DaveThePanther2008

— Good athlete who can make a defender miss with the ball in his hands. Can get to the edge on designed runs. — Quick-twitch player who can snap throws off play fakes. Has a quick and consistent release and throwing motion. — Above-average accuracy on short and intermediate throws when in rhythm. Can consistently place the ball to let his receivers run after the catch. — Above-average arm strength with flashes of being able to drive the ball into tight spaces. — Tough and competitive player. Does not hesitate when taking defenders on while scrambling or on designed QB runs. — Flashes the ability to throw off-platform and in scramble drills.

According to you. He has one of the quickest releases in a QB in many years. Drop only due to some overblown off the field issues. Show me the scouting report on Corral that substantiates you claim,

You have no facts.

In our current draft position we are most likely not getting Stroud or Young. I don't think we are done winning. This puts us into the 2nd tier of QBs that have as many question marks as Corral does. It also puts us in a position to draft another need or trade down. None of us know what the new coaching staff will see in Corral, whether good or bad. Everyone assumes that it is automatic that the new coach will draft a QB. Once again, it isn't going to be Stroud or Young. The injury was a freak injury. It isn't a shoulder injury, it was an ankle. People act as if it is come career ending injury. I also believe it was made to be worse to get him on IR but that's just an opinion. I also don't believe it will be a "Mayfield" competition where the QB is preselected and it's just for show. I look forward to seeing him compete for the job.

This I throw the bullshit flag on this one too. I seriously doubt he did any of this. Any player, coach or scout would not discount players on his team at any time. Playing Madden 22 doesn't constitute playing.

That's a stat not proof. You have no idea of whether he will be good enough. NONE Opinion only. You have no idea whatsoever. NONE Who's head is in the sand? Not mine. I at least say he'll get an opportunity to be our quarterback. I've never said he was the answer. Not once, I have said he'll be given the opportunity. You and the other Corral haters won't even acknowledge that he'll get an opportunity. NO ONE OF YOU. Talking about head in the sand. You cry "he was in a monsoon" hahahahaha 16 MPH winds, 69 degrees. OMG what a monsoon. The kid looked worse than Corral did and he had a complete season with the team. 1st team reps all summer and somehow he gets a pass. Corral had NO first team Reps at any time and "He's non competitive" Please. Your double standards are showing quite clearly.

Objective? You gotta be kidding me. You are going to sit here and tell me Corral had a real opportunity? Which by your statement that's exactly what you are saying. Anyone that knows football knows that Corral wasn't given one true opportunity in training camp or preseason. As I've said 1000x Corral was given 5 minutes at the end of practice. Do you truly believe that was fair? It's not a bias it is a belief that given a real opportunity he will perform well. You on the other hand have total discounted any possibility based on no facts. We traded a pick for him. We moved up to get him. The only person that held him back was Rhule. You say he ain't good enough to make us competitive. How so? No one know because Rhule had Mayfield as his boy and that was that. You're so hell bent on us drafting a QB that you'll discount him regardless of anything. I don't know where you think I get upset. I do get irritated with idiots that say 99.99% chance he won't succeed. This is a stupid, ignorant and utterly dumb statement. Based on absolutely no facts. You're a tanker, you're a loser at any cost which tells me you know absolutely nothing about professional sports and their players. Better that you go play with your Madden 22 and leave the chatter about the team to those that understand professional sports. You embarrass your profile name. diehard... hahahaha as long as we are winning.

I'm throwing the bullshit flag on this. He has many many traits that are starting caliber QB. God I hate when people talk out of the ass to try and make a point.

Exactly, the thing is we are actually in most of these games. Had we not had the late turnovers against Baltimore we could have at least tied them. Atlanta first game two missed opportunities to win. Win or lose you have to admire Wilks getting them to believe we can win these games. Given a choice for a new OC after the season. 2023 could look much different.

