CPcavedweller

Johnny Manziel didn’t put in the work. I’d rather have Cam Ward or Sanders to Bryce but that would reset the development clock. I think Sanders could come in and be a Day 1 starter based on his experience and what I’ve seen. Ward could be good eventually but I’d like to see him make more throws on time from the pocket. As QB’s become more athletic, they won’t be required to hang out in the pocket and make quick reads on timing routes. That’s also why I sort of would like Nussmieir from LSU. He reads defenses pre and post snap, makes throws on time and with accuracy. I think he will be a Top 15 pick but in reality he should probably be Top 5. He’s going to be a good one.

I wonder if Dalton didn’t benefit from sitting last year and just watching film. Perhaps Bryce could benefit from sitting for a year or two before getting another shot, which honestly should have been the plan all along. 2.17 seconds is how long it typically takes Bryce just to get to the bottom of his drop. I watched a few games from Alabama and with the Panthers and he still does that slow walk back from the snap which takes a good 2-3 seconds sometimes.

Completely agree. The way the Panthers won is repeatable. It wasn’t some fluke where the defense scored a touchdown or two and then special teams blocked a punt and returned one for a touchdown. It was a thorough beat down within the regular framework that a game operates.

Takes a lot more than a corner for good pass defense. The best pass defense is the ability to rush the passer with four.

No team lucks into a 33-7 lead my dude. That doesn't happen in the NFL. Maybe a bad team will catch a decent team sleeping and get a lead, but it takes a LOT of things to go your way to get to 33-7. A lot. Like several things per drive. Several turnovers. Several missed turnovers. Several busted coverages. From what I could tell, the Panthers looked like the better team, straight up. Better coached, better QB, and likely what matters most, the better offensive line.

If we had beaten Tampa, if Ickey could have held up, we never would have been in a position to draft Bryce and would likely still have Darnold. Crazy.

Who cares if he's a dog? You either have the abilities or you don't.

The Bengal's have the worst pass defense in the NFL. They have the worst pass defense because they can't stop the run. If Canales is smart, he will run clock all game long. Be efficient with your drives on offense, force stops on defense, and minimize possessions. The only way the Bengals win is if you give them more possessions than you should. In this game, our offense is the best defense.

No idea. He was older when he came out because he spent five years in college. Lawrence spent three.

It's a thought experiment, and it's worth it. If you could trade Bryce for Lawrence, straight up, would you do it? The answer is unevuivocally yes. One is a lost cause who will never make it, the other is someone that actually led his team to a playoff win and very nearly beat the Chiefs the next week. So yes, give me Lawrence in your scenario.

He's hardly a "reclamation". He's what, 25? QB's play now until they are 40. He may as well be a rookie in all but cash. Now Deshaun Watson, that's a reclamation.

I am an App State homer, and I would like for us to draft Joey Aguilar in the 4th or 5th round next year. I don't care for Clemson, I don't watch Clemson, and yeah, I just don't care. Lawrence has the ability to be a Top 8 QB, if not better. The Jaguars suck. Their coaching staff and executive suites staff suck. The offensive line is horrendous and the receiver corp is iffy, at best. Their best offensive player outside of Lawrence is Etienne and, well, running backs don't very much matter do they?

I've watched them. Their offensive line is terrible. Their running backs, outside of Etienne, are terrible. Their number one receiver is Christian Kirk and their number two is Gabe Davis who was strictly a go ball guy in Buffalo, and Buffalo letting him walk should be all you need to know. He was under duress all night and when they came out in the 2nd half, he looked like a new player. That tells me a few things, not least of which is that their coaching staff sucks and that Pederson was fired from Philly so soon after winning a Super Bowl for a reason. I'd trade for Lawrence and his contract. Bryce isn't turning into a star and we ideally would play well enough to not be drafting first in 2025, otherwise Bryce would still be starting. Suffice it to say I watch a lot of football, from Division 2, FCS, FBS, CFL, XFL, NFL and even Premier League and La Liga; my life and entertainment are and have been from the age of about 7, sports. Believe me when I say that Trevor Lawrence is not the problem in Jacksonville. Give me Lawrence in this system with Dave Canales and at least three seasons, he will be great.

