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at the Bulls tonight and Hornets come out flat...down 10-0...but then Devonte starts hitting, and Hornets get within 1. No answer in the middle for Vucivik who has 9 points and 5 rebounds midway through the first quarter

Fanspeak lists big boards for the coming year within a couple of days after each years draft. Every year, about a month before the draft, although this year they were running late, they post a composite big board compiled by Arif Hasan, who puts over 40 boards together for a consensus. It gives you the best idea of what the media thinks about the draft. I have read several times that this year, teams and the media are further apart than normal, reasons are obvious. But here you go. We'll see beginning one week from tonight how close the media is in line with the professionals. Here's the top 300, the list goes on at the link. BIG BOARD PREVIEW: ARIF HASAN - CONSENSUS BIG BOARD Ranking Position Player School 1. QB Trevor Lawrence Clemson 2. TE Kyle Pitts Florida 3. OT Penei Sewell Oregon 4. WR Ja'Marr Chase LSU 5. QB Justin Fields Ohio State 6. QB Zach Wilson BYU 7. WR Jaylen Waddle Alabama 8. WR DeVonta Smith Alabama 9. OT Rashawn Slater Northwestern 10. CB Patrick Surtain II Alabama 11. LB Micah Parsons Penn State 12. QB Trey Lance North Dakota State 13. CB Jaycee Horn South Carolina 14. EDGE Kwity Paye Michigan 15. OT Christian Darrisaw Virginia Tech 16. G Alijah Vera-Tucker USC 17. LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah Notre Dame 18. CB Caleb Farley Virginia Tech 19. EDGE Jaelan Phillips Miami (FL) 20. EDGE Azeez Ojulari Georgia 21. OT Teven Jenkins Oklahoma State 22. RB Najee Harris Alabama 23. S Trevon Moehrig TCU 24. QB Mac Jones Alabama 25. LB Zaven Collins Tulsa 26. CB Greg Newsome II Northwestern 27. DL Christian Barmore Alabama 28. WR Rashod Bateman Minnesota 29. WR Kadarius Toney Florida 30. RB Travis Etienne Clemson 31. EDGE Gregory Rousseau Miami (FL) 32. EDGE Jayson Oweh Penn State 33. C Landon Dickerson Alabama 34. WR Terrace Marshall Jr. LSU 35. WR Elijah Moore Ole Miss 36. RB Javonte Williams North Carolina 37. WR Rondale Moore Purdue 38. OT Samuel Cosmi Texas 39. OT Alex Leatherwood Alabama 40. CB Asante Samuel Jr. Florida State 41. LB Jamin Davis Kentucky 42. C Creed Humphrey Oklahoma 43. EDGE Joseph Ossai Texas 44. OT Dillon Radunz North Dakota State 45. EDGE Carlos Basham Jr. Wake Forest 46. DL Levi Onwuzurike Washington 47. OT Liam Eichenberg Notre Dame 48. OT Jalen Mayfield Michigan 49. CB Eric Stokes Georgia 50. TE Pat Freiermuth Penn State 51. LB Nick Bolton Missouri 52. EDGE Joe Tryon Washington 53. S Jevon Holland Oregon 54. S Richie Grant Central Florida 55. G Wyatt Davis Ohio State 56. CB Elijah Molden Washington 57. CB Ifeatu Melifonwu Syracuse 58. CB Tyson Campbell Georgia 59. DL Daviyon Nixon Iowa 60. LB Jabril Cox LSU 61. EDGE Ronnie Perkins Oklahoma 62. C Quinn Meinerz Wisconsin-Whitewater 63. CB Aaron Robinson Central Florida 64. WR Dyami Brown North Carolina 65. LB Baron Browning Ohio State 66. WR Amon-Ra St. Brown USC 67. WR Tylan Wallace Oklahoma State 68. CB Kelvin Joseph Kentucky 69. EDGE Payton Turner Houston 70. OT Jackson Carman Clemson 71. RB Michael Carter North Carolina 72. C Josh Myers Ohio State 73. WR D'Wayne Eskridge Western Michigan 74. DL Jay Tufele USC 75. G Trey Smith Tennessee 76. LB Chazz Surratt North Carolina 77. LB Pete Werner Ohio State 78. DL Alim McNeill North Carolina State 79. DL Tommy Togiai Ohio State 80. WR Amari Rodgers Clemson 81. S Andre Cisco Syracuse 