CPcavedweller

What does it matter who is GM so long as Tepper is here? He is a Jerry Jones wannabe except he wants to have a GM. Fitterer is a scapegoat at this point. I also disagree vehemently about Wilks. There is nothing in his history suggesting that hiring him would've been a mistake. He took the same team that has been losing for four years and at least got them to .500. That was before he would've had a draft and been able to build an offense in his image. It was also after firing 12 people mid-season. So give me a break. What Wilks accomplished in 2022 will, in time, be seen as a miracle because it might be the most success we see for another 5 years. Go ahead and pin this comment, save it, do something to reference in April of each year as Tepper continues making the same mistakes. This all falls on Tepper. He wanted Reich, he wanted to trade up for Number 1, he wanted Young. This is on him. Fitterer either said yes or get's fired. What would you do?

There is no forward. This team will be another one to three win team in 2024. Our best bet is hiring a defensive minded coach who appreciates an offensive approach similar to what the Lions run and what we ran in 2022. Heavy run and heavy play action with a lot of 12 and 13 personnel to help support the offensive line. Draft a burner or two on Day 3 to stretch the field and sign a bruising back. Go heavy under center with a 52/48 run/pass split, heavy play action, heavy tight end involvement, roll outs, etc. That will protect our offensive line, our receivers, and our QB. If we play good enough defense, the offense should be good for probably 22 to 28 points a game which is good enough to win in the NFL. We won't win through the draft for another three years. Gotta make it count in how you scheme.

Our offensive line could be fine, if we did what we did in 2022 under Wilks. That's why I want a defensive head coach. With such a putrid offense right now, we need to run and have play action from under center while playing an aggressive form of defense. Bring back Wilks. Right the wrong Tepper.

How is Fitterer responsible? 1. You clearly don't know the story behind the Young deal. It was pushed for by Tepper, to the point where if Fitterer didn't do exactly as Tepper wished, Fitterer would've been fired. 2. Fitterer, Reich, McCown, etc. all wanted Stroud. Tepper wanted Young after the Alabama Pro Day where he was woo'd by Nick Saban and his crony crew 3. Tepper hired Reich. Fitterer wanted to retain Wilks which is the only reason Wilks ever made it to the final interviews. 4. Fitterer isn't stupid enough to have traded up for Stroud or for Young. He comes from the Seahawk's where you trade down and make value picks on Day 3 that build the core of a team. You are clueless as to what's gone on. I'd say let Fitterer do the job you hired him to do. Go on a permanent vacation Tepper.

TEPPER HIRED THE MAN. Fitterer didn't hire Reich. Fitterer wanted Wilks. Fitterer wanted Stroud. Tepper wanted Reich. Tepper wanted Young.

"Take into account draft capital and the Panthers have the bleakest future prospects of any NFL team by a wide margin. They are the worst team -- and offense -- in the league. How does the offense improve when there's a massive dearth in terms of pass protection and a complete void in terms of vertical weapons for the passing game. Bryce Young is averaging 5.4 yards per pass attempt. The Panthers have scored more than 14 points in four games this year and in every single instance it required garbage time." This one is easy. You improve by doing what we did in 2022. You run from under center, you run play action, you run the roll out game, you run crossers, verts, screens to tight ends, all from under center. You don't go shotgun, not because it won't work, but because you have to protect your line. What got Reich fired? He saw the teams weakness and instead of guarding that "sector of battle" by adding reinforcements, he effectively chose to abandon it for the enemy to conquer by running 4 and 5 receiver empty sets. He chose to run from under center, then pass out of the shotgun, creating predictability that the enemy could read. You reinforce your weakness in war, and in football. You do that by either adding personnel, or by changing tactics to protect it. Frank exposed it, and that's why he is gone. Ironically enough, it's why Wilks should've been retained. He saw all of our weaknesses last year and quite literally blanketed them to the point where they very nearly became strengths, including the offensive line. I know that no one is going to read this, not least of which is anyone important, so I expect the same poo to keep happening. Keep hiring poor people and firing the best people. It's the Tepper way.

Our offensive line was Top 10 last year. What is terrible is our offensive scheme. We were good last year once the adjustment period under Wilks was over and guys bought in. Our play was so good in fact, that Tepper went the complete opposite direction and pushed for a shotgun only QB with a failed offensive minded head coach. TEPPER THE TERRIBLE (for all the wrong reasons).

Too far gone this year. Save Cap Space, suck for draft picks next year. Picking up expensive pieces in an already lost season is pointless. Our only goal in winning is to keep the Bears from getting the 1st and 2nd picks in the draft next year. God Tepper is stupid.

Realistically, that's possible. Milroe is now playing better than Bryce was playing. Is he going Number One overall? No. Bryce and Mac Daddy Jones will both ruin this. For either of them to have success it'll take damn near lottery odds of hiring the right coach and having Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill type guys fall in your lap. The joke is that the Bears will have two top three picks and they already have a QB.

