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I watched Brees take hits and Russell Wilson take big hits. and both of those guys missed less time to injury in this league than Big Cam, Luck, and Wentz. If you can take a hit, you can take hit. And Bryce like Wilson using his feet well to maneuver around

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Exactly glad we didn’t take some of these fans advice back in 2011 because we wouldn’t have taken Cam since we took Jimmy Clausen in rd 2 the year before.

He could also be QB3 or 4. That class is already getting hyped. And that class has toolsy guys as well with Maye, Ewers, and Caleb Williams. he could end up working his way to QB3 in this class on tools alone and with a good Proday/Combine, will go rd 1 this year.

He does deserves a shot and will get one. but there was a reason he fell to the 3rd rd in what was touted the weakest QB class in almost a decade. I think he’ll develop down the road into a good backup though.

Honestly if we went defense, I’d honestly go Carter.

Hooker will be 25 this January Joe Burrow won’t turn 26 until December Justin Herbert doesn’t turn 25 until next March

Wilson is struggling now for the first time in 10+ year. Wilson was only 5 pounds heavier coming out than Young currently. Wilson’s body has held up better than Cam, Luck, Wentz, etc who were 6’5 240+ pound guys. height got you scared? Stunning stat for you. Kyler Murray hasn’t been at the top of betted passes. In fact Hebert and Josh Allen were 1 and 2 last year in that category. Both are 6’5 or taller. The league has changed. This isn’t your big stiff hang in the pocket QB league anymore. heck Patrick Mahomes spends as much time of not more time out of the pocket. Same with Joe Burrow. Also watching Tape. When in the Pocket, Young’s vision is elite and knows where to step up in the pocket and in the lane to get clean passes off. This is something Bree’s was good at. funny while we are on Brees. That dude in college at Purdue wasn’t the quick trigger, he used his feet a lot and well.

Just noticed Hooker is older than Brian Burns and Tua will be 26 by the end of his rookie year. (Joe Burrow is 25 currently) and will be over 30 by the end of his rookie year.

Same HS class as guys like Tua, Tee Higgins, CJ Henderson, Tristan Wirfs, and Ceedee Lamb 7 months younger a than Sam Darnold and older than Brian Burns

Has Ohio State been any better? And have we been saying thing about Stroud and what program he is coming from?

I’m not giving out excuses. I simply am pointing out its not as talented. That’s not even just my opinion. That’s scouts opinion, that’s draft experts opinion. And again. Stats ranking is due to sacks given up etc. so all the NFL people are saying the talent isn’t there on that OL. And the OL stats are good. its 1 of 2 things. Either they are playing crap competition or the QB play is pretty good. And I’m sure you agree that they aren’t playing Crap competition in the SEC. So that only leaves 1 thing. if Ohio State had a OL where it was said to have the worst in years. And scouts and draft experts are saying there aren’t any high NFL caliber OL on the OL. Yet they still “rank high”. Is that not on Stroud for them ranking high and not giving up sacks?

2nd day is 2nd rd FWIW. And day 2 RTs are still considered top tier RTs. See Moton and the Bills LT. and just because it’s Bama doesn’t mean their worst is still elite. If that was the case you would still several of them drafted high. Which is no the case. The only reason they are rated as high as they are as noted above. Is Youngs legs and the way he can maneuver and avoid pressure while keeping his eyes downfield scanning and processing. That’s still a “Elite trait”. That’s how Russell Wilson has made it in this league. That’s how Bree’s made it in this league. Traits aren’t just 6’6 260 runs 4.5 and throws 90 yards. There’s mental traits as well. Additionally athletic ability isn’t just taking off and running like Lamar. It’s the the ability to maneuver and avoid presser behind the LOS like Rus. Young can still rip it too

Levis will be interesting. Will have to look at him totality. His full film, interviews, workouts, pro days. he has tools. And it’s a risk. Plenty of people have swung and missed on guys like him. Then again, if you hit. You hit big. (See Josh Allen). Allen really didn’t look good or put up stats at Wyoming but ooozed in traits

A lot of that ranking is due to Bryce using his feet and avoiding sacks. In fact talent wise. You don’t see any Bama OL being hyped up as pro prospects on this OL. In fact there said to be the worst OL they’ve had under Saban. Tennessee has Wright who is at-least a early rd 2 talent. If it’s were a guy like Mac Jones back there. They’d be near the bottom of the conference

Hooker’s top 2 weapons will go in the first 2 rounds. the Bryce’s top 3, none will be drafted in the 1st 4 rounds. Hooker plays in a 1 read, college spread offense where the HC schemes the WRs wide open. It’s actually very similar to Art Briles system at Baylor (Bryce Petty put up 32 TDs to 3 ints in the exact same offense) Bryce plays in a Pro system and goes through reads etc. hence why scouts have him at the top despite his size. It’s because his processing and how he reads the field. There’s a reason many say he is a Point Guard at QB. people get too wrapped up in Hooker because he is a local and putting up gawdy stats. Reminds me a lot of Jax fans when The Golden Calf of Bristol coming out.

@Verge would like to hear your thoughts on Stroud, Young, Levis, Hooker.

Matt Rhule would be calling them up offering our 1st rd pick.

If we trade Burns or DJ. I’ll lose even more faith in this team.

We Have to go QB rd 1 and we all know we will go that direction. but we really need to help the young guy. One thing that’s a QBs best friend is a Solid TE. We payed Ian Thomas, but that guy would be a TE 2 or 3 in any other roster. Washington is a Massive human being and a good athlete. He’s a Mauler as a blocker and a good enough receiver. Having him and Tremble in 2TE sets is a dream, almost like Baltimore.

could be for one of our guys?

You mean the OL everyone is saying is the worst in Saban’s history at Bama? Compared to Ohio State’s, where the Top LT being projected in this draft so happens to be from Ohio State.

The guy who has had a Major Major role in driving the Texans into the ground. Apparently some in the league think he ends up here after just being fired by the Texans

Stroud has had the number 10 and 11 overall pick the guy who set the RoseBowl record and a top 15 pick this year. and none of those are even the best WR, that’d be Marvin Harrison Jr which is looking to be a Megatron/Julio level prospect. Young has had 1 1st rd level WR and that was Williams who didn’t make it the whole season. Stroud took hits in the Michigan game, but no where near what Young went though Saturday