DaveThePanther2008

So basically Young takes over or he's a bust. He's not Cam Newton and isn't a franchise QB. Whether we like it or not Young is QB1 and he's a game manager, at best.

No offense but, I'll take Canales over you 100% of the time. Young isn't a franchise QB. He just needs to execute his high profile position. Manage the game plan and do your job.

If the guy is borderline alcoholic it won't help us much if he's in trouble all the time. That said, I would take a shot if he were there at 101.

As Dave Canales said last week. Young only needs to be 1/11th of the solution. Just do your job and don't try to be the hero. At this point he's our QB but I wouldn't say franchise QB.

Either way you look at it a high value 1st round pick is going to fall in this draft especially if all 6 QBs go. I'd weight the trade based off what the future 1st would bring. If we're trading with KC, Buffalo or any playoff caliber team I probably wouldn't make the trade because we'd only move up a spot or two and have to wait a year. However, if NYG or Seattle or any other team that might wind up in the upper portion of the draft I'm going to listen. More importantly the trade would have to be a win for us.

What I don't like about these mocks is they make trades but don't list everything we get in return or the return is weak.

Some of these stupid mock drafts have a hidden agenda. If you look through his draft their will be one team with an amazing draft. That's probably his team.

Where's the value? 52 is not a 1st round talent. Next year's 3rd is a potential starter. If we're going to trade and have to wait until next year. I want a 1st. Period.

Not my position to evaluate coaches. I can only assume Morgan likes him and decided to retain him. I can't see with all the changes Morgan made he'd keep someone not worthy of keeping.

Didn't Miami lose a first pick a year or so ago because of tampering. Atlanta should lose their 1st round pick.

@Bear Hands Nice Job. As much as I agree with you, I think if we keep 33 it is going to be a WR. One of the good WRs are going to fall to #33 and we need to take him. I would love to see a center with the 39th pick. I saw another mock draft that had us taking Kneeland and God knows we could still use and upgrade at EDGE.

Isn't that the job of the strength and conditioning coach? If a QB needs to be able to throw the ball with a bit more zip and 5 to 10 more yards down the field than that the job of the S&C coach. Bulking up just to Bulk up only is for the cameras. Strengthen the body to fit your position.

If I am going to trade 33 and get a pick in 2025. It will have to be a 1st. There are going to be several offers for 33. Those that put a 1st in the deal will get my vote. Though we only have a couple picks in 2024 our focus should also include what is going to get us in the playoffs in 2025. Having two first next year really gives us a better chance of reaching the playoffs.

I love that several of our defensive free agent signings are players that have played for him. They know his scheme and it will be just getting the other newcomers on board with Evero. I really believe the 2024 Panthers defense is going to be awesome.

Nearly everyone on this forum believes 2024 Panthers will not be in a position to make the playoffs. I think this would be a great trade. Seattle has a new coaching staff and a rookie QB. Chances are they don't make the playoffs either which means that the 2025 pick will be top 10. That gives us 2 top 10 picks in 2025 and possibly put us in a position to make the playoffs in 2025-26 season. We still have #39 to grab a WR,LB or C/G.

You pretty much took the words out of my mouth. The only way I trade out of 33 is for a 2025 1st and no less than a 3rd this year. We've given Young almost everything he needs to be successful or at least show he's worth the pick. Getting that extra 2025 pick gives us tools to move up and get a great pick if he falters in 2024.

The turnover was obviously necessary. Clean house and start over. What I think is being overlooked is this is Morgan and Canales team. It's not like we acquired all these players with the same coaching staff and philosophy. Canales and his staff (minus Evero) will come in knowing just as much about the new players as they would have with the old. There will be an adjustment as they get to know them but because they are bringing in a lot of new (hopefully DAWG type) talent that will come together faster. Offensively our interior line should give our QB more time to throw the ball to better receivers. Defensively we added several new pieces but a few of them have played for Evero before. That's will help the learning curve. I think in the end it will come down to not who we acquired but how they mesh together with our staff.

You can forget Wilson dropping to the 3rd round. No way, a player falls to the 3rd round when he scooped up the Butkus and Bednarik awards. If we are desperate for a WR at 33 the best, we can hope for is Wilson falls to 39. I'd take Wilson at 33 and WR at 39. I also think a plus with Wilson is he's been in Luke's back pocket for several years and they communicate often. (Or so I heard)

I am not 100% sure that 33 is going to be a WR. BPA may be our choice at 33. Than we can address WR at 39. We have 2 good route runners now and need a good route running speedster. Mingo and TMJ are big receivers who need to become better route runners. Hopefully, Canales will work with them and improve or WR room. 4 weeks to go.

If Corral continues to play like he did Saturday, he'll end up as someone's 3rd QB. He had a couple of good throws, and his interception was more on the receiver than him. Receivers should catch those throws 99 out of 100. Our team was a mess with terrible leadership and crappy offense. This is probably the best situation for him to get a little experience in professional football. Granted no one on these squads made an NFL roster but the talent level is still higher than a college level team. It will be interesting to see who grabs him after the season is complete, providing he continues to play well.

Offensively, we added two really good Guards and a solid WR. We are giving Young more time to throw and at least one more reliable WR to go with Theilen. IMO this will improve our offense a lot. Defensively, we lost a couple of really good names, but we address our entire defensive front outside of Brown. All of these additions are really good at stopping the run. Our Achilles heel. We've added some good DBs and add them with Horn we'll be strong on the backend. I also like that 3 defenders we added were players that formally Evero players. On paper IMO we look much better than 2023. At minimum our defense will be equal to 2023 and offensively we should be better now that the O-Line is greatly improved and Young shows us that the O-line, lack of weapons and terrible scheme was his issue not his talent.

Here's why I believe it will be different. We've addressed the offensive line in a major way. We've added a WR that surely knows how to get open and give Young another target outside of Theilen. Defensively we've added several players that have played for Evero in the past so the learning curve for our defense won't be so bad. I just heard we have added 7 starters on defense. All equal or greater than the player they are replacing. None of these are extremely bad contracts where if they don't perform as we expect that we are in a major hole again. No GM hits on every free agent but I really like all of our signing and choose to be more optimistic than pessimistic.

Actually I don't go to NBC Sports or any other NBC outlet because they are very bad at what they do.

Not going to derail this post with my political views. Just pretty crappy reporting by NBC stating Clowney will be opposite Burns.

I know he's there too but the three I listed come to 24 Million. Give or take a Million.