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Everything posted by DaveThePanther2008
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Well I won't be throwing anything at the TV if we select Pitts. He is going to cause problems for every team in the league. If we have 2 of the biggest threats in the game (CMC and Pitts) our offense is going to be scary.
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Go on record: WHO DO YOU WANT!
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Brooklyn 3.0's topic in Carolina Panthers
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If New England, Denver and WFT get in a bidding war we could potentially get a 1st next year. Which I would be extremely happy with. If Darnold doesn't impress we have 2 first that we can use deal with. Whether it's Watson (if he somehow clears all his problems) or any of the prospects from next year. Imagine the WFT drafting Lance and he has a poor season but shows potential that pick could be top 10. If Darnold fails (IMO he won't) than we could potentially have 2 picks on the top 10. If he plays well we could have 2 picks in the top 20.
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As I think of it, it plays in our favor somewhat. If Denver doesn't try and move up it could get other teams that are interested in him to move up ahead of Denver The more distant we are between draft picks the more draft capital it will cost them. Maybe far enough between where we can get a 1st next year as well as this year.
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What I like the most about this trade is the fact we lose nothing this year other than a 6th round pick. Since we have an extra 6th we have picks in every round this year to build a team behind him. If we gave up a 2nd and 4th we lost 1/4 of our draft this year. Options in the draft. Take Rhule's preferred OT and build a great line for Darnold to work with. If a QB is available take him as insurance and competition for Darnold Trade down with Chicago or New England or anyone who will trade and pick up an extra 1st in 2022. If Darnold Fails we have 2 first rounders to use to move up and get Howell or the best prospect in the draft. If Darnold is solid we have 2 first to add more help and replace players that we cannot afford. This trade would also offset the lose of the 2nd rounder we gave up for Darnold. Take Pitts or another offensive weapon to help Darnold Solidify our defense with another stud at LB or DB (no D-line worthy of a top 8 pick)
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Trading up to three would leave us with Jones, Fields and Lance. Wilson is going to be gone at 2 to the Jets. Staying at 8 may leave us with one of them. I think they made the right decision on negotiating with the Jets for Darnold. Though many think we gave too much for Darnold we have to remember they wanted a 1st for him. We stood strong and got him for much less, plus we kept most of our draft picks for this year. I am impressed with the negotiations and got him for a fair deal.
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To trash a player that played so well for us over the years because his brother didn't pan out is absolutely insane. He recommended Darnold because he believes that with his work ethic and our coaching staff he can become the player everyone thought a 1st rounder would become. I'd also like to point out that the majority of talking heads on NFL Network, ESPN, Fox and other outlets say that Darnold was ruined by a bad coach and no talent around him. To me this gives me hope that Darnold will be one of the greatest moves we've ever made. I will enjoy watching all the negative Nancies on this forum eat crow when Darnold proves them wrong.
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Whitehead was a miss but we had quite of few additions that surprised us. I hope we that these additions were not just names but players we targeted. I've always been an optimistic person. Fitterer and Rhule hopefully have a plan and these players pan out. Defensively I think we have added some good pieces. The draft I still think will be mostly on offense but not completely especially in the latter rounds. Every year I go in hoping we will be competitive and win and make the playoffs. Ya never know.
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There are some that rate Slater above Sewell. Not many but a few. Slater is a stud and If Sewell isn't there he'll be one of our options. I've kind of jumped on the Pitts bandwagon lately just because he is going to be a big problem for defense and I'd rather have him than have to face him. Especially if Atlanta gets him.
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Backup RB? Giovani Bernard released.
DaveThePanther2008 replied to hepcat's topic in Carolina Panthers
He would bring a good element to our offense and could spell CMC and not lose much production. He's not as quick as CMC but is a solid veteran but a dual threat like CMC. -
Report: CB AJ Bouye close to deal with Panthers
DaveThePanther2008 replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Bradberry had zero Pro Bowls but was a Pro Bowl caliber DB. Just because he didn't make the squad doesn't mean he didn't have a good year. Denver may not have used him to his strength. They were just as bad as we were. I think the addition of Bouye is going to be great. Granted it won't be until game three. I also believe Pride will be better too. We'll have a real offseason this year and with his experience from last year Pride our CB group is starting to look promising. -
Thanks for the post. There are many on here that believe that this was a terrible trade. I'm not one of them. I think the change of scenery and our coaching staff will help him. They won't baby him and will expect him to improve but I think Darnold is excited about this and will come in guns a blazing. When I was younger, I was a Johnny Unitas fan and never understood why the Colts didn't put him in at the beginning of the 2nd half of Super Bowl 3. It's sad to think that it's been over 50 years since the Jets have smelled the Super Bowl. I wish you guys luck with Wilson. I think he'll be the real deal. I just hope your new coach protects him because they damn sure didn't protect Darnold. It's great to get your perspective on Darnold and believe he'll succeed. Maybe your input will help ease the mind of so many that hated this trade. Thanks and Good Luck Go Jets Beat the Patriots.
