CPcavedweller

Dude threw for almost 400 yards, and carried the offense on all of the second half touchdown drives. On the last one we only ran once in 13 plays and still scored. That is called "asserting your will". Typically it's in the run game, but we managed it passing. If Canales can somehow find a way to also run the ball, the Panthers probably win that game because the final drive wouldn't have been such a cluster fug.

The highs in this game, and Atlanta, certainly are Pro Bowl level.

Who is the real Bryce? 328 yards for 3 touchdowns leading three scoring drives with only 2 or 3 runs total that is basically carrying this team? Or the guy fumbling and throwing ridiculous interceptions? This Bryce looks like the franchise. The other Bryce looked like a 4th string QB playing in the 4th quarter of a preseason game with 5 minutes left. Without those two turnovers the Panthers are winning this game.

Coast. About 70 minutes South of Virginia Beach, 50 miles East of Roanoke Island.

A DIME PLAYER?!? My man, I live 40 minutes from the nearest Walmart and within spitting distance of three dollar stores, and there is one gas station within 15 miles of me. I’m also in North Carolina. What you are describing is peak bubble living man. Talking about $10,000 a weekend on a single bet as dime betting. Get out of the city man. Now if you want to really gamble, here is my pick of the game. Kyler Murray 2+ TD’s, Tet any time touchdown, Connor anytime touchdown. $20 to win $2,020. If you win, give me 10%. I feel great about it even though I understand the least likely portion of that is Murray to run two touchdowns in, I just have a feeling and my feelings are almost always wrong, but not this time.

Well write a book or something because throwing down $10,000 without a care in the world and remaining in the US is dumb. Could take one year of winnings and go live on a beach in Central America and never have to work again.

How much money do you have floating around to just put down $10,000 on the Panthers to lose and not care if it happens or not? can you put your money to better use and give me $1,000 to put floors in my house that I had to unexpectedly gut?

This is Canales second season. He has officially coached 1 season and 1 game. He made Bryce look decent for a bit. At some point, you have to cut bait with Bryce. I think Morgan has been digging his way out of a hole forced on him to trade up in 2023 to get Bryce. Tepper wanted his guy, GM and coach be damned. That's on Tepper, not Morgan. Trying to work around that isn't easy and we still deal with the repurcussions. I'd be fine keeping Canales if we do decide to move on from Bryce. I think he could be a great Head Coach, given a QB with the right measurables. Defensive development takes time and unfortunately we traded up to get Bryce when we had a roster unready for a rookie QB, and then we traded away assets that would have been used to build a core of talent.

Lawrence has the potential to be a Top 8 QB year in and year out though. He's got the arm, he's got the measurables, he's a leader, he's got the athleticism. He may not be Allen but he could pull off Herbert pretty well I think.

Bryce through up two hospital balls to Renfrow where he had to leave his feet with a defender on a LINE straight to his spine. But lets not blame Bryce for those drops.

I said this several times in the past month. He was so bad that suddenly playing like a Top 20 QB made him look like Mahomes.

Nothing wrong with being a Game Manager. But Game Manager's worth keeping don't lose 48-14 to a Division opponent toward the end of the season.

I think he’s a good receiver. He’s just not the guy we needed for the QB we have. Square peg meet round hole.

We should have drafted Warren or Golden because those are the type of guys Bryce throws to. But no, we got a guy who cannot get separation and every pass is going to be a contested play.

Didn’t say any of that. I was all in on Cam, hence my picture on here. If one of you could detail one facet of the game that Cam was better at than Josh Allen, I’m all ears. Just one. I’ll wait.

Dude I have a Cam jersey and was a massive Cam fan. I literally got in a fight at the Saints NFCS Championship game in 2013 because people behind me were yelling “Sir Cameron Newton: Leader of Men, Lover of Puppies...Esquire”. You cannot watch Josh Allen and tell me that Cam ever approached anything close to what you see from him on a consistent basis. Cam did it for one season and Allen has done it now for four. Cam was set in his ways. As much as I liked watching him, it was painfully obvious that he wasn’t improving and, if anything, continuously regressed following his peak in 2015. I can be a fan and also recognize a persons shortcomings. Cam was always at the top and didn’t have to put in the same amount of work as a lesser, physically talented person has to put it. He got comfortable and he fell. That mountain top is sharp and you either keep building or you teeter and fall. Sure, he was an alpha, but what did that lead to? One great year. Aside from that, he was average at best.