Give me Lawrence with Canales. Trade two seconds and Bryce to them. No players, no 1st round. Canales with Lawrence and a competent front office could have us set-up for a Division run in 2025.

The Bengals at 0-3 are worrisome. I'm in next game mode though. Forever a pessimist but eternally hopeful.Nihilistic might be the word. Anyway, the team has motivation this week to seek retribution for Andy. He built the foundations upon which the Bengals now rest their laurels and he receives next to zero respect for that. #DoItForAndy #AndysToy #Woody #Buzz #AndysBedRoom (I know those are all suspicious but it's 2024 man).

The Jaguars are a bad team. Lawrence is not the issue there and anyone with two eyes and a brain that consumes a lot of football can see that. He rarely has time to throw and when he does his receivers can't get off of coverage. He may have an overthrow or two but that's nothing that can't be corrected. Look at what Canales did with Geno Smith and Baker. If we had an opportunity to get Lawrence without giving up a ton, you would be dumb not to go get him. He's been stuck in the hell hole that is known as Jacksonville. He has won a playoff game in that place, after being down 27-0 no less. You don't do that if you aren't a fully capable player. Also, the Bills are just on another level right now.

Trevor Lawrence is light years ahead of Bryce. The Jaguars have invested nothing in the offensive line, they have no receivers, and they have a running back everyone loves that would be the 2nd or 3rd option on a lot of teams. Give them Bryce and next years 2nd rounder, I don't care.

If a Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels were available, they would have given up on him. And that’s the point, none of the QB options were worth drafting to them.

Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure I said I’d take Drake Maye and Jayden Daniels over Caleb Williams, both for the same reason that I wouldn’t have touched Bryce with a 10 foot pole.

I think Stroud looks fine. The whole team played like ass against Minnesota but his first two games were just what you’d expect from him.

It has been proven. I’m of the opinion that the owner, if he is not the GM, has no business attending Pro Days. You pay people tens of millions of dollars to know football, and you’re attending Pro Days to yuck it up with coaches and attend dinners? We can be fairly certain that Reich and McCown wanted Stroud. The videos following his Pro Day seemed to make that obvious. Then we saw the video of Young’s Pro Day and it was all Tepper. Tepper played fan boy and, honestly, I think the whole reason for the trade and why he pushed it so hard was to get Bryce. There was never an option for anyone but Bryce, otherwise the owner would not have effectively given the GM an ultimatum to make the trade happen. The fact the Bears were willing to trade back at all should have been a sign.

He has been our weak link. He is the single reason we drafted Bryce Young. Had we beaten Tampa in 2022, we never get the chance to make that mistake.

Stroud looks fine. They ran into the buzz saw that is the Minnesota Vikings but aside from that, they’ve been great. The context to add here is that Cincinnati has the worst pass defense in the NFL going back to last season.

I’m getting RG3 vibes. Obviously they aren’t running read option with him but he is very slim to be taking the hits he is going to take. Great player who can hopefully stay healthy. However, do you want to know what the indicator of success is? Look at Nix and look at Daniels. Both started at least 50 games in college. Football is second nature because of the experience that they have, and the systems they played in. Again, Bryce’s positive attributes weren’t what he did at Alabama. He didn’t play from the pocket, he didn’t make multiple reads from the pocket, and he certainly had few protection calls and audibles to call. He is trying to do at Carolina what he did at Alabama and that’s why things aren’t working. On the contrary, Daniels is doing exactly what he did at Arizona State and LSU in Washington. He is making plays from the pocket and also making plays outside when he needs to. He is a pocket passer with 4.4 speed. He is a better version of Lamar Jackson. Also, Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL. Put him with Andy Reid all of these years and I think you’d see similar results to what Mahomes has done there.

Sanders missed several blocks. It’s going to take time for him but I do think that was a great pick, nonetheless. Need to get him more involved in the receiving game.