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The biggest problem with the Panthers the last 2+ years is the mismanagement of the QB position plain and simple. I'm not sure if that boils down to Tepper or the current coaching staff but the failure is on both. A franchise QB allows you to compete even with a sub par roster or coaching staff, and it opens the draft up to pick the best player on the board. But until you find that franchise QB, you have to keep throwing sh*t at the wall until something sticks. The Panthers were not doing a good job of that. Signing a guy like Teddy Bridgewater was a move that should have been paired with drafting a QB even if it was in the late rounds. Bridgewater was a failure but they didn't learn from their mistake and traded for another bad QB in Sam Darnold and passed on a few viable QB prospects in Justin Fields and Mac Jones. The most mind numbing decision was drafting a cornerback in the top 10 which is a luxury position to pick that high in the draft for a team searching for a franchise QB. So I can't tell you where the failure lies exactly but there's plenty of blame to go around for the failures at QB. That have all lead to bringing Cam back to save their jobs and keep the fanbase from eviscerating them for their ineptitude and stupidity.

Do we know that for sure? I always assumed Tepper went and got Joe Brady but maybe I'm wrong.

At this point what is the harm in firing Brady and letting Sean Ryan run the offense? Cam has spoken highly of him so far. Cam knows a bunch of plays he's run over the years. Build the offense on the brains of Cam and Sean Ryan.

you think it'll be that long?

We continue to have young team problems. But remember in 2011 and 2012 we were having growing pains and Rivera was getting out coached as well. I remember seeing some frustrating losses in 2012 that were very similar to what we're seeing this season too. They didn't really put it all together until 2013. Only issue is that young team had a very young Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly. This team has....I mean you can't even compare the two. This team doesn't have the same kind of potential with the QB situation the way it is.

I'm just not sure Rhule has the respect of the players. Rivera had a ton of respect in the locker room and from every player on the team. Former player, extremely well liked by almost everyone who has ever worked with him. Rhule is just a rah rah dude who I think has climbed the mountain faster than maybe he should have jumping to the NFL. Same with Joe Brady. The coaching staff is just inexperienced. I thought Rhule should have brought in a seasoned NFL caliber coordinator on one side of the ball, probably offense, to develop a young QB.

He's certainly not making an impact on the stat sheet. I'd have to really dig into the game footage but is he demanding double teams? Opening up space for others to make plays? Freeing up Shaq to make tackles? Other than that he certainly isn't doing any pass rushing or run stopping from what I can see. It's a shame KK's tank ran out last year.

I saw that. Rivera knows he's a choker and didn't want the stadium to laugh at him again.

lol dude you kicked a couple short FGs and some extra points. you did your job whoop dee doo. you didn't do anything special to earn the right to be trolling.

Tough to expect a 3rd round rookie to start right away but I think he will end up being a starter next year. Also keep in mind that Cam was 100x more decisive with the ball than Darnold and will make all of the offensive linemen look better.

When you can get 8-9 yards per rush like Washington did today it doesn’t matter what the rest of the defense is doing. Panthers got absolutely worked in the run game and it opened up everything else they did. Heinecke played efficient football and has clearly gotten better than his time on the Panthers, but the run defense is the Achilles heel and teams that can just put a man on a man and block, the Panthers don’t have the size to win. This defense is too small on the edges to compete.

The contract is a valid argument. But I can’t help but wonder how much worse Turner would really be than the trash they’ve rolled out at RG since they traded him.

Seems like that entire team had offensive line problems beyond Turner. Suddenly he’s serviceable on the Steelers?

I mean, did we?? Okung played in what, 7 games last year? Turner is still in the NFL and playing well.

I think this team manages to win 2 or maybe 3 more games at most but who knows with this squad. They could lose to the Lions with the way they play sometimes

I guess Trai Turner is still a decent RG ranked 16 out of 39. Better than John Miller I’m sure.

There is too much talent on the roster to make this many mistakes every game. It’s clear the team is poorly coached and has only won as many games as they have because of pure talent. The pass rushers getting sacks and forcing turnovers is at times just pure talent. CMC is the offense and even with Cam back there’s too many problems with the coaching and playcalling to overcome any mistakes. The only way this team wins is if they shut down the opposing offense early and force turnovers and play mistake free football on offense. There’s no room for error on either side of the football because of how many mistakes they make.

Part of it could be Cam’s lack of knowledge of the playbook. Other part of it could be Brady’s lack of a playbook.

Not good.

Are you still going to pin it

It’s over. We’ve all seen enough panthers games to know that

Looks like a 2+ score loss to Washington is incoming with a defense that can’t stop anything. Even with Cam back the team is still poorly coached and unable to stop teams that body them up in the run game. Cam coming back was a last gasp for a team that will probably be looking for a new coaching staff next season.

We’ve all seen this story before. Game over. Ron comes back and embarrasses us. Cam was a last desperate gasp to keep fans in the stands while this train wreck of a coaching staff falls off the track again

Even with Cam back this team still stinks. Defense won’t put up another stop all game