CPcavedweller

Do you sit around on Twitter all day, every day? I want a return to the old logo, personally.

Look dude-o, I can already throw a ball 60 yards at 5'9 165. It isn't out of the question to assume that at 6'3, with longer arms, I could launch it 75 or 80. Suck it.

You don't gamble with the number one pick. Taking Young is a gamble, simple and plain. He and Richardson are both huge question marks at this level and if the Panthers are like the Dolphins with Tua in four years, we will all be suggesting everyone be fired and Tepper to sell.

Better not be.

If I was 6'3 and 220, I could probably play in the NFL but no, I'm 5"9 165. So, what's their point? Size matters, to your wife and in the NFL. Don't let them lie to you.

....I'd trade Stroud and 3 firsts plus my 3rd born for Trevor Lawrence, with Dave Caldwell, Reich, and Josh McCown on staff. How can anyone say this? That they "weren't high on Lawrence"? He's quite literally a generational talent and took out the new golden boy Phillip Rivers replacement after coming back from 27-0, in the playoffs. Jesus Henry Christ.

You also have to think that in the NFL, probably half of the DE's and all linebackers will be just as fast as he is. So his mobility isn't going to be nearly as much of an advantage at this level. Add in the fact that he's got Jimmy Clausen Arm strength and I'd be worried. You also saw the drop off between last year and this year after he lost two first round receivers, even with a Kamara clan in Gibbs and the still, Uber talented receivers Bama has. Maybe the experts have it right but man, trading all of what we did to move up and rolling the dice on Young breaking the mold? We rolled the dice on Cam because he, at the time, was a unicorn, much like Richardson but with much better mechanics. You're on the opposite end of the spectrum with Bryce where he has to do everything in spite of his size and lack of elite traits. I'm just not buying that Levis, Richardson, and Stroud wouldn't have done just as well if not better than Young if they were at Bama. Thats the thing. If you substitute any one of these QB's for each other, what would it look like? Levis has the arm and some of his throws are very NFL-esque where he is holding safeties with his eyes then making the throw 0.5 seconds later to a tiny opening. He's making timing throws, reading and holding safeties, calling protections and audibles, playing with half as much talent at Kentucky as Young has had. I don't know man. My order would be Stroud, Levis, Richardson, Haener, Hooker, Young. I can bookmark this to revisit in December but I really think, in terms of NFL success, that's what it's going to look like. If Levis falls and I'm the Steelers, I may even consider picking him up in the 1st and offloading Pickett.

Was he from the recruiting violations classes of Ole Miss? Where the magically started pulling 5 stars?

I also remember Darnold getting crushed a few times waiting so long...can't wait to see Young get bear hugged by a 6'5 340 lb dude.

3.02 seconds in the NFL is an eternity to hold on to the ball. Add in his lack of arm strength and you're shrinking the field vertically and horizontally depending on the hash as well.

Will Levis is of Ivy League stock and there is a lot of "class resentment" going on right now both personally and professionally. I think Levis is a much better Pro Prospect than either of those guys.

I just think you're gambling by taking a 5'10, 185 lb QB. I know he got up to 204 for the Combine but he didn't weigh in at his Pro Day and ordered Scallops and Salad, not exactly the order of someone trying to maintain muscle mass. Hell, I'm 5'10 170 and I've been next to NFL offensive linemen...just a huge difference even between the SEC and NFL. I just think that when you go number one, you need to be as sure as possible and you're praying for an anomaly if you take Young. Doesn't have any elite traits throwing the ball or in his athleticism and at his size I really, really think that you need one or the other.

You're hoping to get an anomoly: 1. Richardson - You're banking on him doing what few others can and end up improving accuracy. Josh Allen is really one of the only guys to make such drastic improvement in this area 2. Young - You're hoping that height isn't a hinderence. You're hoping his brain can compensate for his lack of arm strength and size. You're hoping his athleticism can compensate for his lack of size. And You're hoping he can become an anomaly on very, very important aspects of the game. 3. Levis - You're hoping his awareness issues aren't something ingrained but we're rather a product of playing with young receivers, a poor line, and a mew OC in 2022. The two guys with the least number of risky attributes are Stroud and Levis, in my opinion. With Young and Richardson You're rolling the dice and hoping that one or three things can change or be negligible enough for them to be stars. I'd love Richardson at 10, I'd love Young at 10. Levis and Stroud are the only two I'd take at 1.