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Panthers sign Former XFL lineman Martez Ivey
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Gipetto's topic in Carolina Panthers
Fill out the 90 man roster with as many potential sleepers we can. -
Darnold part of the draft day strategy
DaveThePanther2008 replied to JawnyBlaze's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Darnold part of the draft day strategy
DaveThePanther2008 replied to JawnyBlaze's topic in Carolina Panthers
And if Darnold plays well in 2021 we could trade him for a 3rd and make up for some of that lost draft capital. -
I think the deal is a good one and a smart gamble by our front office. 3 Questions 1. Who was the head coach for the Miami Dolphins when Ryan Tannehill was their QB? Answer Adam Gaze 2. Who was the head coach for the NY Jets when Sam Darnold was their QB? Answer Todd Bowles 2018/ Adam Gaze 2019-2020 3. What happened to the QB for the Miami Dolphins, when Gaze was the head coach, once he was traded to Tennessee? Answer Pro Bowl level QB. I'll take my chances that Gaze had more to do with Darnold's failures and that lightning will strike twice once Darnold leaves NYJ. Excuse me Frank Reich but we're going to borrow your old number.
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Trade down to the Patriots @ 15 and their 46 pick . They can get WR help for Cam. We take the top CB available and use our two 2nd round picks for the best available OT at 39 and draft Creed Humphrey at 46.
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I'm with @Mage You usually have great takes and I value your opinion. But like Mage I don't see a better option. If we trade up we are going to lose this years 1st, next years first and possibly 2023 first year pick just because of the desire to move up to get one of the remaining questionable QBs. IMO it's going to be Lance or Fields. Both have huge question marks on whether they will be suitable QBs in the NFL not to mention franchise QBs. The 4th and the 6th rounders are very easy to swallow and we are only talking one valuable 2nd rounder. I can only assume that the Panthers do not want to gamble that much draft capital and the Darnold trade was a better option. I posted in another thread 4 takes from people at NFL Network and all 4 say the same thing. Darnold had little help in NYJ and poor coaching. He has the tools to succeed. We should be thankful that we didn't trade for Watson before his legal issues came up. We would have been without draft capital and our new QB. There have been several QBs to move from their original team and succeeded including three HOFers (Steve Young, Curt Warner and Brett Favre) and future HOFer Drew Brees and also include Jake Delhomme and Ryan Tannehill. Not trying to be condescending but we know your hatred of the deal. What would you rather us do? and why?
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Nowhere is it written that if either fall to 8 we don't take him. IMO this will be a historic draft. 4 QBs in the first 4 picks. Regardless of who is left (Fields, Lance or Jones) someone is going to trade up ahead of us to grab that last QB. Supposedly, we are picking up his 5th year option. Two years to evaluate. If he sucks at the end of 2 years we'll have Bridgewater off the books and a fresh start. If he plays well next year we sign him to a long term contract.
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This is a win win situation. Yall need to stop trippin
DaveThePanther2008 replied to Agent Blue's topic in Carolina Panthers
I just watched a couple of videos from NFL Network and all of them say the same thing. Darnold had poor coaching and no talent around him. If we address our O-line in this draft he'll have protection and talent around him. After watching these videos I believe Darnold is going to excel in Carolina. Battista seems to know her stuff about the Jets and I enjoyed her take. NFL Network's Kurt Warner: 'Can't say I'm fully surprised' the Carolina Panthers traded for quarterback Sam Darnold NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport: Carolina Panthers head coach Matt Rhule has been a 'huge fan' of quarterback Sam Darnold since interviewing for New York Jets job NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah: Quarterback Sam Darnold trade is a 'win-win-win' for QB, Carolina Panthers, New York Jets NFL Network's Judy Battista: Former New York Jets quarterback Sam Darnold will have a 'better chance at success' in Carolina