We had a Top 10 run and pass blocking line under Wilks with mostly the same players on the line now. This isn't the line. This is coaching. This is offensive philosophy. This, my friends, is Tepper Ball. Somehow, under Wilks, we switched philosophies mid-season to the tune of a 300 yard rushing game and Sam, sans the Saints game, playing like a Top 10 QB. We've regressed this much and it's not on the players. It's coaching. Put the blame where it lies. Tepper hired Reich. Tepper forced the trade up for a QB. Tepper forced us to draft Young. Tepper shut down the hiring of Steve Wilks, a Charlotte native who the team fought tooth and nail for. Don't blame Bryce, he was drafted about 15 spots too high. Don't blame Fitterer, had he quit, the same events would have transpired. Blame Tepper. Tepper Ball Bros! Someone, go make a T-Shirt with Tepper wearing a paper bag, while he's wearing the t-shirt of him wearing a paper bag. I'll buy it and promote it for you.

You don't know that they would've taken Bryce. They may have taken Richardson. 1. Stroud 2. Richardson 3. Levis 4. Hooker 5. DTR 6. Young If Bryce had gone anywhere other than Alabama, this would've been the draft order.

Yeah. We all, and by we all I mean reasonable people, knew the assignment. The others were Alabama fanboys. Facts dictate that you don't trade up to the top of the first round for a QB because as important as QB is, the price is too steep and odds are that you'll miss. I hope Tepper is happy. This is on him. It's not Fitterer. It's not Reich. It's squarely on Tepper. Unless he fires himself, this will not get better.

Ultimate Processor! Like a quantum computer! Using dial up internet service. What a joke this franchise has become under Tepper. People hated Richardson because he was a billionaire. This is a case of the devil you know versus the devil you don't.

Bryce can't play under center. This is a failure from ownership to the coaching staff. I won't even blame Fitterer because it's become apparent that Tepper organized the trade, pushed to draft Young, and hired Reich. Young is short. You can't run exclusively out of the shotgun in the NFL and win. That is, in part, Bryce's fault. No need to feel bad for him he's such a hyper processor and so much like Patrick Mahomes or Chris Paul that he should be able to dish the rock to anyone from any Arm angle, right? SEC! SEC! Just like the NFL, I hears. Morons.

Fitterer isn't the issue. Tepper hired Reich, Tepper wanted to trade up for Young. None of this is on Fitterer.

What's their excuse for Stroud going under center? Fact is that Bryce is too short. It's why Kyler was run out of the shotgun a lot under Kliff. Either way, the current offense isn't going to fool anyone. It wouldn't work in college and it won't work in the NFL, talent levels equal.

The run game concepts and pass game concepts make no sense to anyone. You pass to run or run to pass but, in the Panthers case, it's almost like you run two different offensive philosophies that do not compliment each other. Also, you can't run 30 empty sets a game with a rookie QB. Get under center, run the ball, run play action and get him out of the pocket. If you can't do that, Tepper should find someone who can. Which ironically we had last year but who am I?

These are all things I saw in watching Bryce and I watch a ton of College Football. App State's QB Joey Aguilar makes faster decisions than Bryce does and he's in his first year out of JuCo. I'll say it once, I'll say it ten times more, if Bryce Young went to Kentucky and Levis was at Alabama, Young would've been a 4th round pick and Levis would've gone number one or two.

Which is why it's better to EARN the 1st or 2nd pick and not trade for it.

And the Vikings just keep winning which says a helluva lot about their organization. No Jefferson, no Cousins, no problem? How many teams could lose a Top 3 receiver and probably a Top 13 QB and continue to win? O'Connell will get his respect this year.

Yeah. I guess so, right? He's literally been one of the lone bright spots on the team when he does get a chance to return.

If we had traded Burns to the Rams we'd have a Top 10 pick this year. Had we done that trade and not traded up for Bryce, we may have been in a position to have two Top 10 picks in one of the deeper QB classes in years. Tepper is a moron who went QB fishing and has been QB fishing since 2019. It's killed the program.

Compared to what? At this point, I don't know what purpose winning serves. I also don't see how there can be any mid-season philosophical change short of going to an offensive style similar to what the Lions run, which is what we did last year. As I've said many times. We need to be under center, we need to go play action heavy under center, and we need to throw from under center. The entire offense is run out of the shotgun right now and it's literally terrible. What is the purpose of running from a single back formation on 1st down, only to go shotgun on 2nd and 3rd down? It's so predictable it's hard to watch.

Second HC he's fired in two seasons with the team. He's now fired four total coaches in 4 years of ownership. Dude is a clown show.

Other guy. Don't need "Puff" Daddy as the owner of the team I root for. Give me public ownership like the Packers or something.