82. CB Paulson Adebo Stanford 83. QB Kyle Trask Florida 84. RB Kenneth Gainwell Memphis 85. TE Tommy Tremble Notre Dame 86. WR Nico Collins Michigan 87. OT Brady Christensen BYU 88. OT Spencer Brown Northern Iowa 89. DL Milton Williams Louisiana Tech 90. TE Brevin Jordan Miami (FL) 91. TE Hunter Long Boston College 92. OT Walker Little Stanford 93. EDGE Quincy Roche Miami (FL) 94. S Jamar Johnson Indiana 95. S Hamsah Nasirildeen Florida State 96. G Aaron Banks Notre Dame 97. QB Kellen Mond Texas A&M 98. DL Tyler Shelvin LSU 99. OT James Hudson Cincinnati 100. LB Cameron McGrone Michigan 101. G Ben Cleveland Georgia 102. EDGE Rashad Weaver Pitt 103. CB Shaun Wade Ohio State 104. RB Trey Sermon Ohio State 105. EDGE Patrick Jones II Pitt 106. G Deonte Brown Alabama 107. QB Davis Mills Stanford 108. G Kendrick Green Illinois 109. DL Marvin Wilson Florida State 110. LB Dylan Moses Alabama 111. WR Tutu Atwell Louisville 112. EDGE Dayo Odeyingbo Vanderbilt 113. EDGE Jordan Smith Alabama-Birmingham 114. DL Marlon Tuipulotu USC 115. DL Osa Odighizuwa UCLA 116. S Talanoa Hufanga USC 117. S Ar'Darius Washington TCU 118. CB Robert Rochell Central Arkansas 119. OT Stone Forsythe Florida 120. WR Seth Williams Auburn 121. CB Benjamin St-Juste Minnesota 122. S Divine Deablo Virginia Tech 123. RB Chuba Hubbard Oklahoma State 124. EDGE Chris Rumph II Duke 125. CB Ambry Thomas Michigan 126. OT D'Ante Smith East Carolina 127. EDGE Cameron Sample Tulane 128. CB Israel Mukuamu South Carolina 129. CB Trill Williams Syracuse 130. S Caden Sterns Texas 131. WR Anthony Schwartz Auburn 132. CB Shakur Brown Michigan State 133. RB Rhamondre Stevenson Oklahoma 134. S Tyree Gillespie Missouri 135. OT Robert Hainsey Notre Dame 136. WR Jaelon Darden North Texas 137. RB Khalil Herbert Virginia Tech 138. LB Monty Rice Georgia 139. DL Jaylen Twyman Pitt 140. RB Demetric Felton UCLA 141. EDGE Shaka Toney Penn State 142. CB Kary Vincent Jr. LSU 143. WR Cade Johnson South Dakota State 144. CB Thomas Graham Jr. Oregon 145. EDGE Elerson Smith Northern Iowa 146. RB Kylin Hill Mississippi State 147. WR Simi Fehoko Stanford 148. DL Bobby Brown III Texas A&M 149. LB Derrick Barnes Purdue 150. EDGE Hamilcar Rashed Jr. Oregon State 151. S James Wiggins Cincinnati 152. EDGE Janarius Robinson Florida State 153. WR Cornell Powell Clemson 154. WR Sage Surratt Wake Forest 155. CB Keith Taylor Washington 156. CB Marco Wilson Florida 157. WR Shi Smith South Carolina 158. WR Tamorrion Terry Florida State 159. EDGE Charles Snowden Virginia 160. RB Jermar Jefferson Oregon State 161. CB Rodarius Williams Oklahoma State 162. RB Jaret Patterson Buffalo 163. CB Tre Brown Oklahoma 164. S Jamien Sherwood Auburn 165. QB Jamie Newman Georgia 166. EDGE Patrick Johnson Tulane 167. CB Camryn Bynum California 168. EDGE Daelin Hayes Notre Dame 169. S Richard LeCounte III Georgia 170. TE Kenny Yeboah Ole Miss 171. WR Josh Palmer Tennessee 172. EDGE Victor Dimukeje Duke 173. RB Javian Hawkins Louisville 174. G David Moore Grambling State 175. WR Ihmir Smith-Marsette Iowa 176. WR Austin Watkins Jr. Alabama-Birmingham 177. WR Dazz Newsome North Carolina 178. TE Tre' McKitty Georgia 179. RB Elijah Mitchell Louisiana 180. C Drake Jackson Kentucky 181. WR Frank Darby Arizona State 182. DL Darius Stills West Virginia 183. CB DJ Daniel Georgia 184. LB Garret Wallow TCU 185. EDGE Ade Ogundeji Notre Dame 186. EDGE Chauncey Golston Iowa 187. S Damar Hamlin Pitt 188. RB Chris Evans Michigan 189. G Jack Anderson Texas Tech 190. WR Marquez Stevenson Houston 191. LB Tony Fields II West Virginia 192. OT