I don’t care if he wanted to leave. You sign a contract, you play, period. No one forced you to sign the contract. Hes going to get there and go for over 100 yards tonight, guaranteed, while Bryce looked lost yet again.

What do you mean? This makes zero sense. Would the Jets trade Garrett Wilson to see what they had in Fields? Would the Dolphins trade Waddle to see what they had in Tua? That is the most ridiculous take I’ve ever heard on this board. You don’t trade your best receiver to see what you have in a QB. You go find a younger version of that receiver and build your QB up.

Cam could have been there but his lack of desire to truly improve killed his shot. That comes from always being the biggest guy in the room. Allen had to come from JuCo, through Wyoming, and then to the NFL where he was terrible. He was forced to work. Another guy that has followed a similar path, that has a big arm and I’ve seen in person, is Joey Aguilar now at Tennessee. I wanted us to pick him up out of App as a late round pick but he got one more year of eligibility, and he’s taking advantage of it. He’s got potential to be an NFL QB and is used to the work required to constantly elevate.

Can we officially say that losing Thielen was impactful to this team? Every time he was out last year, we sucked. Then Coker goes down and we are left with a rookie, a first year guy, and Renfrow. Our tight end is stiff and unreliable in the passing game. We gave up the glue that pulled this offense together. I have zero faith in this program working. Bryce can ball, but he needs more receivers like Thielen and less like what the Buccaneers have, which is what it seems that Canales is pushing for.

Cam was a poor man’s Josh Allen, and it wasn’t particularly close between them. He was a guy with all of the talent in the world that didn’t want to put in the work or take his coaching which is why he never had sustained success.

Cam was notoriously set in his ways, too. I would be surprised if he put in 10% of the work to improve his mechanics and ownership of the game. Josh manages to get to the line with 20 seconds on the play clock. Josh knows how to set-up the defense. Josh can throw on a rope 65 yards downfield in year 8. There really is no comparison to be made between Cam and Josh anymore. It's sad to me but it's true. Josh is what Cam could have been had he put in the same amount of work, which I'm fairly confident he didn't.

I think Richardson could succeed but the Colts tried the Allen method without realizing that Richardson was even less advanced than Allen was coming out. They should have gone the Green Bay method. If they did, he may be ready to play by now. it all comes down to player development. I don’t know that he will ever truly develop but if he doesn’t, he would make a great tight end.

Anthony Richardson is the closest thing to Josh Allen as you could get, if he could get the right staff. He played 12 games in college, he should have sat for three years before ever starting in the NFL, period. I’d be fine trading for him if it was for a late round pick. Sign a bridge QB, let him stew, hiring some offensive people from the Bills who knows how Josh’s development took place. that said, Josh is one of one period. He’s a good human being, great teammate, great leader, intelligent, big, fast, physical, and he can throw a ball 65 yards on a rope. It really is crazy considering how he looked coming out of Wyoming. The crazy thing is that most every player you see in the NFL, the Panthers have had the ability to draft at one time or another. No one to blame for sucking other than Tepper, in my opinion. This has been the worst stretch in franchise history and it began with him.

He’s the best QB in the NFL right now. I’ve been saying that going back to the end of 2023. He has done more with less. Give him what the Ravens have and I think he’s got multiple Super Bowls at this point. I know Ravens fans and other people thought Lamar deserved the MVP last year but Allen, and really their last two match-ups, showed why Allen won it. I don’t know if the Bills have the team to win a Super Bowl but they are good, and that’s because of Allen. Watching them makes me realize the Panthers will never compete so long as Young is the starter. He just doesn’t have “it”. Maybe it’s a bit unrealistic to compare but Allen’s arm strength is pretty demoralizing. He threw for 251 yards, in the 4th quarter. Bryce has thrown for 251 yards once or twice?