When we hired Rhule we expected 5-11 season but what we didn't expect was the following year to be 5-12. We definitely didn't want to see 5-12 for a third year in a row. Winning brings an attitude. We finish strong it gives the players something to believe in over the course of the offseason. Secondly, these games aren't meaningless to the players. They still have a shot at going to the playoffs. Winning or losing record. Making the playoffs are a goal for every team, regardless of the record. Once you are in the playoffs everyone is equal. A team that sucks in the beginning of the year could be totally different come playoff time. Players love the underdog role and who knows what will happen. These games don't become meaningless until we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The only meaningless interpretation comes from fans who have given up on the season. This usually happens in here about week 5 lately. None of us, whether we are Pro or Con on Corral know what will play out. We all assume that we'll draft a QB this offseason. Mostly because we want the shiny new toy since Corral was an afterthought pick in the 3rd round. Our new coach or Wilks may like what we have in Corral. They may think we could address another position that will make us stronger and choose a QB later on, if we choose one at all. I know I am talking to a wall, but the tanker fans really need to understand who's playing the game. It's not some fatboy sitting on the couch with a controller in his hands. These are real young men that have spent their entire lives working to get to the NFL. Players and coaches don't give a damn about our draft position. As a fan we should embrace that our team wants to win and deal with the draft in April.

Really? You're an expert on Corral? Corral has many good traits and given a real opportunity you'll be proven wrong.

Gotcha

Agreed. So many more intangibles than how far or hard you can throw a football. Of course, it also helps if the questions aren't off the wall questions that some interviews seem to enjoy asking.

Sounds like what happened to Howell at UNC. 2020 he had many playmakers, and everyone was talking how he'd be at the top of the 2022 draft. UNC looked bad in 2021 and blamed most of it on Howell. He had several WRs dropping spot on passes. Richardson intrigues me. I haven't seen him play much but from what I've seen he can really zip it. I think his game will transition well to the NFL. If he gets a decent QB coach he'll probably have a high ceiling.

I don't think Fitt would do that. If we are going to burn a first on a QB he better have the tools to start, even if it is 2024. I am not convinced that any of these QBs are franchise type players. If Young were taller maybe him but otherwise, they most likely are serviceable. In our current position I don't think Stroud or Young will be there at our pick. I would expect us to go with another position of need or possibly trade down and get an extra pick or two.

Glad they got this done. Burns is becoming the face of the franchise.

They also had a back up plan with Foreman. No? Big difference when you have someone to back up than have nothing and hope that draft pick works out.

You're just a loser. You only think about how you feel about not getting a top draft pick. Professional teams don't focus on the draft in the middle of the season. Players are going to try to win and obviously you don't get it. Typical Tanker that only uses there desires and don't think about what Professional Sports is all about. I bet you're one of those guys that join a fantasy league and trade all your good players away once you figure out you can't win it all. You trade them to your buddy so he can win the whole thing.

You blew your who story with this insane comment. Hurney brings in talent to the NFL. I did a lengthy spreadsheet on Hurney a couple of years ago. He was money in round 1 and garbage beyond it. Not counting the first round he was well under 50% on his "talent" and only 2 or 3 Pro Bowlers outside round 1.

Obviously, you have no clue on how to build a team. You don't gut your team of good young players. But then again, your response doesn't surprise me.

A true "mature football fan" is going to pull for his team to WIN every game that they play in, not hope they lose. A "mature football fan" knows our management is going to do everything they can to solve our QB problem. A "mature football fan" isn't going to hope we lose so we can "Possibly" get a quarterback that MIGHT be a franchise QB. Meaningless for you and the other Tankers out there. Last time I checked we were one game out of first place in our division where we are 3-1. Our division leader has two games they are most likely going to lose. Based on your mentality that once you have a losing record you tank for the highest draft pick you can get. We'll just tell Brian Burns that we are going to sit him for the rest of the season, to hell with your sack total. You can get more next season. We'll also tell DJ Moore we're going to sit him as well. Don't worry you can achieve 1000 yds receiving in 4 of your 5 seasons. We'll also tell Bozeman that we are going to sit him as well but would like for him to come back next year. Hopefully we won't have a losing record at midseason, and we won't have to sit him again.

True, it also didn't help that the media was playing Rhule up to be the next greatest thing since sliced bread.

How did we get so baffled by this guy? So many thought he would bring an exciting brand of football to the Carolinas. Instead, we get an unaccountable bum that made us the laughingstock of the NFL. Definitely agree the worst Head Coach in NFL history. Move over John McKay you have company.

100% We need an OC that can utilize our talent to the best we can. Our DC has done a great job minus the Cincinnati game. We nearly shut down L. Jackson and hopefully we'll continue our success against Seattle. 3-4 since the firing of Rhule and trading CMC should be a great indicator considering he kept McAdoo to at least give us a chance. Firing him now would not have helped get any wins. I am not fully onboard with the Rivera/Fox comparison. Let Wilks have a full season with an OC of his choice and then we can decide who to compare him with. Get a good OC and we might want to compare him to Salah in NYJ.

A little testy are we?