CPcavedweller

Here is the thing though, why is it better for Lamar to get what he's worth while other guys will have to take a pay cut or leave Baltimore entirely? That'd the zero-sum game here and why owners don't need to collude against guaranteed contracts. It's a zero-sum game for them. They are spending the money either way, it just comes down to how much of that pie he wants to take up. Also, when you are fully guaranteed, what incentive do you have to do everything that usually comes with a bonus? I know the idea of meritocracy is dead or dying with young people and they just want what they want, but it really shouldn't. Lamar's new contract is about his projection of output over the life of the contract, not something that happened 4 years ago. The past two years he has declined statistically and has been injured. So what does that say about the next four years of the life of a mobile QB? Jalen Hurts had an AC joint injury so if I'm the Eagles I'm also wary of a huge contract there. We saw what that can do with both Cam and Andrew Luck. Both were never the same after they suffered those injuries.

I have three kids. It doesn't make me a homebody to be at home at 9 AM, taking care of them. It's not like I can go to bars, take them golfing, or do whatever it is you think makes you less of a home body. Perhaps your wife takes a more active role with your kids that allows you to do those things? Maybe you don't have kids? Either way, you're making a lot of assumptions about me because I said that Pat McAfee makes College GameDay better; a show that's been on for 20 or 30 years now.

He should take a job cut... Maybe that's just me.. I love the potential of Tremble with Reich but don't really see where Ian Thomas is any better than a rookie we could draft late on Day 3.

I'd be fine with both Foreman and Williams. With the RB market, we should be able to afford both.

The most common criticisms by people seem to be the talent that Stroud played with. I'd agree if it looked like he danced around and just waited for guys to pop open but if you watch him, you see a lot of timing, 1-2-3 and the ball is out, and smart decisions, particularly when he was playing UGA. He also played 30 games in college which, as it turns out, matters when it comes to the NFL. Brock Purdy was a 4 year starter at Iowa State and it showed.

You know, as I sit here watching ESPN, with their NFLPA Representatives who happen to also be advising Lamar on what he needs to demand from the Ravens, say that owners are colluding, I wonder a few things. Is this not a "Zero-Sum Game" for owners? Everyone in the NFL is under the same Salary Cap. Not everyone spends every cent of their space but many owners spend most of it. This isn't baseball where Lamar is just demanding cash that has zero impact on the calculus of the rest of the roster (looking at you Yankees). He is literally demanding a higher guaranteed percentage of that pie that will hamper the ability of the owner and GM to build a team. So why would there be "collusion"? Owners don't want to open the box of guaranteed contracts for star players? Bottom of the roster guys don't have any leverage to demand this, only the NFLPA during the CBA negotiations has the ability to negotiate such a demand on behalf of all players. So this will only open the flood gates for star players, and most likely only quarterbacks unless you're talking about a guy like Micah Parsons or Myles Garret. With the understanding that only transendent talents could demand a fully guaranteed contract (absent some CBA change which would reduce the overall value of contracts paid out and would have to include some injury clause as an out I'd imagine) what "flood gates" are going to open? There isn't. It's a strawman argument by the NFLPA through media to make this seem like some watershed moment that it isn't. The facts are this: Lamar is a running QB whose statistical output has declined every year since he won an MVP He has missed as many playoff games as he has won with injury The shelf life of mobile QB's, as defined by Mike Vick and Cam Newton, is not very long. Going on their longevity, you could say that Lamar is likely on the back 9 of his ability to be prolific, whether it's defenses figuring out how to play him or injuries Signing Lamar to a fully guaranteed contract at the level of the Browns will harm any team that does so because he plays a style that leads to injuries (missed 5 and 6 games the past two seasons) and the contract amount itself would require a restructure each off-season to sign free agents resulting in a larger cap hit each subsequent year (Check the Browns and Deshaun's restructure this year) Teams may not feel that Lamar is good enough, and that the risk is too high of injury, that they can't build a roster like the Chiefs did with 9 rookies and still compete for a Superb Owl In short, it's a zero-sum game with the salary cap, Lamar isn't good enough to make-up the difference in lack of talent due to his cap hit, and he has declined the past two years while also ending up injured. There is no collusion because it's a no brainer that offering a fully guaranteed contract to a guy who can't get you to the Super Bowl because he's either injured or he can't make up the talent gap of other positions is not worth any amount of cash. My supposition is that he should've signed a contract two years ago. He's already lost millions in potential income in retirement by not taking his cash in 2021 because the value of the dollar has plummeted since his negotiations first began. While his money could've been growing at a rate greater than inflation in investments, he bet on future dollars which aren't guaranteed. Basic business principal is that a dollar today is worth more today than tomorrow. Zero-sum game for owners. Just hurts the club to try to take up more of the pie regardless of whether you're healthy or not.

Gardner Minshew is still available. If I'm the Jets, I'm on the phone yesterday with him. He's an upgrade over Wilson and Mike White.

I watch College Game Day. I have three kids. It's nice to wake up on a Saturday, turn the poo on, start cleaning and dealing with what they need. I don't sit down and watch the entirety of the show but I have it on and I've been watching since I was probably 11 or 12. So...LMAO all ya want.

