DaveThePanther2008

Nowhere is it written that if either fall to 8 we don't take him. IMO this will be a historic draft. 4 QBs in the first 4 picks. Regardless of who is left (Fields, Lance or Jones) someone is going to trade up ahead of us to grab that last QB. Supposedly, we are picking up his 5th year option. Two years to evaluate. If he sucks at the end of 2 years we'll have Bridgewater off the books and a fresh start. If he plays well next year we sign him to a long term contract.

I just watched a couple of videos from NFL Network and all of them say the same thing. Darnold had poor coaching and no talent around him. If we address our O-line in this draft he'll have protection and talent around him. After watching these videos I believe Darnold is going to excel in Carolina. Battista seems to know her stuff about the Jets and I enjoyed her take. NFL Network's Kurt Warner: 'Can't say I'm fully surprised' the Carolina Panthers traded for quarterback Sam Darnold NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport: Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rhule has been a 'huge fan' of quarterback Sam Darnold since interviewing for New York Jets job NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah: Quarterback Sam Darnold trade is a 'win-win-win' for QB, Carolina Panthers, New York Jets NFL Network's Judy Battista: Former New York Jets quarterback Sam Darnold will have a 'better chance at success' in Carolina

My 2 cents. The chances of us adding one of the top 5 rookie QBs was very slim. Too many teams in front of us were willing to trade down which meant we would have to give up high value picks to move up including next year's first. Especially Atlanta who would either want all our picks until 2025 or intentionally trade down to ensure we lost one of these QBs. Meaning 4 QBs off the board before any other position is selected. That leaves Jones, Fields or Lance left depending on what SF does and still 4 spots to go. I don't know the what Rhule and Co. thought of the draft picks but personally I wasn't overly excited about any of the picks outside of Lawrence and Wilson. Intrigued yes, overly excited no. Had we selected any of them I would have trusted the management. Darnold has not had the best of starts in his career but he's talented and we basically have 2 years to figure him out. 2019 wasn't great for him but it wasn't garbage as many have stated. Nearly 62% completions. 19 TDs 13 ints. In his 2nd year with minimal talent around him. We have CMC, DJ and Anderson to help. We've added a couple of TEs that could help or maybe we draft Pitts. I think once he nails a couple of deep passes to Moore and Anderson the hate will go away. Plus he has some connections with Anderson. Draft capital value is diminished if it isn't for this year. Basically making them wait a full year to get their money back. So a 3rd or 4th this year is a 2nd next. We get the opportunity to utilize our full draft picks. I believe we have a 6th round compensation pick this year. I think the key to this trade will be how well we nail this draft. If we hit on our top 4 like we did last year. Our O-line should be better. That's providing they stick to their plan on drafting offensive players especially Linemen.

There isn't one statement that has been said that we won't address the QB spot as well. There are several latter round QBs out there that could surprise us. You can easily switch this around and say glad we didn't take QB-2 because he sucks. Hindsight is 20/20.

If one of them fell to the 2nd round I would be shocked.

That's BS. She claimed shyt that were blatantly false. Her entire story was BS. ' You go ahead and believe your theory.

He raped her. Just about everything she spewed out of her mouth was a lie. Did you not follow the hearing?

Tell me one fact that she said was true. I'm waiting.

In the court of public opinion. So you're ok with the fact that at defense will not give a list of the women accusing him. I

None of the shyt she said was true. All fabricated.

Exactly!!!! Kavanaugh was able to defend himself and knew his accuser. They were able to show that her story was fabricated. The difference between Kavanaugh and Watson is that these women are hiding behind a lawyer that wants him convicted before there ever is a trial. Reveal the names and let the defense and do their background check. It's appalling that so many on here are ready to convict just because there are several women making the accusation. Once again, I am not saying he is innocent but I am saying they need to allow his lawyers do their due diligence and investigate their backgrounds and come to the truth.

You can't believe either side. You have to let the facts make the case. I am not going to believe a woman who is afraid to reveal her name even in confidentiality to the man you are accusing. @Snake Let me ask you this. If a woman came in here and said you sexually assaulted her. Are we supposed to ban you until you are proven innocent or are we supposed to get the facts and make a decision after all the facts are in. We can't as a society just assume that because a woman or women come out and make a claim against a person. The case must unfold and both sides need to investigate a prove their case. I don't know whether he did it or not. What I find extremely unfair is that so many women came out in 2+ weeks and not a one of them has given their name. To me they are hiding something.

IMO this is the No 1. reason why the names are being withheld. It will be interesting to see how many of these women have had sex with their customers or offered a "Happy Ending" to their massage. Also this would give a valid reason why there were so many? While I am certain that many women are professional and keep their sexual life out of their profession. There are many that use the job title as a way to lure men to pay for the additional service. Please don't tell me they don't exist because I have experienced the offer from this profession. I won't divulge in whether I accepted or not.

Yes I agree. His takes were very unbiased and explained it well. Especially how he explained the difference between Mahomes arm and Wilson's arm. If it is Fields that drops to us we need to be certain we aren't getting, as I stated before, Colin Kaepernick 2.0.

I'd be supportive too because Fitterer and Rhule have determined that he will perform.

I agree. If there is video evidence than Watson is sunk. However with as many women coming out and saying he was perfectly fine. It is going to come down to proof. I posted a link about the Houston Police which makes this very interesting. I read it the other day that the lawyer in this suit does not want Houston Police investigating. I don't know what their rift is between the lawyer and the police chief. I read where the lawyer wanted an independent investigator.

Probably as much as the Texans paid off those women claiming wrongdoing just to get back at Watson for wanting to leave Houston.

You know I think that the defense has been finding these women who say he's been clean. This will come down to who do you believe unless they come up with physical evidence. What really bothers me is that the defense will not provide a list of the name of these women. It's hard to defend yourself when you don't know your accuser. I thought one of our legal requirements is that you must be able to face your accuser. I think if the defense ever gets a list of these women they will attempt to find out if some of these women have preformed "Happy Endings" for other customers. This IMO is why the defense will not give those names out.

I think we'll end up with one of the top five QBs. Its seems the question marks that some teams may have will drop one or two of these QBs to us. Not saying I wouldn't take Fields at 8 if he were available but this is the second time I have heard about Fields ability to go through his progression. We don't need a Colin Kaepernick on steroids.

This is interesting as the lawyer for the plantiffs do not want the Houston Police department investigating this because of some riff between the lawyer and the police chief. They wanted an independent investigation. https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/deshaun-watson-rusty-hardin-tony-buzbee-lawsuits/285-4cfd4fc4-8014-450f-a889-07711242a992

The cost to trade up for Fields would be enormous and he has his question marks.

The word is that this is a deep draft for OT. I would like to have a solid center and Humphrey is a solid choice. But if we took a OT and Center I would be happy too.

Twelve position groups a total of 60 players. https://www.nfl.com/news/bucky-brooks-top-five-2021-nfl-draft-prospects-by-position-2-0 Assuming all 60 of the top players went in the first two rounds. We have a shot at 2 of them. Who do you choose. If we get one of the QBs I want Lance. If not, Surtain. 2nd Round Creed Humphrey

I think any move for Darnold will be made after the draft. If we land a QB than we won't pursue Darnold.

I did. I imagine George with the stoggie while he sings. I think they love Lawrence and Wilson. The are probably meh on the others.