attempt to find the next chosen qb in the NFL. Meanwhile we're watching the two qbs we had before drafting Bryce play at a probowl level this year. We apparently have an insatiable desire for suffering. Before we hired Reich, I made a case that we should keep Darnold and invest our assets into drafting receivers, secondary help, and adding beef to the lines. We had played pretty well down the stretch two years ago, developed an identity, and were poised to be competing for a playoff spot the following season. Many on the board had thought the same thing, but many on here have a superbowl or bust mentality, and are willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater. It needs to stop. We need to focus on the development of our team. We're fortunate enough to have stumbled across a qb that can actually throw some NFL passes, and it should serve as a reminder that it will be easier to be a good team if were a good team with an experienced quarterback, then being a good team with a rookie qb that has a bad team. Right now we've found a number one receiver, we see progress out of Legette, the Oline is playing well, and Chubba is dynamic. Lets resign the players who have shown they can play. They all looked liked ass under Bryce. We don't need a Patrick Mahomes, we only need a qb thats good enough to allow our players to show what they can do. If you have a good team you don't need an all world qb, it would be nice, but we don't need it. We didn't need it in 03. Lets fix this horrible defense, lets makes sure we have weapons, and lets roll with an experienced quarterback until we stumble across the opportunity to improve at the position without forcing it and decimating our franchise in the process. Until then, lets make the playoffs next year.

I'm going to try and paint a picture of how dumb it would be to play Bryce Young again. Imagine a man using a dating app. The man matches with a woman, they go on a date and the man instantly realizes he was catfished. The woman completely misrepresented herself, unattractive, annoying laugh, orders everything and expects you to pay for it all, and only talks about her cats. The man says excuse me I need to use the bathroom and just dips out to escape the torture of having to let the woman down softly. A few weeks pass. The man reviews his matches on the app and sees pictures of this woman again. The man says to himself, "the pictures do look good." His memory is foggy of the woman and is tempted to message her again, then he thinks to himself, "screw that, I'm not getting double catfished by this woman." The moral of the story is the worst thing the Panthers could do is get double catfished by Bryce Young.

I just don't include the games that Bryce Young started. I think that you get a clearer picture of the team if you look at it from a perspective of erasing those two games. It's obvious that the defense is bad, but the offense has greatly improved if you remove the first two games of the season.

I wouldnt. Andy hasn't been the problem. I'd trade back and fix this defense. We need Edge, LB, DT, CB. Personally I'd go after Reddick again also. I'd rather create the environment for a QB to thrive first.

Not going to include the Bears here. They accrued far more assets then just a QB. Also the Texans had a defense. The Redskins will come back down to earth.

Don't agree. We have a great running game right now. The Online signings were great. No complaints. There was just no way to fix everything in a single off season. But the offense has been functional. They've really only had one bad game since Bryce was sat. If we had just an average defense we're competing in the division this year.

I really like Canales. I think he is doing a good job. I think he has improved what he was hired to improve. It would be absolutely ridiculous to think about letting him go. Is Canales perfect? No. But he will continue to get better. He is a developing prospect at HC that I see positive development from. This season was never going to be a winning team but I see some good offensive football. He has put us in position to at least see what we have and identify core pieces. The decision he made to bench Bryce early earned the most respect from me. Canales knew this season was about evaluation but we couldn't evaluate with Bryce. Now we can clearly see where the deficiencies are and more importantly where our strengths are. We can identify a direction we need to go personnel wise to improve. The moves that Morgan has made are also showing to be prudent. With Canales and Morgan I think they have us on the right track and I see this team improving greatly next year after we address the defense. This year we addressed the offense...next year we address the defense. Eviro on the other hand looks like a bum. I understand that there are talent issues. But guys just being completely out of position...that's coaching.

It fairly obvious that Evero needs to go. Honestly, the development of Canales is more important than the development of Bryce Young for this franchise.

Not really, I find him to be incredibly articulate and zen when he speaks and exhudes intelligence at press conferences compared to most people I've heard. Geez, you can't even give anyone a compliment anymore without someone taking it the wrong direction. I love hearing Morgan Freeman talk too, is that also wrong?

Legette took him out earlier while he was engaged with a defender

Defense was horrible last year really. Brian Burns only had 8 sacks with a healthy Derrick Brown. He didn't know how to utilize Jeremy Chinn either.

Just saying, our d is trash. Always so much hype around this guy as a coach, but I'm not seeing it. He's never criticized, but he should be. It just seems like the d isn't prepared. I know there is a talent gap, but tackling and effort is a different story. I'm not saying he is a bad coach, and he's well spoken...but I haven't seen results that scream that he is a great coach.

Don't insult Rodney Peete like that he gave us a 7 and 9 season in Fox's first year and Peppers rookie season. We showed massive improvement between the 01 and the 02 season with Peete at the helm.

All I know is that he played great the first time we actually put a decent QB on the field. He played like a number 1 Sunday. It may be just a good game, but he looked dynamic and there is nothing about his performance Sunday that proves he can't be.

I don't think you can honestly say that about Diontae. He looked very dynamic with someone that could get him the ball. Honestly, his performance Sunday was one of the most dynamic I've seen since we've had Steve Smith. So lets just see over the next few games before we can evaluate. XL is gonna be good. He drew the PI in the endzone too. He has things to clean up, but I saw his potential in the touches he got.

I think the Panthers should transition from their current mindset of chasing the next qb at all cost. I think what Andy has showed us is that we don't need to force it. We can be a good team with a competent qb. We got a lot of good years out of Delhomme, and I think we should adopt a similar approach. There was such a vacuum left within the organization after Cam left that the natural inclination was to try and find a dynamic successor at QB. The reality is, we will never replace what Cam did, and we likely won't ever find someone that can replicate Mahomes or Tom Brady either, so lets develop our system, find some smart football players that have the physical metrics and lets win some games. Honestly we might be a franchise that just operates better with a vet rather then a young guy. The prime years for a QB isn't until their early 30s anyway, so why draft a 21 years old when we can get a talented edge rusher and have a stable vet at qb. Remember, the best team in Panthers history, had a back up free agent. Some might say 2015 Panthers were the best team, but they be mistaken. 2003 Panthers were the rightful Superbowl Champs, and should have won despite Spygate.

I saw that disaster coming from a mile away. I remember how toxic this board became to anyone that suggested Bryce would be a terrible pick. Half the board knew that Stroud was the answer but as we approached the draft the Huddle got botted up with accounts dedicated to Young and soon people who hated the pick just kept their mouth shut.

Remove JJ Jansen and rework the averages. We are fine.

Not too worried about it. I don't think the drop off is going to be as bad as some think. Remember we went farther in 2019 did we did last year when we were supposedly stacked for a cup run.