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I think we're going to lose but we came out hot and looked great early.

Sheault broken fibula possibly. Crap.

CJ is crazy he could have just gotten his arm broken trying to pop a ball out.

Shenault was looking brokenhearted.

I hate this season.

No Shenault!!!

We're starting to revert back to our old ways. Right back into losing football.

Wish granted.

The blocking could have been better for Shenault. Hopefully it's just an ankle injury.

Getting Shanault out there in space was a good idea he's load to bring down but he couldn't get it. Not too bad of an idea.

Young's biggest weakness is his deep ball.

Fins look like they took the week off and thought we were complete trash.

Did the spread end up being 14 points?

If that's true then it would have had to come from Tepper because there is a quote from Rhule that he told Marty he didn't want to stay put with that pick. Rhule tried to get Marty to move and he said that on video and I saw the interview. It could have been a Tepper override.

The GM has to have the authority to build the roster as he sees fit. Then if he fails to obtain the right players to win, you can fire him with good cause. Our undoing really is a tale of QBs. We didn't trade up for Justin Herbert and we easily could have done so, and that cost us a decade of success. We brought in Teddy Bridgewater which was a mistake (stated QB limbo/purgatory). We brought in Sam Darnold which was a worse mistake than Teddy (continued QB limbo but with lower quality QB and loss of draft picks). We brought in Baker Mayfield for 5 million, but the least costly QB mistake in the Fitt era, but pointless nonetheless. We drafted Matt Corral which was a moderately costly mistake in terms of draft capital. You can't pass on drafting Herbert, who was easily obtainable, and then bring in 4 QBs who are backup quality and then expect anything but misery. No matter who was responsible for the QB decisions, the only outcome was that we were going to get our asses handed to us from 2018 to 2023. You have to hit on a QB. Marty went Jake, Matt, Pickles, Cam. 2 hits out of 4. Not too bad, and Marty's 1st round picks were fire, like ring of honor Panthers players, and we got Olsen for a steal. Fitt has not hit on a QB excluding Young who is still an unknown at this point. Ultimately Young will decide Fitt's fate, and ours short team as well.

I have no hope of Fitt getting us good deal on the trade, so I'll settle for a fair deal. Let's just break even if we make the deal. Just don't get us killed as per usual.

Yeah I don't mean get one right now.

Frank just got here, so it would take a scandal to get rid of him. Fitt has made plenty of terrible decisions, but his fate is tied to how Young turns out. He has until it's clear Young is a bust, or he'll retire here if Young is a star.

I don't want him anyway. We need someone much better. Fitt has bigger fish to fry. Who am I kidding Fitt will bring us trash.

Depends on what Evero is telling Fitt about who he wants to use in his defense, and who we need to trade. Evero will want this roster changed for sure to fit his system, and obviously the current roster will change a lot if and when it can be done in a cost effective manner. Defensive vets should be traded as soon as fair deal can be drawn up. This allows for Evero to mold the defense into what he wants, and it frees up money that we don't need to be spending on defense when we're nowhere close to being a good team. The vets can be replaced with Evero approved draft picks and young low price free agent players who fit our system perfectly. That way the rookie defensive players learn while Young is learning. You don't want expensive vets at the top of their game eating up huge cap space while Young is still learning. That money can be shifted to the offensive side of the ball, so as to protect Young and make it easier to evaluate him. All defensive vets who want big contracts should be traded. All players who don't fit Evero's system should be traded when possible. Money freed up goes to the offensive side of the ball within reason. Holes in the defense should be filled by rookie draft picks approved by Evero, and budget vets. Then we go shopping with serious cash to bring in highly talented offensive players. Juice the offense up big time, and let the defense be a work in progress. The defense can be fixed with future drafts and maturation.

Yeah it's a good reminder that we didn't get here by accident. We were mismanaged right down to the rock bottom on the NFL. Fitt's mistakes put us here.

Here is what fans were saying the first time around with the Burns Rams deal. It's a pretty funny thread.

I late 1st round pick OLB selected by Fitt would be a major downgrade form Burns imo. We've got to hold out hope that we can get something better.

Needs to be more than that. Fitt values Burns at more that 2 firsts and a second. We should be able to get more. it would be great if we could get a bidding war going. I'm trying to stay positive. This deal would be a major loss.

I said trade Burns at the time. Fantastic deal. I said I didn't want Darnold at the time, and we extremely overpaid for him. I said don't extend Jackson at the time. The problems I have with Fitt I had at the time it was happening. This is not after the fact 20/20 hindsight. I said last summer that Fitt's top priority needed to be acquiring a real #1 WR. He failed. I said so at the time. Now look at our passing offense. Going forward, we need to trade Burns and Brown if we can get good offers. The CMC money that is eating up our cap space will be gone next season. If we clear out Burns and Brown so they don't get mega contracts, then add to that Young is on his rookie deal, we'll have plenty of cap space to go out and get cream of the crop receivers, including a real top quality #1 WR. Add to the offense in free agency, and go into the draft looking for DE and OLB. That's what you do going forward. Yes the defense will not be as good, but the offense will have top quality veteran weapons. That way you know if Young is legit or not in 2024. Then in the 2025 draft you finish rebuilding the defense. And let's say we don't find a guy as good as Burns in the draft. Who cares? If we have a potent offense, then it won't matter that much. And if the offense sucks even loaded with weapons, then what does it matter that our OLB isn't as good as Burns? We'll need another a QB at that point.