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He was a 1st round pick before 2022 happened. Not sure I understand why.

Well, you and I should be friends. Torrance, Kincaid, and Mims are a must now. Or just Kincaid and Mims.

Sort of like this better. 22. O'Cyrus Torrance - G Florida - Absolute road grader having watched him at Louisiana and then at Florida 58. Dalton Kincaid - TE Utah Could develop into one of the next great tight ends in the NFL 61. Zach Charbonnet - RB UCLA Day 1 starter 90. Hendon Hooker - QB Tennessee Taken in the 3rd round, he's given time to develop at minimal cost 93. Marvin Mimms - WR Oklahoma - Vertical field maker which, along with Kincaid, would open up a whole new world for the Panthers offense 132. Mekhi Gardner - CB LSU - Know the name, don't know much about him other than I think he was projected as 1 st round pick a couple of years ago. Not sure how he fell off a cliff but his former secondary coach left and that could have something to do with it. Huge value here. 134. Luke Schoonmaker - TE Michigan - When he's not out making schooners, he's dominating safeties. Two capable tight ends, along with Mimms, Moore, Marshall, and Charbonnet give this Panthers offense the potential to be one of the leagues best in two years time 147. Adetomiwa Adebawore - Edge Northwestern - Incredible drop for such a talented player. May be one of those late round guys you usually see other teams get and make you ask how they dropped so far 150. Jammie Robinson - S Florida State - Huge upside, very heady player who could call the defense with some seasoning 159. Nick Hampton - Edge App State - The doctor called and gave me a prescription for more pass rush. This guy is Brian Burns v 2.0 without 3 down potential. Amazing bend, 4.5 speed at 6'4 240 lbs. Watched him all his career at App State and many South Carolina fans may remember him as 31 who just wrecked the game, along with current Bengal's linebacker Akeem Davis-Gaither. Those guys shut it down at the end. Had a sack at Texas A&M and I believe 2.5 against UNC this year. Amazing value potential here.

Pick 9. Anthony Richardson - QB Florida Pick 39. Dalton Kincaid - TE Utah Pick 61. Marvin Mimms WR Oklahoma Pick 93. Zach Charbonnet RB UCLA Pick. 114. Tyrique Stevenson CB Miami Pick 132. Ventrell Miller LB Florida Pick 147. Nick Hampton LB/DE Pass rush specialist App State I didn't trade and went BPA early. Stroud was available at 9 but Richardson's upside is undeniable, especially if the Panthers end up with the Eagles QB Coach at OC. You can roll with a new 6'5 tight end who can block and catch, a speedy slot type receiver to attack and stretch the field vertically, Charbonnet who is a 3 down back with Pro Bowl potential in Year 1. Stevenson to shore up the secondary and potentially develop into a guy, Ventrell Miller to add a rookie to the LB room and hopefully develop. Nick Hampton as a pass rush specialist in a passing league late who may be able to develop into a 3 down roll with some experience and NFL weight training. Reminds me a lot of Brian Burns with his dip and speed. Played his best against P5 competition while at App. Great value pick at 149.

People compare Levis to Allen because they are white. Anthony Richardson is far closer to Josh Allen than anyone I've seen in quite a while.

I think he's more like Josh Allen. Seems to have the release and presence in the pocket to become a Josh Allen type which, in my opinion, is better than Cam Newton. If he's the choice, especially with Reich and a power run game, I won't be mad at it. Trade up into the first to take Jalyn Hyatt out of Tennessee to give you Moore, Hyatt, and Marshall, along with re-signing Foreman, and I'm good. I'd be good seeing Richardson start as a rookie if we have enough talent around him. I also trust we have a head coach who knows how to run Training Camp unlike Matt Rhule. The one thing I do not want is for the Panthers to trade our 1st this year and next year along with more 2nd or 3rd round picks to move up for Levis, Stroud, or Young.

I'd take Anthony Richardson. I don't care to trade away our future for any QB's available. If it was Trevor Lawrence or Joe Burrow...sure. but there is no guy like that here.

Tepper has an executive team made up mostly of women. I'm not saying this is an issue, but what are the odds that this team was made up of mostly women, and he was choosing the best candidate, in the NFL, for the job? He is focusing on diversity in his executive team but not in leadership of the group on the field which tells me that it's a facade. Now I'm all for hiring whomever, including Steve Wilks as HC, but you have to hire the best people you can find without attributing anything else to them but their abilities. Steve Wilks demonstrated his ability at a superior level to many other interim and full Head Coaches who are still under contract right now. Mike McDaniel, Josh McDaniels, Brandon Staley, Todd Bowles, etc. and deserved this job. I'm not sure what else the man has to do to get a fair shake at a Head Coaching position? Yet we went for Reich, which I get. You want an offensive minded coach. However for the executive team, I'd like to see who he has chosen and how he has chosen because those types of decisions have huge impacts downstream. Hiring under qualified people in leadership positions leads to functional issues similar to what we've seen thus far.

