CPcavedweller

People aren't numbers bro. The binary thing is for those blue pills who think we live in The Matrix.

Steve Wilks has taken the same roster as Rhule to two should be wins with a USFL quarterback. Give me Wilks with his own staff and Matt Corral/another QB in the draft, preferably Grayson McCall. I think a lot of people are sleeping on what a real NFL off-season without a sham QB competition would do for a guy with the physical traits of Matt Corral. He likely has the quickest release in the league already, he just needs the mental work which can only come from doing which Rhule didn't allow him to do. Believe it or not, defense still wins championships. Think 13-3, 28-3, 33-9, etc. Defense won those games. Give me Wilks all day.

No, Will Levis is the 2nd coming of Josh Allen, haven't you heard? Speaking of which I find it odd that people hate on Grayson McCall going to Coastal when the two best QB's in the league went to Texas Tech and Wyoming.

Who wants to see what he can do with the offensive line and run game now actually looking like an NFL group? Without Rhule and Brady, I'd be inclined to give Darnold a shot to prove himself again. If we aren't going for the playoffs this year, generate trade bait or see what you have heading into 2023.

Where have you been? The huddle wanted him cut or traded halfway into his rookiebyear. A few of us said "wait until year 3". Now the huddle loves him of course. I sort of want Darnold back to see how he could do without Rhule and Joe Brady.

Grayson McCall is out here dropping dimes. Receivers dropped two perfectly placed 40+ yard balls. He's going to come out as the most precise thrower in the 2023 draft. May be overlooked because he's at Coastal but make no mistake, he's the real deal. But yall will mistake, just like you did with Parsons. Yall are going to overestimate guys like Hooker and Levis while ignoring this dude. Yet many of you all wanted Malik Willis despite him going to Liberty. Make fun of me for this while you can. It won't last long.

It's not just because he's outside the pocket. Offensive line technique can get defenders arms down and they weren't adjusting early on with Rhule here. I think the tandem of mcadoo and Wilks is 25 times what McAdoo and Rhule was. I'd like to see Baker get another shot with Wilks as the head coach.

1. Corral 2. Grayson McCall 3. Anthony Richardson (big developmental project) The others most people are listing will be top of the 1st round picks and I'd rather use that on a killer receiver or pass rusher. McCall is going to surprise a lot of Huddlers when draft evaluation time gets here. Dude has thrown I think 5 or 6 interceptions in two years. If you all want to say he's a system QB, fine. Hendon Hooker is the epitome of a system QB. Stroud is an Ohio State QB which makes me wary. It's hard to evaluate him because of the surrounding talent. I'd take Young but I don't think he's going to be there for us.

Not with PJ Walker at QB they aren't. As good as he was on Sunday, lest we forget the week before? If Sam comes back, they still aren't. I think Baker and Sam would both benefit greatly from the exclusion of Rhule from the offensive game plan, so hopefully we get the chance for them to put something on film for some trade bait.

You wonder if Tepper isn't going to go the Mike Tomlin route. Wilks provides that.

Tepper is going to want a guy like Mike Tomlin and Wilks seems to be very similar in terms of his demeanor and how he would build a team. He also comes from the McDermott school who obviously has ties to this organization so give me Wilks, or give me death. He's a respected coach who will be able to recruit whatever coaching talent that there is in the league. Players want to play for him. He's local. Just give him a shot. This organization needs internal repairs after the damage Rhule has done and you do that with a guy like Wilks. Absent some coach like Lefleur or McVay, Wilks is good. Dude coached a game against one of the most explosive offenses in the league and held them to 24 points on a day where we barely had 150 total yards on offense.

Yeah, there is already a thread on this bro.

When used correctly, CMC was more than a running back. He was also our best wide receiver.

This is the NFL. Talent wins. If you want to keep fighting for .500, you try for a playoff push.

Correct. Not here to talk about making the playoffs, or whether we should even try. I think, based on the state of our roster, that we should....tank. I don't really care about any of the QB's in the top of the draft but there are some potential defensive guys who can be cornerstones, and we already have a guy with all the physical tools you want in Corral. It would suck to end up at 7-10 or 8-9 and still make the playoffs.

I didn't say I fuging WANTED HARTMAN. I said if I had to choose between taking Stroud first or Hartman later, give me Hartman later. McCall isn't a system QB. Yall say he's a triple option QB but he threw for 400 yards and 3 or 4 touchdowns a week ago. He broke Tua's passer efficiency record. McCall is Coastal's offense whereas Hooker and Stroud are a product of theirs. You put McCall in an Ohio State uniform and it would be about the same as Stroud. The point is that much like the 2022 draft, there are no QB's worthy of a Top 5, or even 10 pick. You don't reach for a QB at one. There is no Trevor Lawrence, Cam Newton, Mahomes, etc. type of guys. Maybe you take Bo Nix on Day 3? But you don't take Stroud at one, sorry. That's a reach. You go Best Player Available all draft.

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Looks like you're the only person who got the point of this thread. I wasn't saying we are a playoff team. What I said was that we are one game back in a hapless division. As you said, we will probably be in first place after next week. People want to come in here and suggest I'm saying we are a legitimate playoff team, I'm not. What I'm saying is that at the mid point, we may actually end up being in 1st place. It's absurd.

I didn't say we would make the playoffs. What I said was we are ONE GAME OUT. That's a fact. You're adding commentary to the basic fact I provided.

Did he?

If we win here, we are 1 game back in the playoff race in the NFCS. It's 2014 all over again.

Didn't we all know this already? Everyone here wondered why CMC wasn't getting enough touches and then why we were trying to force him the ball. Just run the offense. Holy poo... App State is in the house with Wilks and Tae Hayes now.

Is it though? Worked for the 49er's and several other franchises including the Jaguars who now have an elite core of talent.

Are you really comparing Stroud to Herbert? The problem with Stroud is he is actually less gifted than Justin Fields and he's throwing to more 1st round wide receivers than we have here behind an offensive line that, within the context of the Game, is better than what we have. Stroud, like Hooker, plays within a system that excentuates what they do well which does not translate well to the pro game as we saw with Haskins and now Fields. You have to look at what the guys do well. I'd rather have Bryce Young at number 1 if that was an option. Stroud and Levis look like Day 2 picks to me. So if I have to take a QB on Day 2 or Day 3, I want McCall because he will probably be there. I don't want us to reach for a Stroud or Levis and set out team back even more. 2023 needs to be the ultimate BPA draft.

McCaffrey was a handicap for every offensive play caller we've had. For some reason they felt they needed to force feed him rather than just run the offense. This is on the play callers, not McCaffrey.