CPcavedweller

This is nice, but we need to lose man. We need that top pick in the draft, not 8.

If we can get up 14-0 on the Bucs, we could have conceivably played better against everyone else we've played. I know the Bucs are a little down at the moment but Brady is Brady. As for the Bucs, I figured Arians stepping down would be a bigger issue than people acknowledged. Bowles is who he was in New York.

Ruined the season.

So not going for it on your own 20? We aren't trying to win here dude. We need to lose. Tank, trade back three picks, get three or four first rounders, two years We will be in the Superb Owl. If there was a Josh Allen type, I'd say go for it. But I think Corral can be a franchise guy so I'm inclined to build out both lines.

Mike Evans has single handedly taken away three scoring opportunities.

Tepper is making a call to the locker room right now.

Steve Wilks may be worth keeping if we can get a QB and play makers on offense. My bet slip is looking BAD. fug.

Please no. Hooker is who he was at Virginia Tech, he's just with a generational offensive minded head coach in Josh Huepel. There is no QB in this draft worthy of the number 1 pick. Your options are to take BPA or trade down to get more 1st round picks. Levis and Hooker are 2nd round or later talents.

If Steve Wilks had a QB and a great offensive coordinator, the team he could build may be great. He may be a Sean McDermott type honestly. Would not be mad at him being retained. Defense is light-years ahead of where it was three weeks ago and the guys really seem to be playing hard now.

Vilma again? It's obvious he still dislikes the Panthers in everything he says.

What is there to be excited about in this game? Seriously. This is worse than 2010 where we at least had some optimism in a rebuild and some interesting, core players. Our core guys are now Brown, Chinn, ans Burns and even those guys may be traded while the game is going on. There is nothing exciting about this game or this season.

Maybe I'll go back and dig up the threads on Micah Parsons so we can see how wrong everyone was and who was wrong. I'd imagine many of you are in this thread saying the same thing about Anderson that you said about Parsons.

I don't want Hartman. I don't want Stroud. I don't want Levis. If I'm being honest I think we lucked out with Corral in the 3rd and the fact that he doesn't have to play behind this God forsaken offensive line. He can learn to be a pro in year 1. Corral has the chance to be really good if it clicks mentally for him. He's got all of the tools you want in a franchise QB, if we can get a coach to develop him. This is why I want to go defense at number one. If you have a shot at a Micah Parsons, you need to take it and pair it with Brian Burns. Build the defense from the inside out. Brown, Burns, Horn, Anderson, Luvu, Chinn. That's a great core of defensive players to take pressure off of the offense. My preference is that we roll with Corral. I don't see a single guy in the 2023 draft I'd rather develop over Corral. But the Panthers gonna Panther and spend yet another pick on a QB after we've spent what, six picks on QB's in the past three years? It's enough. If you have number one, you've got to go BPA and that's not any QB in this draft.

I'd rather have Hartman than CJ Stroud. Give me anyone other than Stroud. People want to talk about system QB's and then ignore the history of Ohio State QB's in the NFL.

Here is the question, did the Lions take Aiden Hutchinson or reach for Kenny Pickett? They took Hutchinson. Why. Because if you took Pickett or Willis you were reaching and over paying massively. That's what we are looking at for 2023. Any QB taken at number 1 you are massively over spending for. That's a position for a generational, sure fire talent. Anderson is that. Now you pair Burns with Anderson for three years, let Corral develop his mind to match his physical tools, and you may have a championship window if you play the markets right and draft well.

The team with better QB play? It's the scheme. Dillon Gabriel put up better numbers in the same offense as Hooker has. So should we take Dillon Gabriel? Seriously, that's not an indictment on Will Anderson. It's a schematic issue and the Alabama defense which will have several 1st round draft picks was beat. So using your logic, Tennessee beat Alabama by 3 points therefor we shouldn't draft any Alabama defender? Fine, I'll bite, we should draft Henry T'o'to (spelling) because he started at Tennessee. I'll bite further, let's draft Hendon Hooker to run the AIR RAID IN THE NFL! Seriously, people can't say Grayson McCall is a system QB and then in the same breath say that Hooker isn't. Furthermore they can't say Hooker is such a great QB because Will Anderson, the Heisman contending defensive player, is bad because of how the Tennessee game worked out. He was double teamed all night long and Tennessee was getting the ball out quick all night long. People here said Micah Parsons was lazy, took plays off, was too small, didn't have the motor, and would ultimately flame out in the NFL. Parsons and Anderson are essentially carbon copies of each other. Y'all were wrong about Parsons, you're wrong about Anderson. I'm not an Alabama fan, I'm an App State fan. If I was saying this due to Fandom I'd say we need to draft Nick Hampton in the 4th round (still may not be a bad idea), but I'm not.

In which case I'd also rather take Sam Hartman over Stroud and Levis.

And Sun Belt teams are beating SEC teams so what's your point? App beat Texas A&M, ODU beat Virginia Tech, South Alabama was a stupid coaching decision from beating UCLA, JMU will probably beat Louisville. Coastal will almost certainly beat UVA. Look, I'm not pretending the Sun Belt is the SEC. But the Sun Belt is the 6th highest rated conference right now and the Sun Belt East is almost even with the PAC 12 North (what was) and one of the ACC divisions. They aren't rhe SBC of old. Further, I'm not advocating taking him the 1st round. I'm saying you take the generational guy in Anderson (production, motor, skill) and you pass on an overpriced QB in Stroud, Levi's, et. al.

Derrick Thomas was 6'3 255 lbs. Will Anderson is 6'4 245 lbs. How is he small again?

He had more than 20 sacks and almost 40 TFL last year, right? Something insane like that? Y'all said the same poo about Micah Parsons as well.

Furthermore, if this was a triple option, wouldn't McCall have a few thousand more rushing Yards and few thousand less passing, and probably 50 less touchdown passes? Regardless of whether you take McCall, you still take Anderson over anyone else. You'll never get a shot at a guy like him except in the Top 5 and every 5 years. That's compared to Stroud or Levi's who would be 2nd round picks in a normal QB draft class. Those guys are nothing compared to what you should be able to nab at 1 for a QB.

He's 6'3 210 lbs. He's the same size as Zac Wilson. Could easily put on another 15 lbs but I doubt they've done that at Coastal because he hasn't needed it.

Have you watched Coastal? They run an RPO, sure. But he's also thrown 70 touchdowns to 6 interceptions in his career. He broke Tua's record for passer efficiency rating by 20 points when the record was only being broken incrementally. Throwing for 7,000 yards and 75 touchdowns in a little more than 2 seasons isn't "triple option".

Just Fields says hello with his Ohio State pedigree. You'd rather have that, or Dwayne Haskins, than Will Anderson? Anderson is the closest thing to Micah Parsons out there. You don't pass on that for Will fuging Levi's or CJ Stroud. Especially if we hold on to Burns.

You go with the Derrick Thomas aka DT reincarnate over any QB in this draft. If it was Amderson versus a Trevor Lawrence, you take Lawrence, but it's not. Roll with Corral, take Grayson McCall in the 2nd, keep a veteran clipboard holder and you're set at QB. If it's a rebuild you go with the generational player as a corner stone. Not a JAG like Stroud or Levis.