We don't need to trade draft picks for either. We have a former NFL QB as Head Coach now, a guy who is similar to Andy Reid in what he can when given the chance to develop someone with a skillset. Someone like Matt Corral, Sam Darnold, or Anthony Richardson. So I'll sell you both of these dudes for a penny if it means taking out a 2nd mortgage at today's ridiculous interest rates on the future to get them.

What did Josh Allen run at Wyoming? Patrick Mahomes ran the most basic offense you could possibly run in college and look at him. If you wanted a coach who could make a guy like Corral a super star, you got him. That said, I'm in favor of drafting Richardson. Dude is Josh Allen v 2.0.

Man, I wanted to see him in Vegas with McDaniels once more. Maybe knock the Chiefs down a peg for at least one season.

Not if the contract says you forego your right to that cash in the event you get another paying job in x amount of time.

Wilks lawsuit won't go anywhere if it's based on race, as much as I wanted him to be Head Coach. There is a plausible dichotomy between offense and defense and that's what Tepper wanted to make a decision on. Rhule on the other hand, I'm sure the Panthers have not paid him, being fully aware they may be sued. They likely interpret this cash as non-payable as Rhule got another job.

Do you want Mahomes who may be able to play 20 years or Jalen Hurts who may be able to play 8 or 9 at a high level? The running quarterback is great and all, but one pop to that shoulder and it's all over.

Irsay has hired Minority Candidates in the past so I doubt they would be able to prove he broke some sort of RHULE here. You like who you like and he likes Saturday.

You really think Vic Fangio was the difference for this team?

Joe Brady is available. Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to Brady without Rhule. I think Rhule was the root of all of the problems here considering how Wilks did with a very large interim staff and three different QB's.

Yeah, and they are going to request a first round pick. So not only do they get Bryce Young, they get a Top 10 pick, if we trade. Yet we get a QB and we need more than just a QB to compete. Then, if Fields doesn't figure his poo out, we are stuck with a running QB who can't read defenses and will be in the same boat two years from now. Draft Anthony Richardson, develop him into the next Josh Allen, keep your picks, and don't help a Divisional Opponent pile in draft picks to eventually surpass you because, not only do they have a QB, they have the other players that they need.

I'd rather take Anthony Richardson and not mortgage our future on an Ohio State QB. How many more draft picks do we have to give up? Richardson may take time to develop but his stats are nearly identical to Josh Allen's at Wyoming, he makes the same mind blowing throws, he has speed, size, etc. You could probably run a traditional offense with him as well as some of what the Ravens and Bills run. Give me Richardson over Stroud along with the rest of our draft picks.

Could've had him as an OC...not sure why we had to make him the Head Coach after what a GREAT JOB he did destroying a perfectly good Colts team with a potential Hall of Fame QB's, or two actually, in Rivers and Ryan. I won't be surprised if he is mildly successful here for one or two seasons but considering the drama of Indianapolis, a place set-up to win, I'm not holding my breath. Wilks deserved a real shot st the job with his guys and his system in place. Three of the four Championshio Game coaches are really transcendent or have transcendent QB's. We will have none of that and Anthony Richardson might take three years to get there, if he could at all. And Reich is good, by certainly not transcendent. Give me Siriani, give me Doug Pederson, don't care for a coach who failed with that roster in Indianapolis.

You're saying that because people saw Wilks go 6-6, we are happy with mediocrity? What we are saying is that WILKS went 6-6 with: 1. Three different QB's 2. Seven staff fired in season 3. As an interim QB 4. With PJ Walker playing at QB 5. Without your best secondary players 6. With a Rookie Left Tackle 7. While dealing away your diva 2nd team receiver who Rhule clung to for dear life That begs the question of WHAT COULD WILKS DO WITH A QB, HIS STAFF, and time to build out his roster? Furthermore, the brand of offense we ran wins games, hard. Look at the Bengal's, if they couldn't have run the ball in Buffalo that game is much, much closer. Look at Buffalo, they couldn't run the ball and they lost. Look at the 49er's, they run all over the place and win, Cowboys couldn't run. To win Championships, you have to be able to run to the ball. I know that's unattractive for people who'd rather be like the Bills during the regular season and just throw it all over the field then collapse in the post season because you can't run a traditional run game. Or maybe the Ravens? Hell, Philadelphia is who they are, why? They run the ball efficiently.

I'm sure that's how the situation would go. Why you're so adamant about fighting a 45 year old NFL quarterback with more money than god is beyond me. At some point, you want people to stop asking the same question.

Sexy day 3 may be Cam Peoples, out of App State, if he can stay healthy. 6'2 225 lbs and ran all over every P5 opponent that App played, including Texas A&M. Had 95 yards against Miami in 2021 when he went out midway through the 3rd quarter. Ran for over 100 against UNC. Big guy who literally runs through, over, and around people. If Achane is a Day 2 pick then I am a monkey's uncle.

He has AJ Brown and Devonta Smith, along with Miles Sanders and a good coaching staff. They also have one of the NFL's best defenses which gets them additional opportunities on offense. While Hurts is good, I don't think he's everything people make him out to be.

You get $70 million while mortgaging your future against Payton with the Saints as your bank. Surely Tepper isn't that stupid.