If he's only guaranteed to play this year, I'd say no. I'd say no to Lamar demanding a contract like Deshaun Watson got because the Browns are now quite literally screwed year to year and will probably be paying Watson for 10 years instead of 5. Just no man. Just say no. Rodgers is an All-Time great but if he's not going to be Peyton Manning and stick around for three to four seasons, just say no.

McAfee is the best media personality to hit the scene in a long-long time. He's what you call a "market disruptor". It's why ESPN finally injected some life into College Game Day in the mornings.

Great, sign Theilen, draft Mims. Your starting pass catchers are Hayden Hurst, Terrace Marshall, Adam Theilen, and Denzel Mims. QB is Stroud. Running back is D'onta Foreman. I know I'd been saying we won't be competitive Year 1 of Reich, but with that offensive line-up with hopeful improvement of the offensive line, we could be very good without spending a whole lot.

Are people really complaining? We've needed a tight end as badly as we needed a LT after Gross retired. A player that demands safety and linebacker attention in the pass game immediately makes receivers jobs much, much easier. I'm sure DJ Moore is banging his head on the wall right now.

Great, now draft Will Mallory or Darnell Washington and you can trade Tremble or Thomas.

I watched Richardson's work out in the Combine. To me, I can't see Reich taking on a guy with so many issues with fundamentals. He is an elite athlete but things as basic as his footwork on an out in shorts and t-shirts are wrong, after having months to prepare for that exact drill. I think it's Stroud or Young. If it's Levis (please no) I think we will try to trade down to 3 or 4. Personally, I think they know they want someone, but obviously they aren't going to let it out. Most people think that the Texans want Young, so I'd imagine the Panthers will put out some crap that makes them seem interested in Young as well to see what the Texans may do to ensure they get their guy. Stroud seems like a Reich guy to me.

If this is what makes you sleep well, please trade places with me. I need that kind of stress free life.

Nah. Give me Stroud over Doug Flutie 2.0

How does Richardson hamper the offenses ability to be varied though? If he can run an offense from under center effectively, you'd limited the offense dramatically.

I do have visions of Anthony Richardson and D'Onta Foreman running an option from the 5 yard line. If we could somehow get DJ Chark and Darnell Washington (UGA), we'd have the best size for a spread power running game in the NFL. But I'd rather have Stroud. I also think you can take the Kansas State running back late on Day 3. Forgot his name. Keaton Mitchell out of ECU would also be a decent option. Both are Sproles like but quite a bit taller. Sort of remind me of Austin Ekeler.

Fine. Sign DJ Chark and D'onta Foreman, draft Denzel Mims and Will Mallory and I'm happier on offense. At that point you have three solid receivers, an offensive line that should improve, and a power back that will require linebacker support close to the line to bring down, and a good receiving tight end.

Obviously I'm against over paying. However there is production you get from a big back like Foreman that you can't quantify other than look at the numbers of the other RB's on the roster (I'd think). So if he can be had for a reasonable price, which he should because of the number of FA backs, bringing him back is a no brainer. He will be doubly important for an offense that will be young at QB and on the outside.

Yeah, as if we don't have other holes to fill. I'm keeping 39 and drafting Mims. Then I'm taking Will Mallory in the 5th. Jerrod Clark (ideal NT at 6'4 330 who originally went to college as a TE) or Nick Hampton (Elite Pass Rusher measurables) in the 4th. We want talent to develop on Rookie contracts. That's what enables you to go out and get those missing pieces to make a Super Bowl run. It's why the Chiefs were able to make a Super Bowl run despite Mahomes contract. They played 9 rookies in 2022-23. NINE. It's why they can get guys to support Mahomes and that offense. So keep the draft picks, trust your evaluations, and develop guys.

Well, the back-up QB, regardless of whom your HC is (because they are more like CEO's, not position coaches), is very important. It's important for on the field purposes during the game, it's important to help break down film outside of work hours. They also help snip film for film study. So no, it's not overblown. Not in the least. If we are rolling with Stroud and Corral, we are going to be missing a huge element of what makes that job what it is. It's why guys like Colin Kaeper-get punched in the face didn't get a shot at jobs, he didn't want to be the back-up. It's why Russell Wilson would retire. It's why guys like Case Keenum, Colt McCoy, Tyrod Taylor, Heinicke, and Bridgewater will have jobs until they don't want them anymore. They are an extension of the coaching staff to the starter. It is very important, especially for a rookie QB. It's even important for a guy like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady, even when Tom Brady had a former NFL QB as an OC. It's why we retained a guy like Derek Anderson for so long despite having a Shula as the OC and Cam being an MVP QB by that point. So don't undersell the value of this here just to pacify your feelings; or rather try to use irrational logic to suit your confirmation bias.

You can't teach 6'1 236 lbs. So if you want to compare Foreman, who has shown the past two seasons to be so, so undervalued, you'd be making a mistake. He may not be "elite" in the sense we usually think of, but he does have elite physical measurements and plays every bit of his size. He was a massive part of what made the Panthers even mildly successful under Wilks last season. Don't underestimate how his power impacted the rest of the offense. You saying he's like 30 others is like saying Derrick Henry is "JAG". Big backs just hit different.

You must be new here. There is no way to get JSN without trading Brian Burns or Jaycee Horn and he ain't worth that.

It's kind of too early to know isn't it? When your Head Coach gives you 10 snaps a practice then throws you put there with guys now working construction to block for you, what did everyone expect? I think if Corral had gone to the 49er's he would've been the ideal fit.