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I can't think of a Panthers defense that is as bad as this one. The tackling attempts are painful to watch. The slowness. Zero pass rush. Worst Panthers defense ever? I think so. On offense it really comes down to who we are playing. Tight defense in the secondary, good pass rush, good run defense, and we're cooked. Dalton isn't good enough to handle that, and we don't run the ball enough even when it's working. Canales wants to run a lot of his pass plays to try and scheme people open, but the Bears locked him up. That's when you run the ball if you know what's good for you.

Dalton was up against tight secondary defense, and a lethal pass rush. That's asking a lot of any QB, and Dalton is ordinary and old. He can't be the world beater who just makes one amazing pass after another. On a good team he can steer the ship. On a bad team we're dead in the water. We have a horrendous team. Just look at the defense. Pass coverage looser than a wizards sleeve, zero pass rush, and terrible tackling. On offense we have journeymen WRs who can't get open and win 50/50 balls against top quality secondaries. They can get open against lower tier secondaries, but that's no the Bears. They had them covered tightly. Dalton is not Mahomes. He's not superhuman. You're asking too much. One hard throw after another is a recipe for disaster. He can't keep that up, and Young can't do it either. We basically have the worst defense in Panthers history. On offense we can only cook if we're facing a lower tier defense. Once the we face tight coverage and a solid pass rush we're in deep trouble, and the defense couldn't bail out an ounce of water. The defense would allow a 50 burger if the opposing team wanted to go for that instead of killing the clock. 50 burger defense means our offense has to look amazing, but overall the roster is poop. What to do? Young is still on the team. It looks to me like we're keeping him. If that's the case, then we might as well put him in and see what happens. This team, with this defense, has no chance whatsoever of making the playoffs. There is no way. But can Young make a comeback? I say use this season to find out. We know this is another dreadful lost season. We know it's over. Find out about Young, and move on if he doesn't show improvement. Dalton can be good on a good team, but he's only ordinary and getting older. We need a couple of off seasons to rebuild this roster. By the time we're ready to go it will be too late for Dalton. I hate it, but this is the aftermath of Fitt's mistakes. This can't be fixed anytime soon. We're cooked, but we can find out more about Young. Might as well, and if he's terrible all season then it's easy to trade him.

Who? j/k

Yeah if I had to rate the post Cam era: Dalton Bridgewater Mayfield Darnold Cooked Cam Young Just a crazy time of spinning our wheels and accomplishing nothing, and then last ass backwards into the Red Rifle.

Yeah Andy is a good leader and his QB play is acceptable. He can finish his career here, but this defense is yeeeeeessshhhh. Happy for Andy. He's doing all he can with what he has available. We just don't have the roster.

The thing about Young being benched is that now we know exactly what we have talent wise. We have no pass rush, and defenders who miss too many tackles and allow too much YAC. On offense we have good interior pass protection, so-so exterior pass protection, WRs who are decent but don't win enough on 50/50 balls and have inconsistent hands. Taken all together, along with other factors, and you have a lower tier team that isn't rock bottom, but isn't going to sniff the playoffs. The top priority now is obviously to improve the pass rush in the 2025 draft. Fitt was an awful GM, and too many of his draft picks didn't pan out. We should have traded Brain Burns for two first round picks, and kept CMC. This team with a healthy CMC is close to making the playoffs imo.

I'd trade him for a 1st, but no way in hell for a 2nd and some scraps. No thanks. We have WRs who can produce right now, and an aging QB. Don't take Dalton's weapons away with the idea of slowly bringing some rookies in to learn. If Dalton is clicking with a vet, then the vet stays unless we get a crazy offer. 1st round pick would be a crazy offer, but anything less and hell no to that.

Zavala worries me. He was beyond horrible in the past, but I'm hoping he's improved. If you're going to keep an eye on anyone it's Zavala.

So we're still below the Raiders? I think not. I just want competitive games. Stay in the fight and make it interesting to watch. I don't think Dalton can keep playing at the level of the Raiders game, he'd be league MVP and we'd win the SB, but if he can give us like 80% of that going forward, then we can have a good season.

I think I'm overstimulated haha

O-line step up.

I don't really remember the last Panthers game I was excited for. Thank you for benching Bryce Canales.

How much will he win?

I've heard of Perc Rodgers, but Benzo Young? I think you're on to something.

If we land a top quality QB in the 2025 draft, then we can possibly be good in 2026. If we pick another bust QB, then kick the can further down the road. That's why when it's between Young and Stroud you have to have a GM who knows which one is better. Like Dan Morgan, his staff, and Canales have to identify the right QB. Our fate rides on who they find. The rest is easily fixed once a QB is in place. Best case scenario, we're good in 2026.

We don't want Andy throwing the ball a lot. He's the type where he looks good and everything is going fine and then he throws a brainless pick. We need a little razzle dazzle and run the ball. The defense has got to keep the score lowish because if we have to throw a lot to try and catch up we're cooked.

We'll know in the coming years if he's good or not, but I don't have any problem with the last draft. He didn't take the players I wanted, but he did some nice trade backs and appeared to get decent value. The key is the next QB we draft, and Dan will defer to Canales on that.

The worst case scenario is that Dan doesn't know what he's doing and we face several more years of disastrous failure. Hope and pray (or petition the universe if you're atheist) that Dan knows what he's doing as GM.

Oh I wasn't going to watch them, but I see your point.

Fitt was insane and filled our owner with idiotic notions of Bryce being some sort of Steph Curry who was going to distribute the ball around and allow us to focus our spending on defense. Those ideas didn't come from Tepper, they came from our former resident idiot Fitt. Fitt, who thought all we needed to do was drop a QB into place since we had all the other pieces in place. The GM is the critical piece to all of this mess.

Dalton is no world beater, but Bryce doesn't belong in the QB room with him. No contest Andy is considerably better. At least we can look forward to some positive plays on offense on Sunday. Then we hit the draft in 2025 looking for a QB. Fair enough.

Young has looked liked one the worst QBs I've ever seen start in the NFL. If Tepper sped up him getting benched I hardly care at all. Flush the toilet. Fitt's mistakes here will haunt all of us until we've been rid of the specter of his blunders. That means clearing out his busted picks including the most impotent, emotionless, sometimes sad sack QB ever, Bryce Young.

I like Dalton and I think he'll make the games more fun to watch on Sundays. He's a real pro in that he'll step up into the pocket and deliver the ball. He should have a good clean pocket with our extremely expensive interior o-linemen. Dalton will throw a dumb pick here and there, but so did Brady. Just play like a pro QB and we've got a chance.

Another game no one will remember a year from now, and few will actually watch. I'll record the game and watch our offense only at a later time. No need to watch this live and sit through commercials. Pointless game.