CPcavedweller

It's not that difficult if you have access to the internet and don't have any metabolic disease brought on by chronic eating of poison (i.e. hypothyroidism, PCOS, diabetes).

We don't know poo about Baker or Sam with a west coast offense. I'm hoping Baker shows out and we can get some Sean Payton plays built in.

Why wouldn't Baker play? No need to get the starter hurt?

Literally no one holds out anymore because it's pointless.

Literally no one holds out anymore because it's pointless.

"Is anyone NOT going to mention Murray?" We were all doing fantastic, not mentiong him, until you said something.

Coaches shouldn't organize these, players should. The point was that this isn't a player led team team because it's bereft of any real leadership. Baker shows up and BAM, everyone of the quarterbacks are working out together, got CMC out there, etc. Told yall, Baker is the leader the Panthers have been missing since Cam, Olsen, Kuechly, and Davis left.

Well, they are on a team so I'd hope they would. The obvious lack of leadership since Rhule took over this team is kind boggling. Under Rivera you had very clear cut alphas to rule the roost. Under Rhule, you've got a lot of beta cucks just following no one blindly.

He's got a Top 1% brain though.

I'm from NC. Don't have a radio voice but I almost certainly can talk about matters related to NC sports with some contextual experience. The Walmart Tar Hole fans wouldn't like me very much though.

Then that's a problem of the team, not Baker. If they can't handle some constructive criticism from the guy watching everything unfold, that's on them. Joe Thomas (ultimate football name for the position and team) retiring was the end of cohesion there.

The Rams disagree with your assessment.

Last point to counter, Baker has won everywhere he's gone. "How will he handle losing"? Well he lost his first two years and then the Browns won a playoff game and lost by six points to the Chiefs. That answers that question.

I'm fine with giving Rhule 5 or 6 of his seven years. There is no guarantee that we have a bad record this year either. Why did the Panthers go so hard after Baker? Teams don't go hard after QB's if they feel like a losing season is coming; they roll with who they have (e.g. Atlanta, Seattle). The Panthers feel like they are one player away and that's QB. Baker has won everywhere he's gone.

Baker handled losing fine. What was 2018 and 2019? Two head coaches, dysfunction, front office changes, etc. The Browns just Browned, all over the place. Anyone bringing in Watson was going to have an issue and I feel as if the Browns have cursed themselves.

1. Whats very telling to me here is when Lincoln Riley says that Baker can do more than most other QB's and it allowed him to make weekly adjustments. Look at how Oklahoma performed with Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler, both more ideal in terms of physical traits. They have the talent around them, yet they still struggle. Then you get OU with Baker who is a late score away from the National Championship and they almost hang 50 on Kirby Smart in a playoff game. That's a big deal. I will reiterate this, the more I read and watch, the more I feel like the Browns just Browned. Bad organizations will do what bad organizations do and the Browns are a bad organization. They let OBJ divide the locker room, then Stefanski misses a meeting and rides Baker hard for pointing it out. The coaching staff put the onus of leadership on other positions then sent a QB out there with a torn labrum and then crucified him in the media. It's the Browns, y'all. 2. “He came in believing he was the guy,” says linebacker Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, who was a Sooners sophomore when Mayfield arrived in 2015. “At first people were like, Huh? But he earned the respect so fast. . . . On the first day, it looked like he’d played with those receivers for 10 years. When we got back in the locker room, all the receivers were like, That’s the guy I want.” All I know is Darnold better watch out because you know Baker is working day in and day out leading up to camp. Don't be surprised if camp reports say something like "it looks like Baker has been in this offense all off-season". I believe this type of commitment is why the Panthers weren't in a rush to get him before OTA's. An angry Baker is good Baker. 3. The Browns went 0-16 in 2017. In 2018 Baker had Hue and broke the rookie record for TD passes and won 7 games. In 2019 he had Freddie Kitchens who was promptly fired after the whole team regressed somehow. In 2020 the Browns go to the playoffs and are a poor Baker decision from continuing a drive for a potential ticket to the AFC Championship game, that after besting Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh. The Browns, beating Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh? Ever? Yes, Baker led that. Then in 2021 the whole team regressed yet again as leadership cracks develop because some players misguided loyalty to a guy like OBJ who believes he IS the team. He destroyed the Giants and left the Browns in ashes as well. I've hyped myself up sufficiently now.

