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I think Deonte Brown will end up being cut unless he has transformed himself quiet a lot.

This guys opinion about Baker is pure trash. Here is some data: Name, College, NFL Team – Ball Velocity in MPH Josh Allen Wyoming 62 Logan Thomas, Virginia Tech, Bills (TE) - 60 Bryan Bennet, SE Louisiana, CFL- 60 Pat Mahomes, Texas Tech, Chiefs- 60 ****************Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma, Browns 60****************** Jacob Eason, Washington- 59 Jake Luton, Oregon State- 59 Steven Montez, Colorado- 59 Davis Webb, California, Jets- 59 Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State, free agent– 59 Colin Kaepernick, Nevada, free agent- 59 Kirk Cousins, Michigan State, Vikings- 59 Zac Dysert, Miami (OH), free agent- 59 Tyler Bray, Tennessee, Bears- 59 Stephen Morris, Miami, free agent- 59 Paxton Lynch, Memphis, Seahawks- 59 Jared Goff, California, Rams - 58 Ryan Mallett, Arkansas, free agent- 58 Austin Davis, Southern Mississippi, free agent- 58 Kevin Davidson, Princeton- 57 Carson Wentz, North Dakota State, Eagles- 57 Nick Foles, Arizona, Bears- 57 Mark Sanchez, USC, free agent- 57 Josh Freeman, Kansas State, Free Agent - 57 Chase Daniels, Missouri, Bears- 57 Chandler Harnish, Northern Illinois, free agent- 57 Tom Savage, Pittsburgh, free agent- 57 Sean Mannion, Oregon State, Vikings- 57 Brandon Bridge, South Alabama, free agent - 57 DeShon Kizer, Notre Dame, Packers- 56 Andy Dalton, TCU, Bengals - 56 Cam Newton, Auburn, Panthers - 56 Colt McCoy, Texas, Redskins- 56 (recorded in a private workout with a radar gun & computer chip in the football) Ryan Nassib, Syracuse, free agent– 56 Curtis Painter, Purdue, free agent- 56 Brad Sorensen, Southern Utah, free agent - 56 Patrick Devlin, Delaware, free agent- 56 Josh Woodrum, Liberty, free agent- 56 Blake Bortles, Central Florida, Rams- 56 Jimmy Garoppolo, Eastern Illinois, 49ers- 56 Marcus Mariota, Oregon, Titans - 56 Jacoby Brissett, North Carolina State, Colts- 56 Jeff Mathews, Cornell, free agent - 56 Keith Wenning, Ball State, Giants - 56 Joel Stave, Wisconsin, Chiefs - 56 Christian Hackenberg, Penn State, free agent- 56 Anthony Boone, Duke, free agent - 56 Justin Herbert, Oregon- 55 Mitchell Trubisky, North Carolina, Bears- 55 Jerod Evans, Virginia Tech, TBD - 55 Trevor Knight, Texan A&M, AAF- 55 Jameis Winston, Florida State, Buccaneers - 55 Joe Flacco, Delaware, Broncos- 55 Geno Smith, West Virginia, Chargers- 55 CJ Beathard, Iowa, 49ers- 55 Trevon Boykin, TCU, Seahawks - 55 Russell Wilson, Wisconsin, Seahawks - 55 Brandon Allen, Arkansas, Jaguars - 55 Cody Kessler, USC, Browns - 55 Cody Fajardo, Nevada, free agent - 55 Jordan Lynch, Northern Illinois, free agent - 55 Casey Keenum, Houston, Redskins- 55 Tyler Wilson, Arkansas, free agent - 55 Scott Tolzien, Wisconsin, free agent- 55 James Morgan, Florida International- 54 Jordan Love, Utah State- 54 Jalen Hurts, Oklahoma- 54 Nate Stanley, Iowa - 54 Dak Prescott, Mississippi State, Cowboys - 54 Tajh Boyd, Clemson, free agent - 54 Bryn Renner, North Carolina, free agent - 54 Nate Sudfeld, Indiana, Eagles- 54 Jake Locker, Washington, free agent- 54 EJ Manuel, Florida State, Chiefs- 54 Matthew Scott, Arizona, free agent - 54 Jake Fromm, Georgia- 53 Nathan Peterman, Pittsburgh, Raiders- 53 Brad Kaaya, Miami, Bengals- 53 David Fales, San Jose State, free agent- 53 AJ McCarron, Alabama, free agent- 53 Brett Hundley, UCLA, Cardinals- 53 Kevin Hogan, Stanford, free agent- 53 Brandon Doughty, Western Kentucky, free agent- 53 Vernon Adams, Oregon, free agent - 53 Mitch Leidner, Minnesota, TBD - 53 Bryce Petty, Baylor, free agent- 53 Dustin Vaughan, West Texas A&M, free agent- 53 Landry Jones, Oklahoma, free agent- 53 Chad Henne, Michigan, Chiefs- 53 Stephen McGee, Texas A & M - 53 ********************Sam Darnold - 52******************************** Anthony Gordon, Washington State- 52 Shane Carden, Eastern Carolina, free agent, 52 Jeff Driskel, Louisiana Tech, Bengals - 52 Seth Russell, Baylor, TBD - 52 Graham Harrell, Texas Tech, free agent - 52 Pat White, West Virginia, free agent - 52 Kellen Moore, Boise State, coaching- 52 TJ Yates, North Carolina, free agent - 52 Michael Kafka, Northwestern, free agent - 52 Zac Robinson, Oklahoma St., free agent - 52 Ryan Lindley, San Diego State, free agent - 52 Brian Lewerke, Michigan State- 51 Cole McDonald, Hawaii- 51 Shea Patterson, Michigan - 51 Josh Dobbs, Tennessee, Steelers-51 Jerry Lovelocke, Praire View A&M, free agent - 51 Christian Ponder, Florida St, free agent - 51 Colby Cameron, Louisiana Tech, free agent - 51 Matt Flynn, LSU, free agent -- 50 John Skelton, Fordham, free agent - 50 Ricky Stanzi, Iowa, free agent - 50 Tyrod Taylor, Va Tech, Chargers- 50 Connor Cook, Michigan, free agent- 50 Connor Shaw, South Carolina, free agent- 50 Nick Marshall, Auburn, free agent- 50 Deshaun Watson, Clemson, Texans- 49 Michael Glennon, North Carolina State, Raiders- 49 Josh Johnson, San Diego, Redskins- 49 Kelly Bryant, Missouri- 47 Sefo Liufau, Colorado, TBD - 46 Cooper Rush, Central Michigan, Cowboys- 46 Blake Sims, Alabama, free agent - 42