Tommy Doyle Miami (OH) 193. WR Trevon Grimes Florida 194. S Darrick Forrest Cincinnati 195. DL Khyiris Tonga BYU 196. EDGE Tarron Jackson Coastal Carolina 197. C Drew Dalman Stanford 198. G Sadarius Hutcherson South Carolina 199. EDGE Jonathon Cooper Ohio State 200. S Joshuah Bledsoe Missouri 201. EDGE Malcolm Koonce Buffalo 202. RB Larry Rountree III Missouri 203. CB Olaijah Griffin USC 204. CB Deommodore Lenoir Oregon 205. OT Alaric Jackson Iowa 206. OT Brenden Jaimes Nebraska 207. LB K.J. Britt Auburn 208. LB Ernest Jones South Carolina 209. WR Dez Fitzpatrick Louisville 210. C Trey Hill Georgia 211. CB Tay Gowan Central Florida 212. DL Tedarrell Slaton Florida 213. S JaCoby Stevens LSU 214. DL Jonathan Marshall Arkansas 215. C Michal Menet Penn State 216. G Tommy Kraemer Notre Dame 217. QB Sam Ehlinger Texas 218. G Royce Newman Ole Miss 219. OT Josh Ball Marshall 220. EDGE Joshua Kaindoh Florida State 221. OT Dan Moore Jr. Texas A&M 222. LB Justin Hilliard Ohio State 223. S Paris Ford Pitt 224. WR Josh Imatorbhebhe Illinois 225. TE Kylen Granson SMU 226. S Christian Uphoff Illinois State 227. S Shawn Davis Florida 228. RB Pooka Williams Jr. Kansas 229. WR Jonathan Adams Jr. Arkansas State 230. TE Tony Poljan Virginia 231. OT Jaylon Moore Western Michigan 232. TE Noah Gray Duke 233. OT Larry Borom Missouri 234. TE Matt Bushman BYU 235. S Mark Webb Georgia 236. OT Adrian Ealy Oklahoma 237. QB Ian Book Notre Dame 238. CB Darren Hall San Diego State 239. DL Ta'Quon Graham Texas 240. WR Dax Milne BYU 241. EDGE William Bradley-King Baylor 242. CB Zech McPhearson Texas Tech 243. OT Landon Young Kentucky 244. S Brady Breeze Oregon 245. TE John Bates Boise State 246. C Jimmy Morrissey Pitt 247. FB Ben Mason Michigan 248. EDGE Wyatt Hubert Kansas State 249. CB Bryce Thompson Tennessee 250. OT Robert Jones Middle Tennessee 251. QB Feleipe Franks Arkansas 252. DL Malik Herring Georgia 253. OT Cole Van Lanen Wisconsin 254. LB Paddy Fisher Northwestern 255. OT Kayode Awosika Buffalo 256. OT Carson Green Texas A&M 257. WR Whop Philyor Indiana 258. LB Isaiah McDuffie Boston College 259. CB Nate Hobbs Illinois 260. WR Marlon Williams Central Florida 261. S Tariq Thompson San Diego State 262. CB Bryan Mills North Carolina Central 263. WR Warren Jackson Colorado State 264. TE Zach Davidson Central Missouri State 265. TE Nick Eubanks Michigan 266. TE Quintin Morris Bowling Green 267. QB Shane Buechele SMU 268. LB Amen Ogbongbemiga Oklahoma State 269. CB Tre Norwood Oklahoma 270. CB Brandon Stephens SMU 271. WR Jacob Harris Central Florida 272. LB Buddy Johnson Texas A&M 273. CB Shemar Jean-Charles Appalachian State 274. LB Grant Stuard Houston 275. TE Pro Wells TCU 276. WR Brandon Smith Iowa 277. CB Rachad Wildgoose Wisconsin 278. DL Mustafa Johnson Colorado 279. WR Damonte Coxie Memphis 280. RB Rakeem Boyd Arkansas 281. RB Brenden Knox Marshall 282. WR Tyler Vaughns USC 283. WR Mike Strachan Charleston 284. RB Gerrid Doaks Cincinnati 285. DL Naquan Jones Michigan State 286. LB Riley Cole South Alabama 287. PK Jose Borregales Miami (FL) 288. CB Brandin Echols Kentucky 289. LB Nick Niemann Iowa 290. TE Briley Moore Kansas State 291. LB Anthony Hines III Texas A&M 292. TE Cary Angeline North Carolina State 293. RB Trey Ragas Louisiana 294. WR Ben Skowronek Notre Dame 295. G Jared Hocker Texas A&M 296. WR Damon Hazelton Missouri 297. WR Jalen Camp Georgia Tech 298. CB Jason Pinnock Pitt 299. WR Brennan Eagles Texas 300. OT William Sherman Colorado https://fanspeak.com/ontheclock-nfl-mock-draft-simulator/preview.php?board_id=14