Close to Young traits wise? Close. More zip, better accuracy, better pocket presence, whole field reads, kills plays at rhe line.. The only thing Stroud isn't better at is scrambling and throwing off platform. Everyone recall 2020, when Zac Wilson was the talk of the town because of "Arm angles" and "ability to create". That's Bryce Young this year.

League meetings? The collection of all 32 NFL coaches? Seems they could get a sense of where things are heading this week easily. And I'm not mad about it. The more I watch Brcye, the more I think he's just a good college QB. Small, lacks elite traits of any kind physically, lacks zip on the ball, played at Bama with Metchie and Williams. Think Tua may actually have been better but I think both will be back-ups on their 2nd contract. The Dolphins would offload Tua if they could.

Jarrod Clark is your guy then. 6'4, 350, runs around a 5 second 40.

People tend to forget that about Seattle. Wagner, Chancellor, 29, Sherman, Browning Man they were stacked and it was all home grown.

I know that Tua and Wilson were knocked out cold last year and that Kyler tore an ACL. Those are the comps for Young... Probably an anomaly though, right?

Give me Nick Hampton at App State - 6'3 240 lbs, 81 inch arms, 4.6 40 OLB. Guy can drop or pass rush and would be an ideal guy to cover space or blitz on 3rd down. Jarrod Clark out of Coastal Carolina who is 6'4 340 lb Nose Tackle. Should be there on Day 3. Zach Kuntz out of ODU. Penn State Transfer TE who is like 6'8 250 lbs and runs like a receiver. Should also be there on Day 3.

With a 5% flat income tax, you'd think we could offer slightly less than teams in New York, Illinois, California, etc. I'm shocked at the number of players who take jobs in California and Washington for the same pay as a state like Florida. Dudes need financial management planners on speed dial during free agency.

We already know that McCown and Reich want Stroud. We know McCown because he basically said as much in his video breakdowns and we know Reich because it's been leaked. If we take Young it's because of Tepper. He's a business guy and Young is a little more of what you'd expect to see in the corporate world than Stroud. It makes sense that Tepper would like that. So again, I hope Tepper stays out of it and let's the experts he pays millions for make the decision. Tepper hired Rhule though so I'm not holding my breath that he knows what he's doing. If you're an owner, you hire people who are industry experts. Operations subject matter experts, and you trust their judgment. Tepper is like the guy who always wanted to own a team as a hobby and now wants to be involved in the day to day, which I get. I'd probably go out to dinner with potential draft picks as well. But I'd let the guys I pay $75 million to make the decisions.

That's the thing, what worked for Bryce in college, even in the SEC, may not translate. Russell Wilson was a great pocket passer at NC State and Wisconsin. He scrambled when he needed to but he wasn't out there running around in circles like Bryce tends to do. Kyler Murray is a baseball player and his speed and throwing motion, along with initial velocity and spin rate, show that. Young is neither of those. I'd say his comp is closer to Doug Flutie but no one wants to admit it. He's a small, good college QB on the most talented roster in college football. Put Stroud down in Alabama with Bill O'Brian and I think Stroud still throws 40 touchdowns and for 4,000 yards. I think Levis would've even put up better numbers than Bryce at Alabama. Look at what he did in 2021 at freaking Kentucky.

Well, considering the synergy we now see between coaching staff and front office, I'd say Rhule trying to control everything was the problem. I'm not sold that Tepper isn't a part of the issue as well but we will see. We know the staff wants Stroud. If we draft Young it's because of Tepper and at that point my feelings on him will be solidified. This staff is a rookie QB's Dream and Stroud has all of the tools to take advantage of it. Young, not so much.

Downs is going to end up hurt. Dude is a Microbot. Not sure about Flowers. Is there anyone who may be overlooked from a G5 that can run like Hill?