I hate that Sam is taking up a roster spot, but we're on the hook for a lot of money because of Fitt's idiotic blunder. I can't envision Sam beating out Baker for the starting spot, but at the same time if he does then I think that's it for Rhule and Fitt. Too many mistakes for them too keep their jobs. They ran this ship straight into the rocks.

I think Baker will maker a few funny comments. He seems like a jokester.

We have enough talent to have a winning season if Baker plays really well. If not, then we're looking at 6-7 wins imo. We'll know in the first 3 games how the season is going to go. We need to start 3-0.

420 friendly and a looker? Sign me up.

Go watch this for a laugh, or to feel some pain depending on your personality.

It's funny thinking about Teddy's ending here. I remember in the weeks leading up the end of the season Rhule had been harping on how none of his players were allowed to reach the ball out at the goal line. He had been telling players and the media that we don't do that. Then the last game of the season (I think the last) Teddy stuck the ball out at the goal line and I think he fumbled on 3rd down. I'm sure Rhule was ready to strangle him.

Who is the lady on the right?

That sign isn't going to stop mistakes from being made, but it will certainly humiliate the multimillionaire grown men who have to go over and touch it.

Basically the HC and GM have to land a top tier QB or prospect. Otherwise you're team, no matter what you do with the scheme or overall talent, will be either lower tier or a bottom feeder. I don't care about outlier teams that had a good season with a lower tier QB. Sustained success comes from having a highly talented QB. Fitt and Rhule failed with Teddy, Sam, and Cam. We now have Baker and at some point Rhule and Fitt will be dumped for bringing in QBs who are not good enough for sustained success. Teddy was good enough to allow us to beat bottom tier teams, and miracle out a win here or there against a better team. Not anywhere near good enough to expect playoff wins no matter what we did in team building. The crazy thing was that we all expected just that before he even started for us. With Sam I had no positive expectations whatsoever. I expected him to fail, and he did exactly that. How is it that Huddlers knew better than our GM and HC? Our expectations played out, and their expectations were WAY off. Not even close. Fitt and Rhule will be fired in a few years imo. They can't find QBs.

I want coaches who have proven their talent at the NFL level. College OCs can go to a big school and have track stars outrun DBs and look like geniuses. College HCs can make a great sales pitch and recruit above what the school should be able to get, but that doesn't translate to the NFL.

I knew when Robby was out there telling the team we needed to run some hitch and go routes because the opposing defense was sitting our routes and we did nothing but run the same poop add nausea Joe was a problem. He didn't adjust the offense, we just ran the same poop the whole game. One CMC went down it was over. Yes Sam is terrible, but Joe doesn't adjust.

Our offense will be play action pass to try and free up targets for Mayfield to make easier throws. That will work just fine given our talent level UNLESS CMC is injured. If we lose CMC then it's a poop show until he returns.

On the surface I am thrilled with our secondary. Physically we have two number 1 CBs, and a number 2 CB. We have not had this much talent at CB since we had Lucas and Gamble, at least on the surface. If Horn and Henderson play up to their talent level, then we'll be able to be very aggressive on defense. And then we have DJax playing wherever (slot) and Chinn at Safety. Yikes we've got a lot of talent in the secondary. Doesn't matter at all though for 2022 because we don't have a top QB. Teams will eat up our secondary because we'll throw too many picks and they'll run our defense to death. 2023 we'll draft a top QB and then we'll be in business.

The cameras might catch the QB coach drinking hard liqueur on the job.

Has Sam made any comments?

Baker is better than Sam, but I have a feeling BOA is going to be empty by the middle of the season. That's a lot money to spend on the QB position for an empty stadium. This plan had better work or that could be it for Rhule and Fitt imo.

Rhule has until the end of his contract to produce a good team imo. I've always thought that.

We need to follow a basic rule, when a team is dying to get rid of a QB they've had for multiple seasons and drafted high STAY AWAY. The Jets knew Darnold better than Rhule and Fitt and they wanted his ass gone.

My expectation is that we win around 6 games. We're a bad QB team, but we'll beat some other bad QB teams because we've been drafting high for some time now. We'll run into to teams that have less talent and are rebuilding. That being said, I fully expect an awful season. Unless Sam has somehow learned how to play QB we're toast.

Physically he has all the tools to be a #1 CB. I think it's the mental side of the game that is holding him back. If he catches on to our defense he can be dominant. If he doesn't then he won't be offered a second contract.