CPcavedweller

Jalyn Hyatt of Tennessee or an elite tight end. We need to get a true third receiver who can break the top off of a defense and/or a tight end who can command attention of safeties.

Is this satire? She didn't complete the CRT course?

Umm...his year here as DC saw us as a top defense in the league, no? Top 5? The only eeason we were decent past 2015 was because of our defense. The offense absolutely fell apart when Cams Shoulder went missing.

So I suppose it's a coincidence that two guys with the exact same skill set end up as MVP candidates with Dorsey as their QB coach. Anyone ever think that Cam had just hit his ceiling in 2015, then was hurt in 2016 and never recovered? That isn't Dorsey's fault. I'd also be willing to be proved wrong by trying to give him a shot with Richardson. That or Kellen Moore with Richardson.

I've seen a lot of bad ideas so I thought I'd throw mine out there. If the coach isn't to be Steve Wilks, we should take Ken Dorsey should he want the job. Dorsey would also likely keep Wilks on as DC which would be an instant upgrade over the Rhule staff. Dorsey has now coached two guys like Anthony Richardson in Cam Newton and Josh Allen. Josh Allen's college stats are eerily similar to Anthony Richardson and both have the same athletic profile along with some similar intangibles. If you believe Gator fans and other's who follow Florida football, Richardson is humble, hungry, coachable, and very willing to learn. Dorsey led Cam Newton to an MVP season with an unorthodox skillset and has now led Allen to what will undoubtedly be an MVP Finalist type year for multiple years running. The ability to develop two unicorn type QB's, while one is available in this draft, cannot be ignored. He's also been apart of two programs that have ties to the Panthers and have resulted in the ability to, or reaching, the Super Bowl. Lastly, we would be able to trade down and still nab Richardson. We should be able to trade down and get another 1st and 2nd round pick, or a 1st and a late 1st, while still getting the QB we want. The benefit of this cannot be overstated as we already have two second round picks. We would be able to nab Richardson, nab a 3rd receiver, and a quality tight end while gaining a coach who have proven he can develop raw, hyper athletic QB's. There is no other coach available with the resume of Dorsey when it comes to quarterback development with guys with the skillset of Richardson, Allen, and Newton. Now flame away.

Maybe Tepper should keep his ass away from hiring until the paperwork needs to be signed. He's not a football player, college football player, nor coach. He's as qualified as I am if not less considering the amount of time I sit around watching, talking and otherwise consuming football information. Give the job to Fitterer, you advise and consent and stay the fug away. You were "enamored" by Rhule as well and look where that got us. You've been so in love with the idea of getting an elite QB you've sacrificed 9 or 10 picks to try on guys who were known commodities. Build the core of your team. There is no Justin Herbert, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, etc. in this draft worthy of trading even more picks away to get. BUT...there may be a Brock Purdy. An experienced rookie with 3 to 4, or even 5 years, of playing time in college with the moxie, poise, and physical ability to take a strong core to the CHIP. Look at Brady. He started his career much like Purdy is looking now. Great core, average QB athletically and someone no one knew. If you can't get an elite QB, history shows that you should get a good QB to go along with a great core. Don't sacrifice a great core for an average qb or you'll stay below average until you hit on a QB, at which point you can't build a core.

Before yall say "that's why quarterbacks matter". The Chargers have Justin Herbert...and still lost. The refs were the worst I've seen in a long time this weekend as well.

Is it? Why is it the right approach? What offensive minded head coach that didn't allocate more resources to defense has won championships lately? Bill Bellichek won SEVEN as a former DC. McDermott has the Bills on the cusp with mostly former Panthers guys and a Panthers Front Office guy. Andy Reid is the regular season king who falters every post-season. McDaniel in Miami fell apart. Josh McDaniel couldn't win with DeVante Adams and Derek Carr (who played really well for Gruden). Hackett couldn't hack it with a future Hall of Famer at QB and quite the cast at receiver and running back. The only way I'd want someone over Wilks is if it's Jim Harbaugh. Give me Jim and I'll be happy. All he has done in coaching is win. He won with Colin Kaepernick for crying out loud. He won at Stanford. He gave Michigan two undefeated regular seasons in a row. Back up the Brinks truck for Harbaugh. Whatever he wants, give it to him.

"Pray the defense holds up"? If you go for an offensive guy, it's more along the lines of "pray that the offense doesn't go up against an elite defense". How many Super Bowls has Andy Reid won? How many times has he had a Top 5 offense? How many times has the team with the better defense lost the Super Bowl? Remember 2021? Kansas City comes in flying high and were completely grounded by the team with the better defense? 2019? Rams come in and score THREE points because they went up against a better defense. How about the Dolphins collapse this year? EPIC. Now how about the 49er's? Offensive minded head coach who goes with a ground and pound style game plan and allocates resources to defense. They are the best team in football right now with a 7th round pick at QB. You can get an offensive minded coach with an INNOVATIVE RUN GAME that is very much smash mouth and finesse, yet allocate resources to defense, and still win championships. You don't have to get NERD MCDANIEL. You don't have to get Nathaniel Hackett (that went well). The best teams in the NFL right now, aside from the Chiefs, are teams that allocated far more resources to defense. Look at the Eagles (smashmouth, finesse offense), 49er's (smash mouth, finesse), Bills (smash mouth, run and gun), Bengals (smash mouth, run and gun type offense). To be elite, you have to be elite running the ball. To be elite throwing the ball, you need an offensive line that can protect. Ours was 21st in the league in pass block win rate and I saw Ickey get beat what seemed like every other pass pro. The point is, Tepper wants to change identity to sell tickets, not to win Championships. If you want to win Championships, you play defense and have an offense predicated on running the ball, whether it's in space or hard nosed. If you can't run the ball, when you face an elite defense you're going to be screwed. So I'm sure the fans will get what they want. Wilks deserves the job. Going 6-6 after firing 7 coaches and rotating three QB's including a guy who should be in the USFL? Furthermore, the Panthers copy cat in Buffalo has shown what a defensive minded head coach can do. Oddly enough, Wilks worked with McDermott for quite a while. I'd say he's more like McDermott and I'd like to see what he and Fitterer could do.

