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John Ellis on Stroud v Young
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Reich isn't Rhule. He's not going to take his boy over a better prospect. Just not happening. -
John Ellis on Stroud v Young
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
IMO that would be stupid. We at least have to see what he has. Makes no sense to cut him. I see Eason going before Corral. -
John Ellis on Stroud v Young
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Agreed they haven't said anything. There really isn't anything to say. They have very little first hand knowledge about him. THANK YOU VERY MUCH MATT RHULE. He could come in and really shine or he could just be another guy. I think he will do much better with Reich and McCown as his coaches. It will be really nice if he actually shows he can play and we have a solid backup to our future QB. I wouldn't say they don't have any plans for him. Develop him and who knows maybe we get another pick or two for him. -
John Ellis on Stroud v Young
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You've got him under contract for the next 3 seasons. Wouldn't it behoove us to work with him. It makes zero sense to have a QB on your roster and not develop him. Look what Washington did when they drafted RGIII. They also had Cousin and it paid off. I'm not implying that Corral would be Cousins but we are never going to find out until we give him some work. It's not all against odd that he could pan out. If he plays well than we have a good backup in case Young is as fragile as some believe. If Young isn't injury prone than we have trade capital. -
John Ellis on Stroud v Young
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I like Young. Though I have been a proponent of drafting Stroud, the more I think about it we are going to be drafting Young. My concerns are valid. His size is a factor. I watched the game where he hurt his shoulder and it wasn't that bad of a hit. In the NFL those hits will be 10-fold and it worries me that we draft a QB that won't last 4 or 5 seasons. I do think that Fitterer has to make the O-line a priority every season if we draft Young. We cannot go into a season with a mediocre or worst O-line. IT HAS TO BE TOP TIER. Stroud is more of a Reich kind of QB. Big, Tall and as the Georgia Game showed, mobile. Reich likes an RPO type of QB which Stroud is. However, Young has more intangibles that make it hard to pass on. You can't overlook his playmaking ability. As many of you know, I have been a huge Corral supporter and he will hopefully learn to be a good QB under Reich and McCown. This former draft pick also gives me reason to believe Young will be our pick. God knows no one wants him to get hurt and have to find out. But, Corral could be a strong reason we take Young. He's young and will get a chance to really develop behind Young. If Young were to go down we don't have look very far to bring in a QB. He'll be 3rd on the depth chart but will get a better chance to work with the offense than the farce work he got under Rhule. -
Panthers trade PK Zane Gonzalez
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I sure the hell hope they thought this out right. The Niners should be contending this year. If we swap picks it sounds like we will be dropping down in the draft instead of moving up. -
Happy with the signing but he has issues with not being able to play. I am glad it is only a one year deal. If he plays well in 2023 than we can talk something longer.
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I don't think anyone doubts his playmaking abilities. It is just when he get destroyed by a DE coming in on the blind side and blows him up. How many of those hits is he going to be able to withstand. If It were my choice, I am going to go with the QB that has a better chance of hanging around for more than a couple of seasons.
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How Carolina can / has already Improved the Passing Game
DaveThePanther2008 replied to MHS831's topic in Carolina Panthers
God knows we don't need to be known for our best weapon is a TE. -
i Honestly think this is where we are going. I think his interview at the combine showed he is an intelligent QB and with the proper coaching, which we have, will make him the best QB in this draft. Mabye sooner than later. I do believe we will do our due diligence and have each QB in for a visit and workout. I think Reich and McCown will see the potential and take a chance.
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Trading back to the Colts wouldn't be such a bad idea if Arizona was going to stay put at #3 but someone is going to trade up for that 3rd spot. So IMO if we trade down it will only be to #2. Having talks with Indy could press Houston to bite on moving up to #1. It would be great because they seem to love Young and he's their #1 pick which would give us picks and our QB Stroud.
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Panthers to host former Vikings WR Adam Thielen
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Adam was the man in Minnesota before Jefferson went there. I think he is an excellent route runner and will be a great fit for our scheme and our young QB. -
Food for thought on The Trade and the Pick.
