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I would take Sewell over Pitts, but the Panthers are starting to show their hand imo. Based on what we've been doing lately, I think the Panthers think Sewell will be gone, and we don't want Pitts. That points to our Panthers thinking Trey Lance will be available, and I think that is the pick.

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I honestly don't think Rhule is the right coach for this organization. He is the one who wanted Teddy, and he actually thought we were going to pay him more money when he saw the contract. He thought we got a deal for Teddy. That is not who I want as our coach. Then with the Washington game looming Rhule was determined to win in order to teach his players how to win in December. As if the players learned something in that game that was more valuable than us drafting Wilson or Fields. As if the players suddenly became vets by beating a team that had a QB who couldn't complete a pass. Now we have a GM who is in on every big FA deal, loses out on all of them, and signs backups. That's not going to get it done in the NFCS with TB signing dominant superstars. We just have the wrong team in place, and our owner is fed up and pressing the panic button on the QB situation. He knows we're not going anywhere with the current plan in place. Teddy and building slowly = 8-8 limbo. Pointless. And it kills me that none of this had to happen. Bad choices led us here.

If we go 11-5 with Teddy then that means our NFCS rivals were decimated by the injury bug, and we stayed healthy.

I think we can go somewhere around 8-8 with Teddy. He can make enough short and mid-range passes to beat struggling teams and bottom feeders, and we'll knock off a decent team here and there. The problem is that 8-8ish is the worst thing that can happen. It puts us out of range for the top QBs in the draft, and it gives the coaches hope that we're only a few more players away from the playoffs. This is what I call QB limbo. The limbo was started by Rhule when he decided he wanted Teddy rather than letting us bottom out and draft Lawrence. Grier would have led us to Lawrence, or at worst Wilson. Rhule chose QB limbo instead, and now we have to trade the future get of limo, or just keep floundering for several more seasons of pointless 8-8 records. The only one thing I don't want for the Panthers is QB limbo. I'd much rather bottom out at 0-16 and have the hope of taking the top QB, than win 8 games and have no hope for the future.

And we had fans here who wanted us to beat Washington. Just dopey.

I just can't see SF trading up for Jones.

Sewell and the 4 QBs will be gone by the 8th pick imo. We're paying the price for winning the Washington game, and bringing in Teddy to try and win in a pointless season.

Not even close. I'd be shocked and my remote would be embedded in the ceiling.

Yeah he can fly, and I don't think they updated the program.

In fairness I do know know about Dan Arnold. I did ignore a lot of Covid games by other teams last season.

If that happens then we're looking at 3 potential pro-bowl WRs. I think we would have our sights on Chase, but a decent trade offer from a WR hungry team would do the trick. Which team would want to trade? The Patriots are at the 15 pick, so not too far from us, and they have trash at WR. Straight trash. If the Pats have a strong desire to be able to pick from Chase, Waddle, and Smith, then they might call us. If they stay put then they will watch all 3 WRs disappear in front of them.

Odds we will sign someone I've actually ever heard of? Looking low so far.

I am a major proponent of building the o-line if the big 4 are gone. I want a trade down if Sewell and the other big 4 are off the table. If we're looking at Chase with the 8th pick, then I think a team slightly lower than us in need of a #1 wr will make an offer. I hope we take the offer and rebuild the o-line. Having said all that, if we don't have an offer we need to take one of the top WRs because that is where the value will be. Having another lethal WR is not some sort of head scratching problem for our OC. Let's not be silly.

If we want a true LT with proper value at 8th then we need to hope Sewell falls, and that is certainly not a pipe draft. It could happen, and if it does then I predict the Panthers will Sewell assuming the big 4 QBs are gone.

If you mean trade down for Slater lower in round one, then yes I agree. Slater at 8, never in a million years. Short arms = RT or OG. Chase has way more value than Slater and it's not even close. having DJ and Chase at #1 and #2 would make our offense lethal. I'm all for drafting a LT, but we need proper value for the pick. Slater is a teens value pick.

Chase has the potential to become a Pro-Bowl WR. That's what you want when drafting at the 8th pick. Having two #1 quality WRs on the roster worked out well for the SB champion Bucs. We'd be a matchup nightmare for any defense we faced. Also if DJ is injured at some point our offense doesn't become worthless, and we can be special with Chase and DJ on the field at the same time. As for the o-line, even with Okung missing most of the season with injury TB often had plenty of time to throw, or faced interior pressure (hence Pat Elflein.) What we can do is move Moton to LT, and draft one of the many good quality RTs who will be available at the top of the second round.

My prediction with 4 QBs gone, and Sewell, Waddle, Smith gone, is that the Panthers select: WR - Ja'Marr Chase.

Slater's short arms will keep him out of the top ten picks imo. Slater might have to move to guard. The top 8 picks will be offensive players, TD passers and TD scorers with the exception being the best OT, Penei Sewell, going somewhere in the top 10. The draft has plenty of excellent CB available, so we could easily draft one in the second or third round. No chance are we drafting a CB at eight, there isn't one worth it compared to the WRs we'll have falling to us if 4 QBs go ahead of us. If Sewell is gone, and 4 QBs went, then we'll either trade down or take a WR. I'm in favor of trading down if the 4 QBs are gone because that means next season is another lost season. Flush it. Get as many higher picks as possible and plan to draft a QB in next years draft. No need to draft Mac Jones, the idea of him ever winning a SB is a joke. Trey Lance, aka Cannon Arm, is our best chance but if the big 4 are gone then it's a wrap. The big 4 QBs going will certainly push a #1 quality WR right into our lap. If you stay put, then clearly you take the WR and go into next season with a top 3 WR corps. A top quality CB will be available at our second round pick. The top priority is scoring TDs, and a top WR trumps a top CB any day of the week. Expect a WR at #8, or a trade down if the QBs are gone.

So you know our draft plans? Nope. Does the media? Nope. Case closed.