Whats very telling to me here is when Lincoln Riley says that Baker can do more than most other QB's and it allowed him to make weekly adjustments. Look at how Oklahoma performed with Caleb Williams and Spencer Rattler, both more ideal in terms of physical traits. They have the talent around them, yet they still struggle. Then you get OU with Baker who is a late score away from the National Championship and they almost hang 50 on Kirby Smart in a playoff game. That's a big deal. I will reiterate this, the more I read and watch, the more I feel like the Browns just Browned. Bad organizations will do what bad organizations do and the Browns are a bad organization. They let OBJ divide the locker room, then Stefanski misses a meeting and rides Baker hard for pointing it out. The coaching staff put the onus of leadership on other positions then sent a QB out there with a torn labrum and then crucified him in the media. It's the Browns, y'all. “He came in believing he was the guy,” says linebacker Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, who was a Sooners sophomore when Mayfield arrived in 2015. “At first people were like, Huh? But he earned the respect so fast. . . . On the first day, it looked like he’d played with those receivers for 10 years. When we got back in the locker room, all the receivers were like, That’s the guy I want.” All I know is Darnold better watch out because you know Baker is working day in and day out leading up to camp. Don't be surprised if camp reports say something like "it looks like Baker has been in this offense all off-season". I believe this type of commitment is why the Panthers weren't in a rush to get him before OTA's. An angry Baker is good Baker.

No, that's not how these things work. The accusation is bad regardless of guilt so then the Texans have to go and try the cases in public, in front of the NFL, and in court. They couldn't just say "fug off" and it be free. Litigation isn't cheap, the PR hit isn't cheap, and the NFL could and very well may conduct their own investigation and fine McNair directly. So there is nothing cheap about the accusation whether it has merrit or not.

This is what I've said. The Browns issues that lead to Baker's departure were Browns issues. Only the Browns could bring in someone who may get a full year suspension, leaving them two years out of football, and give them the biggest guaranteed contract ever. Then they blame Baker for OBJ leaving? Everywhere OBJ has gone has turned into a an eventual shitshow.

Better than the Solar Panels or Windmills.

Are you a lawyer? The sooner they settle, the sooner it blows over for them. It's not like they are hurting for the type of cash they had to pay out.

What dysfunction? He took the Browns to the AFC Divisional Round. The fugging Browns. Set the NFL Rookie Record for touchdown passes in 12 starts. What happened in Cleveland was a Cleveland problem, not Baker. They will be, forever and always, the epitome of dysfunction in the league.

Bu..bu...but Baker is too arrogant for his own good. The media portrayal of this dude is as bad as it was with Cam. Couldn't be more wrong.

It won't matter who the QB is if we are running with Chubba and whomever our 3rd running back is at this point. CMC is the X-Factor for wins here. Baker and CMC in this west coast offense has me excited though. Ironically I think Baker is much better suited to this offense while Darnold is probably better suited to the Stefanski/Shanahan tree. Baker is a winner, has a photographic memory, and absent the power struggle in Cleveland, should come in and be a good leader for a Panthers team that has been lacking true player leadership since Cam, Luke, and Thomas Davis left.

Who was CTE related? Demarious (sp?) Thomas had seizures that may or may not have been related but that's the only one. Out of thousands of former players and hundreds of thousands of former football players, the amount is less than statistically significant to make the claim. Sorry if that sounds insensitive but I'm a logical person who stays grounded despite media coverage through understanding statistics. If it happens once, and a few other guys are questionable, within a few years it seems like a lot. But in reality you have hundreds if not thousands of guys who leave the NFL and college football each year. So the reality isn't aligning with media coverage, as is the usual now. Yellow journalism has returned. If you don't know the term, Google it.