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Doc Holiday's topic in Carolina Panthers
I am glad they haven't announced who they will draft. I agree that they have made up their mind but truthfully I can't say for 100% it's Stroud. Stroud seems to be the best option because Reich wants a QB that can run the RPO and I don't think Young is durable enough to run that type of offense. It's tough to overlook Young because he has that Mahomes ability. Stroud was right there with Richardson at the combine in the throwing portion. Young being a distant second, IMO could have us saying. If we only drafted Young. While he maybe the most ready I have a fear he'll end up like Tua after a couple of season of abuse. If we do draft Young we better ensure that our O-line is top tier. If we have Young and a weak line he'll disappear in no time. The darkhorse in my opinion is Richardson. I know many would absolutely lose their minds if we drafted him. But, IMO his ceiling might be greater than both Stroud and Young. The young man from what I have heard was exceptional in the interview portion of the combine. Not to mention he absolutely lit it up in the throwing portion of the combine. You combine that with two coaches that seem to know the QB position quite well. If we draft him and he took to the offense well, maybe he surprises us and starts game 1. So my opinion it's Stroud but deep in my heart I would love to see us take gamble and bring in Cam Jackson. -
What would you ask from Houston?
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Houston needs so much more than just a QB. Regardless of who they pick they are going to have a tough 2023. I'd take #2 and their 1st next year which most likely will be top 10. Maybe a 3rd in 2024. -
Corral bros.... what do we do now?????
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Sean Payton's Vicodin's topic in Carolina Panthers
I expect him to get some meaningful Reps this preseason. He'll be groomed to be a backup. You are relying on a rookie to start; you might as well have good young back up. It only benefits us for Reich and Co. to develop Corral. If he were to get some meaningful minutes, he could boost our chances of trading him for our 3rd back. -
Look IMO we have two really good coaches who know the QB position. If we were to trade down to #2 or #4 and I think we could get a 2024 #1 pick and some more draft capital. I really like Richardson and believe with our coaching staff they can get him up to speed pretty quickly. Regardless, we'll have either Stroud, Young or Richardson unless someone trades up to #3. Worst case Scenario we end up with Levis. The most important piece is we get our QB and we get some of the draft picks back we gave away. Could be a smart move. However, if we sit at #1. I'd rather take Stroud over Young. I just think Young is going to get destroyed and not last too long in the NFL.
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Per Matt Miller.. Panthers all in on Richardson?
DaveThePanther2008 replied to micnificent28's topic in Carolina Panthers
I agree. Mostly because we have some good coaches that can help him become the QB we want. -
Panthers founder Jerry Richardson passes away at 86
DaveThePanther2008 replied to mcsmoak's topic in Carolina Panthers
The battle the JR had to make a dream turn into reality is amazing. When he initially started the quest Carolina was a bigtime dark horse. He continued to battle and when it was all said and done. He proved the Carolina's could support a team. I remember the announcement and was jumping for joy. As a big fan of the NFL it was a very nice highlight in my life. JR Thank you for your diligence and bringing us the CAROLINA PANTHERS GOD REST YOUR SOUL AND REST IN PEACE -
Todd McShay seems to really like Anthony Richardson
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Dorian Gray's topic in Carolina Panthers
I agree with McShay. Richardson could be a bust but his potential to be a QB in the mold of Newton/Hurts is hard to overlook. I would not trade up for him but if he were at #9 I think we'll take a shot. I personally don't think any of the 4 QBs are going to be there at #9. I guess I will feel more comfortable when the free agent QBs find new teams. Atlanta, Seattle, LV and possibly the Bears could screw up the whole thing by drafting a QB. -
Why would you give up picks to get a QB that is going to be released. I never said he was for sure going to be our QB. I don't know what Reich, Fitterer and Tepper want. Someone in that group may not want a retread QB. I was saying the Colts tried 3x to get him. You asked for proof so you got it. I do believe he is an option. You move the goal post when you ask for something and you get your answer.
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Why would they move on it. Why trade when most knew he was going to be release....Duuuhh
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Not true, Carr wants to explore all his options.
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I don't see in the article where it mentions Irsay anywhere. BTW this article is not the one I posted in another thread a week or two ago.