why not? He was the one so in love with Little he was trying to trade back into the first...maybe he thinks he just isn't a fit with the team regime. 2022 4th?

could we get a 5th for him after the draft to a tackle needy team?

well if you consider we won 5 games, and Teddy kept us from winning at least 3 or 4 more, we could certainly have a winning record if Darnold plays up to his potential.

as long as Pitts is not in our division, I'm happy. Especially if the Falcons spend their first rounder on a guy who sits for a year.

fug Julius Randle. Hope someone busts him in the mouth. Melo was dribbling like he felt no problem at all on the sideline. He may be back sooner than we think.

and looks like PJ is answering the call...comes off the bench in the first quarter, plays 9 minutes and goes 5 for 5 from 3. He ties his season high in 9 minutes, Hornets lead in the second quarter.

Devonte is playing and hit a 3...but we're not hitting much else. Down 17-8 midway through first. We do have a chance, but we need Terry to get going, and either PJ or Myles to have a night.

He identified biscuit, was stumped by grits and hushpuppies lol. Hopefully he'll get some Bojangles soon.

the draft really falling to us this year...let's us focus on the OL, WR, and defensive backs, where we can find good value, hopefully.

Rod Boone @rodboone · 10h Sources: LaMelo Ball could return within the next two weeks after the #Hornets received good news about their rookie point guard today:

not a lot of news comes out in this round of activity, no on the field stuff, so no beat reporters dropping nuggets. But there is this....we got to work today. And you may not recognize that guy about 5 seconds in....he's new.

thanks Nat, it is wonderful having someone with your insight, contacts and expertise posting on this board. We may be the only NFL board that has someone like you.

Natalie Miller @Nat_NFLDraft · 1h Trey Lance will go #4 overall regardless of what team owns the pick. Falcons, Broncos, WFT, or Patriots.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 7m Alex Smith announced he is retiring on IG.

just beat a playoff team with all the injuries noted above. Hornets shot like their lives depended on it...47% from the floor, 41% from 3. And another "how do you do" dunk.. That Nurkic is a freaking mountain. If we had a post player like that...

Hornets lead by 18, amazing our well we start without so many of our starters and key reserves. We just run out of gas in the 4th. Give credit to our front office for finding depth, and our coaching for developing those young players. Another sign that the future is bright.

Vernon earned the start after his big game...committed 2 fouls in 20 seconds and is on the bench. McDaniels has six midway through the first quarter though, and Hornets up by 12.

INJURY UPDATE: @hornets vs. POR 4/18 Devonte' Graham (L Quad Contusion) has been downgraded to out PJ Washington (R Ankle Sprain) has been upgraded and is available to play #AllFly Quote Tweet Charlotte Hornets PR @HornetsPR · Apr 17 INJURY UPDATE: @hornets vs. POR 4/18 Graham (L Quad Contusion) questionable Washington (R Ankle Sprain) questionable Ball (R Wrist Fracture) out Darling (R Ankle Sprain) out Hayward (R Foot Sprain) out Monk (R Ankle Sprain) out

No word that they won't so far. Most teams have announced their players have opted out as a team. "The Panthers are expected to begin Phase 1 of their offseason workout program on Monday, according to a memo sent from the league to all 32 teams. The offseason program is completely voluntary except for one mandatory minicamp, which will take place in June. Phase 1 of the offseason is mostly virtual, as outlined below. https://www.derp/2021/4/16/22387222/nfl-carolina-panthers-to-begin-offseason-workout-program-on-monday Joe Person @josephperson · 57m Panthers are among 12 teams that have not yet released a statement on their participation in voluntary, in-person portion of offseason workouts, which begin tomorrow.

If Pitts and Sewell are gone, but Slater and Chase are there....that's a tough choice. I don't think Chase will be, but he has better than All Pro level talent...good chance of Hall of Fame. Tough call.

Natalie Miller @Nat_NFLDraft · 44m If I had to rank who the Panthers pick at 8 (Assuming Pitts and Chase are gone) 1. Sewell (if he is there) 2. Slater 3. Waddle 4. Surtain 5. Horn