The Broncos may be willing to offload Wilson for that. Wilson THRIVES in the scheme we were running this year. Play action pass with some improvisation and receivers who will operate the scramble drill. He's also a leader, as cringy as it can be. If we could get Wilson, even with his contract, for a 2nd I think you take it. Get Wilson, re-sign Foreman, draft a TE and third receiver, re-sign Bozeman... Could easily be the favorites of the South for the next three years. However I'm not giving up draft picks to take Stroud or Young. I'm also not drafting Richardson. His comp would be Josh Allen but Richardson doesn't have a ton of playing time and being a high pick will force him to play sooner rather than later. It's going to be a poo show, wherever he ends up.

Them knowing what we want, it will probably be three firsts, two seconds, and a 5th. We may as well ask for Justin Fields and let them take Stroud.

Have you done anything other than look at his stat lines? He can run, that's about it. Slow to read defenses, has to see a guy open. The best thing the Panthers could do is build a core of talent and develop Corral behind Darnold for another year or two. Want to know why Purdy is doing well? He was a four year starter in college, played in a pro style offense, and the 49er's core of talent is quite possibly the highest in the NFL. We will send another 8 picks away looking for a savior QB before we do the sensible thing and build an offensive scheme with a core of elite talent around a guy who can LEAD an offense. If Corral were with the 49er's I feel like he would be playing similar to how Purdy is as well but Purdy is already reading defenses better than Justin Fields and he was a 7th round pick. Save the picks, take BPA/offensive talent at WR and TE in the first two picks. If there is a QB with a lot of college experience who may be middle of the road in terms of tangible traits, take him in the 4th or later and see what you got. There is something to be said for playing time in college and how it translates to the NFL.

It's crazy to think that the Atlanta game came back to kill us here. Obviously some mistakes in this game late with Ickey wiffing on a pass block, Henderson just completely forgetting how to football, and a questionable holding call on special teams, but it was the Atlanta game. It was always going to be because of how dramatic a finish it was. If we didn't have Rhule in New York and against Cleveland we may have won those games as well. I think Darnold can be re-signed and I think we can develop the core of this team now though. To have a game come down to this against playoff form Tom Brady with Darnold throwing for 300+ and 3 touchdowns with little to no running game, secures my belief that we can be a playoff team with Darnold so long as we get some help in weaponry. You throw a rookie like Levis or Richardson on this team and we are back to winning 4 games while giving up an opportunity for guys like Mayer and Hyatt who have a chance to be real stars in the NFL.

You think Wilks, one of the best defensive play callers in the NFL, doesn't know this? It's the safeties job to make the right read and instead of taking Evans he took the underneath route.

J No is number 6...that was Henderson, twice.

It's just Henderson...everyone else is fine. At this point put in Norman. Can't be any worse.

CJ Henderson needs to be gone.

Tampa is playing single high safety with every other player within 8 yards of the LOS. It really is a testament to Darnold and the offensive line to get the protections right and deliver an accurate ball with the pocket really collapsing around you each snap. Darnold living up to that 3rd overall pick. I think he's now at 8 or 9 touchdowns to 1 interception and probably a 124 passer rating this year. Amazing what not having a crutch like CMC can do to a team like this. Run and gun baby.

Darnolddddd...LFG boys and girls.

And waste yet another pick. We already have Corral with a 3rd and 4th round pick. Those would be wasted as would the picks we gave up for Darnold. The picks for Teddy and Baker are already a loss. Then you draft yet another guy? To presumably replace a guy playing like a Top 3 pick in his 5th year? 5 years in NFL life used to be nothing for a QB. Darnold played for ADAM GASE and MATT RHULE, two of the four worst coaches of the past 10 years in the NFL. You draft Mayer and Hyatt to give you a true superstar tight end and 3rd receiver who can get DJ Moore one on one coverages and go with Darnold and Corral.

I'm telling y'all, we don't need to take a QB in the first 4 rounds. Darnold finally got to sit, now has a competent staff, and he is cooking.

Darnold playing like a number three overall pick in his 5th year now. That was a masterclass from the OC to the OL, to the QB. Best Panthers drive I've seen in a long time.

This is probably the most excited I've been for a Panthers game since...2018? 2019? Didn't care for Rhule, the team didn't seem to care either. The energy is back. Greg Olsen not being able to hide his Panthers Fandom in the opening discussions with a smile when the Panthers and Wilkes possibly making the playoffs was talked about. Win or lose, I think we should all take a moment to appreciate the fact that Wilkes has given us, and the staff and yes...Sam Darnold...meaningful January football.

Have you watched him? He's garbage. There were signs with Josh Allen including his ability to actually hit those deep shots, off platform dart throws to a point, etc. I've seen absolutely none of that from Richardson. It's akin to taking Zach Wilson for me. You see his potential and ignore the bad things. Yall wanna waste a first round pick on a project when we already have one in Corral, go ahead. I guess I'll ride but I'm going to bitch the whole way so you better turn the radio up.

Because we ran...for 320 yards...and have the 4th best rushing offense in the league since Christian left... We aren't limiting his use. We are maximizing our running game and offensive line and there are a fixed number of snaps per game. You're reading the situation wrong, as is typical here.